Guess Which Governor Owes Back Taxes?

@anniepa (27238)
United States
February 20, 2009 1:31am CST
Hmmm...I'm sure many of you here are thinking it HAS to be a Democrat because good, law-abiding Republicans ALWAYS pay their taxes and they'd certainly never fail to report something as income that's supposed to be reported, right? http://www.freep.com/article/20090218/NEWS15/90218040/1285/NEWS15/Sarah+Palin+to+pay+back+taxes+ "Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska must pay income taxes on thousands of dollars in expense money she received while living at her Wasilla home, under a new determination by state officials. The governor’s office wouldn’t say this week how much she owes in back taxes for meal money, or whether she intends to continue to receive the per diem allowance. As of December, she was still charging the state for meals and incidentals. “The amount of taxes owed is a private matter,” Sharon Leighow, Palin’s spokeswoman, said in an e-mail. “If the governor collects future per diem, those documents would be a matter of public record.”" (End of excerpt) Reportedly she charged the taxpayers of Alaska for everything she did while staying at her own home such as speaking on the phone with former Senator Elizabeth Dole, having her picture taken with a basketball team and giving an interview to a Fox News show. Any comments? Annie
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@irisheyes (4373)
• United States
20 Feb 09
I think that this tax thing is a worm that will turn many times. If I were a politician, I'd be very wary of nabbing anyone in the opposition for taxes. Guess that's one of the reasons I'd never make a good politico. I'm just not enough of a hypocrite.
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@Taskr36 (13925)
• United States
20 Feb 09
I don't think it's hypocrisy though when she goes out of her way to make sure she's paying her taxes. This review was done at her own request, not by someone else.
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@irisheyes (4373)
• United States
21 Feb 09
I wasn't accusing her of hyprocrisy. I was saying there is a lot of hypocrisy in politics and they should watch who they accuse of not paying taxes. Read it again and see if you can get the gist a little better..
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@uath13 (8207)
• United States
20 Feb 09
Where's the [ beat your head against the desk ] emote when you need it? Alaska isn't far enough for this lady to go away... Somebody launch her into orbit! Better yet...lets give her the honor of being the first woman to set foot on the sun.
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@anniepa (27238)
• United States
20 Feb 09
Then she'll really be HOT...lol! Annie
@murderistic (2280)
• United States
20 Feb 09
She charged 17,000 for meals? That's more than I make in a year!
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@Taskr36 (13925)
• United States
20 Feb 09
Sheesh, sounds like you need a new job. It actually said meals and incidentals. It breaks down to roughly $160 a week when spread out over 2 years. It does sound a bit high, but it's not too bad when you consider that Obama is eating steaks that cost $125 a piece on the taxpayer's dime.
@rodney850 (2145)
• United States
20 Feb 09
On the taxpayers dime AND tax free!
@iriscot (1290)
• United States
20 Feb 09
Where did you get the information that Obama was spending $125 a piece on steaks? I'm from Illinois and we've had two crooks in a row as Governors. Now Blago's wife is in trouble. Us Southern Illinoisans would like to see Cook County named Cook County and get it to hell out of Illinois? Oh yes, I spent two winters in Fairbanks when I was in service and there wasn't any sunshine for about a week as I can recall. I don't blame her for buying a tanning bed, it's cold up there!
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@iriscot (1290)
• United States
20 Feb 09
Annie, I knew all of the die hard repubs on this board would jump on this one and try to protect poor Sarah. I think you opened a can of worms and they are all crawling out.
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@irishidid (8714)
• United States
20 Feb 09
I have yet to read anyone here say she shouldn't have to pay taxes if she owes them. I get the impression that no one if defending her on this, but let's be realistic and make sure we don't forget there are a number of politicians who owe back taxes. Most of them have a lame excuse but Annie makes no mention of them. Why not? You only get one guess.
@anniepa (27238)
• United States
20 Feb 09
Thanks to all of you for your responses. Irishidid, I did say in an earlier comment to you that all politicians or anyone else who owes back taxes should pay up! I'm not giving anyone a pass here and I even gave Palin credit where it's due for coming forward about this herself. Annie
@irishidid (8714)
• United States
20 Feb 09
I know you did annie. I'm just amazed at anything said about Palin is construed by some as her trying to call attention to herself. This simply is not true. There are much worse out there than Palin.
@xfahctor (14131)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
20 Feb 09
“At the Governor’s request, we reviewed the situation to determine whether we were in full compliance with the pertinent Internal Revenue Service regulations,” Kreitzer wrote. “As a result of this review, we determined that per diem needs to be treated as income, requiring a revision of W-2 forms for any affected employees.” At least she didn't try to weasle out of it like a few others. But if she owes, she owes and needs to pay up, though it looks like she is attempting to do so of her own accord. That being said. Annie, your a smart (if not ocd) person. When the h-e-double hocky sticks are you going to get your head out of the Democrat/Republican sand? they're the same damnn party
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@anniepa (27238)
• United States
20 Feb 09
I agree, she deserves credit for coming forward on her own accord and paying up. As for the parties, X, they both have their faults, I guess you know which one I think has more faults, but they're not the same party! A good example of their differences would be one party believes extending unemployment benefits is stimulative to the economy and one believes it's not and that limiting bonuses for Wall Street bankers hurts the taxpayers. That's oversimplifying, I realize that, but it's a good example of the differences in their priorities. Annie
@xfahctor (14131)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
20 Feb 09
The difference is still small potatos in the larger scheme of things annie, and if we are going to survive these times as a people, we need to move past that kind of ideology. There are huge differences between a tiger and a king cobra and the way they kill people, but each is as deadly as the other. Honestly, as things devolve in this country, and it is inevitable it will, do you honestly think the powers that be are going to give a rats asss what letter you have in front of your name? Do you think they care now? they don't care they're all in it with the same purpose.
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@irishidid (8714)
• United States
20 Feb 09
If she owes taxes she should pay them. All those politicians who owe taxes should pay them. Have any of the others paid theirs? Which one of them will step up to the plate first and do the right thing? Charlie Rangel is still playing the clueless act. And what exactly prompted them to check out Sarah Palin? Anyone else I'd shrug it off but the way they've gone after her reminds me of how the republicans went after Clinton to find every piece of dirt they could.
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@anniepa (27238)
• United States
20 Feb 09
It doesn't appear that anyone checked her out, it was done by the state at her request: "“Last fall we raised questions about longstanding practices within the Department of Administration regarding tax treatment of per diem payments,” Kreitzer wrote in an exchange of e-mails over the past few days with the Anchorage Daily News. “At the Governor’s request, we reviewed the situation to determine whether we were in full compliance with the pertinent Internal Revenue Service regulations,” Kreitzer wrote. “As a result of this review, we determined that per diem needs to be treated as income, requiring a revision of W-2 forms for any affected employees.” " I agree that all politicians who owe back taxes should pay up! I don't care what party they're in or how "important" they are, if you or I owe they want their money from the little bit we have, right? However, I also feel that considering how complicated the tax laws are and how they're constantly changing added to the fact that politicians and former politicians and other government officials have especially complicated expenses to sort through IF a mistake is made, something is "overlooked" or "underpaid" they should be given ONE opportunity to make it right and pay up or arrange to do so without being crucified. If they screw up again or try to lie their way out of it, all bets are off. Annie
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@Taskr36 (13925)
• United States
21 Feb 09
"IF a mistake is made, something is "overlooked" or "underpaid" they should be given ONE opportunity to make it right and pay up or arrange to do so without being crucified. If they screw up again or try to lie their way out of it, all bets are off." I agree with this which is why I didn't understand the mess with Killefer much. Geithner however was still evading taxes from 2001, which he was told about in 2006 if I remember correctly, when he got nominated. Anyone can miss something, even I did once, but an honest person pays right away instead of waiting until being nominated for a cabinet post.
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• United States
21 Feb 09
Kansas just stopped giving back taxes.
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@anniepa (27238)
• United States
21 Feb 09
I'm sorry but I don't understand what you mean. Do you mean Kansas isn't sending tax refunds because they're out of money like California is or was? Annie
@iriscot (1290)
• United States
20 Feb 09
What would you expect of her, she was too busy getting all of the perks that she could grab, a governor has to pay taxes? Not me I'm Sarah Palin. I looks like several of the republican governors have decided to take their share of the stimulus package after all. She'll probably follow suit.
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@Taskr36 (13925)
• United States
20 Feb 09
It's a pity you're too blind and ignorant to actually read the article and see that Sarah Palin herself initiated a review to see if she had to pay taxes on per diems. If you've ever recieved per diems you'd know that they aren't typically taxed. Again, if you'd read the article you might have been able to post without making an a$$ of yourself.
• United States
20 Feb 09
Well comparing they just changed her W-2's to reflect her new income amount sure she owes back taxes on that. She better pay them too. What is wrong with the gov. mansion? They pay her this perdiam because she chooses to live in her own house instead of the gov. mansion. That is her choice of course. But I am just wondering. IF the she lived in the mansion the tax payers would be paying for the everything(meals, electrity, etc) and she woud not see a bill for anything. But because she has decided to live in her own house during her terms as gov. she gets a per diam to make up for what is not covered by living at home. Her house is basically the gov. mansion now. although I have heard it is not a mansion. So she works there a lot. Has she ever said why she wants to live at home instead? Maybe it was to keep things more normal for the kids or something. Alaska is now considering that money income and that is why she has to pay taxes on it. But I am a little puzzled about that. Would it have been income if she had lived in the mansion and the money would have been paid by the state directly to those things? I do not think it would. But I have never been gov. I really do not know. I do think it should be a matter of public record. No matter who it is. I am still wondering why we are paying for Pelosi't trip to Italy and why we are also paying for her guests (Martin Luther King's Children). All of them are very rich. This country is broke. Can't they pay for their own vacations?
@Taskr36 (13925)
• United States
20 Feb 09
"IF the she lived in the mansion the tax payers would be paying for the everything(meals, electrity, etc) and she woud not see a bill for anything." That is correct and that is the argument I've used in the past to defend her billing taxpayers for her meals. She is cooking them at home and saving taxpayers money by not using the gourmet chef that was being paid for by taxpayer dollars. I'm not sure why she pays taxes on it this way, yet she wouldn't be paying taxes on it if she'd done it all at the governor's mansion.
• United States
20 Feb 09
exactly. Instead of living in a mansion with servants paid for by the people of Alaska she is living at home and saving them a ton of money. So I do not see why should have to claim it as income.
@Taskr36 (13925)
• United States
20 Feb 09
I just don't understand the circumstances that lead to per diems being taxed. When I worked for Universal Studios I would get per diems anytime I was away on company business. Those were never taxed. The same goes for the per diems I've received when attending conferences as a librarian. Either way I think the fact that SHE initiated the review shows that she is being honest and doing her best to follow the appropriate laws unlike Daschle and Geithner who spent YEARS evading taxes and would have continued their behavior had they not been nominated by Obama.
@Taskr36 (13925)
• United States
20 Feb 09
“At the Governor’s request, we reviewed the situation to determine whether we were in full compliance with the pertinent Internal Revenue Service regulations,” Kreitzer wrote. “As a result of this review, we determined that per diem needs to be treated as income, requiring a revision of W-2 forms for any affected employees.” Since this was done at her request it is CLEARLY not tax evasion like that committed by Geithner and Daschle. So long as she pays her taxes immediately, and I'm sure she will, there will be no problem. To me this appears to be her working hard to make sure everything is on the up and up. I'm quite proud of her going out of her way to make sure she is paying her taxes properly. "Under IRS guidelines, legislators receive tax-free payments to help with living expenses while in Juneau for the legislative session — if their home is at least 50 miles away, Varni said." As you can see by this, there is ample reason for her to believe that the payments would be tax free. She was likely unaware that she had to be within 50 miles of Juneau which is why it's good that she reviewed the situation. The examples you used like talking with former Senator Dole, photo ops, and giving interviews could easily be considered business expenses. I'm sure other governors and senators bill taxpayers for the same thing. Hey Sen. Sherrod billed the taxpayers something like $300,000 to fly on Airforce One so he could hurry and sign a bill he hadn't read.
@rodney850 (2145)
• United States
20 Feb 09
Taskr, Come on! You know this is just an Obama supporter suffering from the "sour grapes" syndrome! She supports a president who was never vetted properly for the job he now holds and consequently he hasn't a clue of how to select his staff and cabinate. He hasn't quite grasped the fact that the MSM is only in love with him, not everyone else in the world!