Obama to voters: Armed KKK can now stand in front of polling locations!

@Taskr36 (13963)
United States
July 18, 2009 9:31am CST
Well I guess that message should come across loud and clear. Racist organizations like the KKK can now put their people in front of polling places carrying weapons and shouting racial slurs such as "You're about to be ruled by the white man n****r", and that's just fine. The left has nodded their agreement without a single objection. Republicans have objected, but Obama and Eric Holder have made it clear, "There will be NO penalties for armed KKK harrassing voters on election day". Even if the courts find guilt in such a case, the Obama Administration will pardon any KKK member found guilty. Congratulations to all Obama supporters. You got what you wanted. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/may/29/protecting-black-panthers/ http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/05/29/deseno_voter_new_black_panthers/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGbKHyGuHU&feature=player_embedded
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• United States
18 Jul 09
Taskr, I watched the video, and the guys didn't even intimidate the white guy standing there. It really looked to me more like the guy who was recording this was trying to make it look worse than it was. I don't agree with ANY racist groups, but I also believe in the constitution, and that gives them the right to assemble. I noticed that the links you provided didn't give any explanation of why Obama, or Holder dropped the charges. I would like the hear the other side before taking a blog, and two right wing republican puppets organizations at their word.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
18 Jul 09
You won't hear the other side because both Obama and Holder have refused to comment on it. Does this mean you'd be ok with the KKK standing in front of a polling place with weapons shouting "You're about to be ruled by the white man n****r"?
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
18 Jul 09
Also you might want to read the article, it does include the official response from the DOJ. "The explanation for moving to dismiss the case is shocking. According to the Department of Justice: "These same Defendants have made no appearance and have filed no pleadings with the Court. Nor have they otherwise raised any other defenses to this action. Therefore, the United States has the right ... to dismiss voluntarily this action against the Defendants." In other words, because the defendants haven't tried to defend themselves, the Justice Department won't punish them. By that logic, if a murderer doesn't respond to the charges, he should be let free. That's crazy. "
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• United States
18 Jul 09
Taskr, like I said in my post, I will wait to hear from the administration before I will believe a blog, and two Rupert Murdock tabloids. I would like to get the facts on this before I jump off a cliff.
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
18 Jul 09
This is a video of an interview with the man who called the police. I watched this unfold on television on election day. This man did have the black panthers try to block the doors to keep him from entering the polling place. He called the police as he realized this was an attempt at intimidation. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX4dcvIYk9A&feature=related I have no idea why anyone would feel that this is acceptable, whether they are right wing, left wing or some independent voter intending to write in his mailman's name on the ballot. It's simply intimidation, regardless of who does it. Now, if the Black Panthers or the KKK or the Daughters of the Revolution want to stand across the street carrying protest signs, they have every right to do so under the Constitution. They may peaceably assemble and exercise free speech. But it's illegal to try to stop a voter from exercising his right to vote through an implied threat of violence.
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
5 Aug 09
The video of the Black Panthers standing in front of the polling place, brandishing a nightstick was not shot by Fox News or any employee of Fox. It was, in fact, a university student who had a cellphone and asked them why they were there. You shouldn't be asking why this was shown on Fox News, you should ask why it wasn't reported on the other news networks. If it didn't happen and the fellow didn't have a nightstick, then why did the police come and make him leave? Why were charges brought? Why were the charges proved but mysteriously dropped against the wishes of the attorneys handling the prosecution? Why were they able to get an injunction against this guy that says he's not allowed at polling places until November 2012 (just in time for the next election involving a presidential race)? If it didn't happen, why would a court grant such an injunction? It happened. It was illegal. It was intimidating. It's been proved. You're refusing to believe reality and clinging to some kind of bias to form an opinion.
• United States
5 Aug 09
Firstly, Fox News has a reputation for not telling the hole truth friends. Citing them, in truth makes me want to throw out any one who brings them up's arguments. They are not credible as a source and and even still I seen the video it is not credible either. Sorry guys, I just don't see any clear proof here. I don't know why they where there[not the true reason any way]. And I think that if any one can sit and argue about this is silly. A true patriot of freedom promotes freedom and doesn't act on anger or violence.
@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
18 Jul 09
There are two sets of standards in America. White folks cannot get away with the same things that blacks can. If that had been KKK members instead of the New Black Panthers, they would be in jail right now... if they hadn't been already killed right on the spot. If we were truly a nation of equality, then your premise would be correct. I say, that come next election, any attempt at voter intimidation should be met with blind unreasoning violence. Since we are no longer a nation of laws, then we must revert to the ultimate law of survival. Cry Havoc... and cut loose the dogs of war....
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
18 Jul 09
This is for debater: This video is an interview with the man who called the police. They tried to block his way when he went to enter the polling place. I don't think anyone spun this. If you feel you can defend anyone trying to prevent voters from casting their ballots, then you live in the wrong country. Try Iran. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX4dcvIYk9A&feature=related One of the men was removed by the police- the guy with the nightstick. The other could not be removed because he was an official poll watcher.
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
18 Jul 09
Oops, Sorry Destiny, I posted that in the wrong place. Should be under thegreatdebater's comment thread/ I agree with you, btw. Voter intimidation cannot be allowed.
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@Maggiepie (7816)
• United States
18 Jul 09
[b]Hey Taskr...I see the usual LATOBs maroons are here (except maybe for anniepa...don't see her. Yet...). Nlife or whoever's new to me. What a boring jerk. If someone is going to enter a debate, they should give legitimate rebuttals. Not surprised Nlife doesn't know how. He's what is known here 'bouts as an "O-hole." I think you can figure that one out.... Keep up the good work. As more & more catch on to what a lying creep that poser in the Oval Office is, the more will finally admit they goofed. Majorly. * Lips Attached To Obama's Butt Maggiepie "WHERE'S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?"[/b]
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@N4life (851)
• United States
18 Jul 09
Thank You
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
19 Jul 09
N4life, I think you have a good reason to report this member for abuse. Nobody has the right to call someone else here names. I'm also not too happy about having my name brought up in a discussion to which I've yet to respond while also being called a name. Taskr, you and other decent members from the right who question why some of us on the left hesitate to give our opinions, here's why. Some people don't like to subject themselves to the ignorance displayed by some of your "followers". Annie
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
18 Jul 09
No way on earth they would allow that. They would be extremely quick to punish, double standard be damned. They would make an example of the KKK members. Race baiters, hangers on, and those with that extra dosage of white guilt would instantly cite how it's "different" when the KKK does it, because the KKK has a violent history and those "other" militants were justified because the white man in America has impeded the black man's progress. Maureen Dowd would walk away with the PP for her brilliant (pukes a lil bit) retrospective look at the Klan and how its numbers, though not nearly as large as yesteryear, are still enough to adversely impact minorities in society with bullying tactics and out and out violence. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson would be like the prophets -- the ones who knew America had never changed. They would lead America's children on mass marches, demanding justice, not from the KKK members responsible, but from an oppressive white America as a whole. Michael Eric Dyson would be the new society czar, since he knew all along that widespread racism in America has only been getting worse since the end of slavery and the CRM, and his brilliant (pukes a lil bit) teaching of that "knowledge" to the impressionable minds at Georgetown U. Every single white person who didn't blindly follow Obama without question would be depicted a racist by the MSN and the admin., being called KKK supporters and worse. Affirmative action would kick into mega overdrive, with whites being blatantly and unremorsefully fired from their positions in order to inject a 50/50-or-better diversity into the workplace.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
18 Jul 09
Well I can't find a single liberal on mylot who opposes voter intimidation. As you can see some find it to be AMUSING that these guys did what they did. I guess this must be a new platform for the left. Weapons and racial slurs are perfectly acceptable at polling places for them.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
18 Jul 09
I will amend my statement to say that at least Jodilynn had the integrity to acknowledge that what happened was wrong. I'm just frightened that so many others don't care and find voter intimidation amusing.
• United States
18 Jul 09
I do not know of nor have I ever even heard of a SINGLE liberal willing to admit they're wrong. I don't know nary a liberal that won't stand beside their guy (or gal), make excuses, blame, blame, and blame some more, and try to twist it back around to be the right's fault, no matter the situation. And there is really no platform for the left that I can see -- at least not a solid one. From what I can tell, being a liberal is just about opposing anything that can be considered tradition and latching onto ideas that you didn't think of but somehow think you can improve with someone else's money and-or hard work. Oh, and finally getting to act like the azzhole you always wanted to be and have people back you up for it. Ah, to be popular. These crazy liberals today really make it hard for a good democrat to function. :-)
@JodiLynn (1417)
• United States
18 Jul 09
I live just outside of Philadelphia, that's where we get our news from and this was HEAVILY covered here. As most of you know I am a liberal thinker (some may dispute that the thinker part, but I don't mind :) & an Obama supporter. This, however, is indisputably wrong! ANY intimidation of voters is wrong, right or left. I am/or will be disappointed if this ends with one measly "Don't come within 100 yards of a polling place with a weapon". that just will not do...
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
18 Jul 09
Thank you Jodi. I was really starting to get worried there. I get the distinct impression from some people that they think voter intimidation is ok so long as the voters being intimidated are from the "other" party. We should NEVER allow this to happen and violators like these thugs should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. The thing that disturbed me most is that they were found guilty and then the charges were dismissed. If they had managed to win a court case I'd just have to tolerate our justice system's failure to win a case, but this was a deliberate action by the Obama administration and one they should have to answer for.
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@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
20 Jul 09
Let us remember equal protection under the law. If the Black Panthers can get away with this then so to could the KKK.
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
19 Jul 09
Taskr, I'm totally opposed to voter intimidation by anyone of or by any race or groups or whatever. I'm against racism, regardless of who is guilty of it. I'm not pleased by what I know of this particular case so far but I admit to not being well-versed in it because I've had other things going on recently and I haven't heard much about it or paid much attention to it. Yes, I'm a liberal and yes I support Obama but I don't have my head up his butt or any of the other crude things another poster here said. If there's ever been anyone who has agree with any politician 100% of the time on 100% of the issues I'd like to meet that person but my guess would be that person is a blind follower of whomever it is they worship. Annie
@goldeneagle (6745)
• United States
18 Jul 09
The KKK is nothing to worry about. The fact that Obama is president is a strong testimony to the fact that the KKK is a joke...
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
18 Jul 09
Of course they're a joke. So are the black panthers. However, any organized group standing in front of a polling place with weapons is in violation of the voter's rights act and should be prosecuted appropriately. In this case, they were prosecuted, found guilty, and then Obama and Eric Holder dismissed the charges.
• United States
20 Jul 09
If the KKK was worth a crap, Obama would have never lived to see election day. Just the fact that Obama is still alive tells you how effective the KKK really is...
@N4life (851)
• United States
18 Jul 09
The sky is falling... Or wait that is just the GOP!
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
18 Jul 09
Nice to see you worked your way up to two syllable words. Now, are you capable of reading the thread and responding? the Obama Administration thinks it's ok for the KKK to stand in front of polling places with weapons shouting racial slurs at black people. Do you agree with Obama?
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@N4life (851)
• United States
18 Jul 09
I don't know all the facts, and do not have the time to dig up all of them for every consipiracy right wingers bring up here. I just find it amusing. Obama is not perfect, it is just funny how EVERYTHING he does is wrong according to most here. I gave Bush more credit than that. It is just getting old, Palin does no wrong, yet everyone who voted for Obama drank the kool-aid..whatever.
@N4life (851)
• United States
18 Jul 09
Oh and I am more than sure if it was a coveted right winger decision it would be hailed here as a great wind for the American people and the Constitution.
• United States
6 Aug 09
I do want to stand in front of a polling place brandishing a weapon and throw out insults. The problem is I'm not a member of a hate group. Do you think 0bama and Holder are saying I have to join a hate group before I go to the polling place? There are so many and so little time before the next election. Maybe the DHS will mark the Libertarian Party as racists... then I should be good to go. You gotta love this whole precedence setting thing, because now I can go 'well, that guy didn't get in trouble. why are you harassing me?'