Agenda Hijackers: How do you feel about them.

Hi jillhill, you got hijacked. It really was of no importance whatsover my dear whatever it was you were talking about, the issue is whales and the only topic of conversation I wish to discuss in this discussion about animal rights and billboards is whales. Other animals have less rights than whales and you must agree with me or you are completely stupid blah blah blah. Isn't it just so irritating. And the big question, why didn't she just trot of quietly and set up her own discussions about whales. There's so many options after all, rights for whales, whales in Wales, heard about the wailing whale, recipes using whale. Join in in the new way of defending our corner jillhill, a simple answer to the whaler [em]yawn

Judith no one could possily object to a little agenda hijacking from you, you haven't been indoctrinated enough. Though I do know you can get a little possesive about your potaotes but I understand how much they mean to you, and could fully understand your righteous takeover of a mashed potato discussion to call everyone potato murderers

oh, how on earth do i get rights for chickens into this box? whales - whaling - fishing - fish and chips - chicken and chips - chickens! good to see this brought up again jillhill....now for some more details [goes on at great length]

hahha or a good ole probably would have done the job too!

Most excellent suggestion sissygrl, I think that's even more fitting than a blank, I'll just try that out for size. It's perfect, that's my agenda hijackers taken care of in future.

Hi Sissygrl, running into you all over the place today. I think the people we speak of are probably a bit of a one track pony with one message to spread to the world but by someone preaching vegetarinism to the extent of calling all meat eaters stupid and lacking in intelligence is too much, I wasn't in the mood to be converted, or to have to justify myself. I think a big blank space amongst the other responses and comments should just about cover it nicely.

No, I won't. You blow.

Hi dawnald, I most definitely wasn't speaking about people coming in off topic or for banter and fun, but rather with the indoctrinated opinion which they believe must be forced on everyone else until we all capitulise. I'm just going to leave a blank hole there in future.

hmmn. blow - wind - weather - feather - chickens!

My oppinion is that both of the types should take thier feedback elsewhere, and be more creative and start their own discussions to maintain, as they obviously are eager to do it for others. Luckily i have not yet experienced any of them, but unfortuately almost turned into a second version of hijacker, by responding way to much to other peoples responses as if i where the topic starter. (I still feel bad about it, and the more often i take a look at the discussion the more i can see how close it was to going real wrong there, Thanks Thea for saving my butt and enlighten the MyLot for me) Hi downwindz, I've put a note in Mikes box about the joke. And a tip. I actually would only use the term agenda hijacker, which I made up, for the sort of scenarios in the responses here, and I have no time for it, as I am not going to pretend an interest in an agenda I have no interest in, and if I was interested would either make a disc about it or find one already made - by a person who can converse rationally on the subject, rather than someone conducting a soap box speil. I no longer want to see that in my discussions and people are sick of it as it causes bad feelings. One of the responders here confronted someone on doing this in an unrelated discussion and was told that the person had set up a discussion about this but had minimal response, presumably because she was not rational. The hi jacking that you speak of about what you did yesterday you said you did not know this would offend but now you see how it can. Certainly a lot of responders want to discuss something with me and I do not like someone responding for me as I have my own opinions, neither do I want to see every box filled with someone elses opinions as that person should be making their own discussions. Not everyone will feel this way and there are many many discussions out there which are old where there are many responses but not a word from the topic opener. The responses are usually to easy questions to get pay out quickly at the end of the month. But in my opinion when I start a topic it is my topic to run, not to hand over to someone else unless I ask them to. Banter is a different thing entirely, but it needs to be kept short and sweet. As i didn't like what you were doing at all I mailed and requested you to stop which I thought you'd done until you then returned later so obviously I was confused. But really if you want to deal with the responses you have to start your own discussion. Also quantity of responses is not the key for me but quality where a good dialogue is made, not with someone popping up in the middle with something irrelevant to the conversation taking place. So I did not like what you did but have a different name to it than hijacking. But you do say now you can understand how it looks bad so fair enough but you still seemed to have issue when you spoke on your own discussion about someone not wanting your quality comments. For me one quality comment in its own box will suffice. It's nothing about rules but more about common courtesy. Anyway hope that answers that for you.

If Mike sees this stop laughing, I know I once again forgot to delete the copy and paste but it is proof that I can do it.

Now i better clear up a few things in regarding to my opinions about Hijackers. I believe there is two types of hijackers, the ones who go in and turn the subjects in various ways, and those that actually takes over the whole discussion. My oppinion is that both of the types should take thier feedback elsewhere, and be more creative and start their own discussions to maintain, as they obviously are eager to do it for others. Luckily i have not yet experienced any of them, but unfortuately almost turned into a second version of hijacker, by responding way to much to other peoples responses as if i where the topic starter. (I still feel bad about it, and the more often i take a look at the discussion the more i can see how close it was to going real wrong there, Thanks Thea for saving my butt and enlighten the MyLot for me)

Thanks Judith I needed a good laugh, hope I don't get hijacked on this one by someone with an agenda other than potatoes. You were going to start this one indeed, I've been meaning to do it ever since the snail incident as well you know. You forgot to mention the enhanced flavour by adding shake and vac

And, why exactly should potatoes have to die?

Hi sunny, the blue rabbit seems to have moved on from her obsessive potato agenda to one about chickens. Please give her no more ideas about mosquitos or that rabbit will be round throwing all my protection away. But just what I'm talking about see, people keep harping on about rights for chickens whereever they can. At least the rabbit hijacker changes her mind every day. How can they be snobs if they've only got one subject of conversation? Possibly. I think this is an execllent suggestion though with them adopting Jainism, at least their mouths would be covered, the only problem is that wouldn't stop them typing. Just have to say Sunny, really really original masculine avatar

hijack. again. great idea there - my next section is called rights for mosquitoes. now lets try and squeeze chicken lib in here too. snobs - toffs - toffee - sweets - food - chicken - chickens! it's amazing how many people are bringing up the topic of cruelty to chickens in here [rambles on in a dull yet obsessive manner for a few pages]

hey....you missed roaches....anything against them??

Good morning Hatley, I'm meant to be cleaning but it's so much more pleasant chatting to you. Have you tried the ear plugs I suggested yet? This is interesting actually that so far not one person has spoken up in favour of these agenda hijackers. Just had a perfect example above of Jillhill being lectured about whales on a discussion not about whales. There's a world of difference between digressing off topic into interesting areas and being forced off topic by someone elses agenda. So just to go off topic here dear Hatley as you are a woman of great sense, how would you feel if you put up a discussion, left it for a bit as had something to do, and came back to find someone had responded on your behalf, someone you'd never even come across before? Just curious as that was a new one on me. Anyway back to the hijackers, I'm now promoting the simple solution to deal with them which they might understand as there's no point at all in having a different view to them as it's not allowed. The solution is inserted in their box.

I hope u get your tooth fixed soon. I am not too good at waiting on things or people. Maybe it want be too much longer. yes, every discussion she would write a response & then drop her 2 cents worth in on other people's response. I am probably not describing it too well.

Nonsense Aunty, as always you explain yourself with total clarity, I personally always welcome your responses as a sign of sanity in the world.

Hi Aunty, hope you're well today. I'm still waiting to hear when the tooth will be ready and this gap is getting old fast. When you speak of what aggravated you did you mean like in all the boxes. It's okay if it's a friend and it's banter but otherwise I know exactly what you mean Seems to me though that there are some pretty obsessed people out there with only one thing on their mind so maybe they should be encouraged to set up their own charity to keep them out of other peoples discussions.

it was me. possibly. i was poking around in that discussion. and i think you'll find you left out this at the start of your iq score: - actually though i think it would be cruel to have a pet cat or dog and try to feed it vegetarian food - i've heard of this being done and i think it's not on at all. i'm a trolling vegetarian and when i had a cat he got proper cat food. and now you've brought up a subject that i'm really interested in mentalward. lets see - vegetarian - vegetables - food - chicken - chickens!

Hi mentalward, well actually you know you aren't a meat eater at all. I've actually come across the new phrase to describe you on more than one occasion this week, what was it ' a non-vegetarian food eater'. So what do you think of that one? All these years we thought we were just plain old meat eaters. You know it's actually good with this one to have a bit of agreement as often it's probably only the topic opener who actually sees such remarks and when it's me I try and say something polite whilst in future I shall simply add thisas suggested above. It is the perfect response. Okay I must sleep, got to adjust to the early mornings again. Judith has responsed about the pet food so goodnight.

hijack. . can i mess with your discussion when you're gone?

LOL I don't know my country is to stupid to have NHC

Hi Zeph, it's one thing having a discussion routed to another track and that is absolutely fine by me, it happens all the time, but for someone to specifically come into a discussion to get something they believe in across as a kind of crusade is too much. As you know I don't venture into politics except for the wonderful new interest of 'left of politics'.

glad you brought up the subject of healthcare zephyr - do you think there are some things you shouldn't be able to get on the nhs?

Hi Karen, another voice of reason, just like Aunty. You got my point exactly. And that was just one example, so many people have only one agenda and force it everywhere they can land looking for support, probably without realising how off putting they are being.

hello mcowiti, I prefer to react with annoyance which is much more my style, and then perhaps make a discussion from it, than waste my time 'forgiving' total strangers and their sad obsessions.

Hi Shaurus, I agree with you totally about the right for curtain rods and you may bring them up whenever you wish, there's already a blue rabbit harping on about rights for potatoes, all fine innocous subjects bring no disharmony or disagreeent with them. Actually I don't think those curtain rods have any rights at all out here, we have shutters instead of curtains Also spot on I would say with your assesment of these lunatic hijackers with only topic on their brains, but spare me, I don't want to be converted, forced to give up meat (apologies, forced to become a non-vegetarian eater),forced to make goat watching illegal, allow us some small pleasures as some of us don't actually have a guilty conscience about YOUR agenda. As I must be now stating the same old, I will neverthless say it again. I will no longer give lip service to hijackers but respond with a Like how you write by the way and prof checked and found good anti monorachist so sent you f/r

You pose a difficult one here Sharus as I'm so polite I feel duty bound to give a response and I've already decided to totally ignore anyone who makes a comment I find mean, and now you expect me to ignore hijackers to. Not converted me, I'm going try with the yawn first, but there again it is unlikely ever to happen to me again as this discussion will be seen by thousands and will realise they are better off hijacking some else. Would you like to borrow the blue rabbit sometimes, she has a potato obsession but won't eat goat meat as is vegetarian. If you mention curtain rods to the rabbit she'll think it's a new plaything for her rats.

Lip service to hijackers is never a good idea, thea09. Nope, no, uh-uh. Aside from the obvious risks, like herpes, a tired jaw and whatnot, you just give them what they want (besides the obvious): Attention. So besides curtain rods, I'd like to take this opportunity to speak on behalf of those who get little enough attention in their lives! We care! We just want nothing to do with them... ... although there is this very deep pit not too far from where I stay... I do love potatoes! (... but detest goat meat!)

it's funny how smoking laws have changed so much..i can agree with some of them though.i don't think smoking on a bus is a good idea either. but when i was little,people did it everywhere.it's a big change when i think about it.

No..I don't! I expect chickens, rabbits & potatoes hung up on a curtain rod!

Good morning to you pergammano, at least it is a more civilised hour with you now. There is nothing remiss at all with wandering off topic and often the need arises and even becomes a relief if there are multitudinous responses. Hijacking is a completely different matter and I intend to stamp it out of my discussions forthwith, by responding in future with only a simple . Yawns sometimes speak louder than words. Although I welcome diversity of opinion I do not welcome one opinion on something else because no one else will listen, what ai suprise. One responder here upon being hijacked in this most brutal of ways did advise said hijacker to start her own discussion on her agenda, only to be told she did but no one responded. Sad indeed. For myself I can't take up every cause on Mylot, as I am already committed to rights for potatoes, possibly chickens, and now the extremley serious matter of curtain rods. It's lovely to wish me a banner day, and hope you have one too, but I've never heard the expression before, I hope you aren't expecting me to put a banner on my profile. Have a lovely morning.

I do see your point. I missed the discussion but I can only imagine.

Hi sid, yes it really happened and the really ludicrous part is that the new term for people who aren't vegetarian is 'non vegetarian eaters'. Political correctness gone mad. There's been lots of examples in this discusson. One of the hijackers even admitted to one of the responsers when asked why an unrelated topic was being shouted about mid discussion and raise their own discussion was that she had done but hadn't had more than 4 responses. It's like talking about fancy cars in the fancy car section and having someone descend and start arguing the immorality of spending such money on cars when people are starving. We all know people are starving but do we have to talk about it instead of Porches, or whatever they talk about in a fancy car section.

Hi dlr, really glad to see more agreement on this one. It makes me think when it happens, here we go again, only allowed to be intensely serious and lets see how guilty the unwarrented response is meant to make me feel now. So all future hijackers will be answered like this What annoys me most is they presume we are not aware of the issue they raise, while we may actually have joined a rational discussion about said agenda, but will have been offput by a discussion started by the person who is obviously obsessive about said agenda. And other times I'm just absolutely not interested in their agenda at all.

Hi Kitty, you don't need to respond to every discussion my dear, it was either today or yesterday one of yours wasn't my cup of tea. But one can never be to late to enter a discussion, you can revive three year old ones if it takes your fancy. I've now found my own response to use to these agenday hijackers and it's this