How far back do you go?

@thea09 (18305)
Greece
September 30, 2009 2:28pm CST
In your lineage of course. Naturallty I have French blood as I am a direct descedant of Norman the Conqueror who defeated Harold at the Battle of Hastings in 1066. The most famous date in English history. How do I know? Because someone in the family must have started the rumour, there was certainly no proof ever seen. I bet 300 years ago one of my ancestors was trying to impress his neighbour and that's where it started. So who out there can claim such an illustrious past. Any direct descendants of Richard the Lionheart, Napoleon, Ghandi, Christopher Columbus, pirates, ANYONE. Or do you know someone who is, or thinks they are?
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@jb78000 (15139)
30 Sep 09
i know who my grandparents were (and in one case is) is that not enough for you? let's see [thinks through names] ok there's some good scottish names coming up so we could try brucey or burns and his meecies but since none of us know anyway i think i'll go for arthur conan doyle - famous for his belief in fairies, pixies, goblins, spiritualism, vampires and lots more beside. fair enough doyle does not figure in the names list but hey, that hardly matters does it.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
30 Sep 09
Buggs Bunny and?
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
30 Sep 09
Get real jb, I know who your true ancestor is, but do you still retain the title, Lady MacBeth.
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@wmraul (2552)
• Bucharest, Romania
30 Sep 09
Hey, please ! SIR Arthur Conan Doyle, ok ? Was one of my best students in one of my prior lifes .. Holly gramophone, what a wild imagination he had ... not. I had once tell him some of my issues I had while travell into some south-American jungle and he write a book ("the lost world") about it and grabed all the cash ..
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@ShepherdSpy (8544)
• Omagh, Northern Ireland
30 Sep 09
A previous discussion of mine on dropping names of famous people got a few responses fom some who were apparently "connected" to those sort of names you might recognise..Genealogy has not been a big thing in my family thus far..A Grand-Uncle emigrated to the US years ago and must have lost contact with those at home,as some years back a Grandson of his turned up researching the family tree..Haven't heard of many famous people in our family,although one connection is an International level Soccer Goalkeeper..
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
30 Sep 09
Hi shepherdspy, I must have missed yours I'm afraid but this was indeed inspired by a mylotting name dropper. The rabbit will get it. Your soccer player would mean nothing to me unless he plays for the world famous Panaithianaikos, who are currently enjoying some Romanian hospitality.
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30 Sep 09
its called football!
@wmraul (2552)
• Bucharest, Romania
30 Sep 09
Did I mention I am fan of Dinamo Bucuresti since ever ? And yes, is called FOOTBALL. Soccer is a very similar sport played in USA. There they name "football" a game played with hands ..
@jillhill (37354)
• United States
30 Sep 09
None that I know of......on my mothers side they have went way back to Germany and on my dad's side my brother took him to Norway to see where we came from.....but I am not related to anyone famous....or notorious!
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
30 Sep 09
Hi jillhill, well aren't there any famous Norweigan axe murderers who you could claim to be related to, no ones going to check are they. Actually this is remiss of me but I can't at this moment think of any famours Norwegans, wansn't there an explorer though. not famous enough for me to remember his name though.
@wmraul (2552)
• Bucharest, Romania
30 Sep 09
The vikings ... Varangian Guards ... Olav the Saint ..
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
30 Sep 09
hi thea well I don't know how famous John the immigrant ladd was but he and his wife Bathsheba Lovett came from England to Virginia in 1400.she was branded as a witch but some high ranking person came forward to save her fourteen year old hide. They would be my great grandparents many greats back to 1400, they had Amos Ladd who had NOble Ladd who had Noble Ladd the second who had Christopher Ladd mygr gr grandfather who had Elizabeth Ladd mygreat grandmother who married James Clark my great grandfather. Christopher Ladd came within a hairs inch of being hanged for killing a union soldier but in the nick of time they found an itinerant indian who was trying to sell the button he had cut off the soldier's uniform after he murdered the soldier. whew.What always amazed me was that my great grandmother Elizabeth Ladd had a sister named Patsie Ladd, okay that is also my first name. and my parents knew nothing about Christopher ladd at all or his children. wow.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
30 Sep 09
Hello Hatley, I rather enjoyed that I must say. So 600 years of family history to make the name Ladd resound and you had to go and change it to Hatley. So basically you're English through and through, but your ancestors from England must have been descended from someone. Hatley we could be long lost cousins if your Ladds were also desceneded originally from William the Conqueror.
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
1 Oct 09
I really don't know. My father was put up for adoption when he was 5 and he really doesn't remember his real parents and my mother's family came from Russia a few generations ago. They really didn't talk much about the generations before them. I really haven't been interested except it would be nice to know what my dad's heritage is.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
3 Oct 09
That's a great idea. Now, I just have to find a race of people that are short, dark hair and eyes, and talks with their hands....
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
2 Oct 09
Hi Zeph, if you can't find out about your dad's heritage you should pump your mothers family for information and pass it down the line. They could have had the most fascinating past, persecuted by pograms, peasaants or landowners, if I had a Russian lingeage I'd be grabbing all the details before all the information was lost.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
3 Oct 09
Well pick all the bits you'd like and turn them into family fokelore, a good way to let the boys imaginations run wild and interest them in history at the same time.
@wmraul (2552)
• Bucharest, Romania
30 Sep 09
So, you are not a Zeus descendent ? Please be so kind and repeat this question after several hundreds years to my descendents - they will answer you they are direct relative with ME. As we will consider reincarnation, odds are that then, in future, you will ask .. me, again.
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
30 Sep 09
Hi wmraul, so are you planning on being famous enough for your descendants to boast about you. Personally I'm ruling out the reincarnation bit. Have you never thought of spicing up your family history a bit, having the Count in your past somewhere should be good for keeping all those official types a way, nice wooden cofin lying around under a few heads of garlic. Just think of the fun you could have with the family stories.
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@wmraul (2552)
• Bucharest, Romania
30 Sep 09
Well, I once had in mind to "blur up" my family history and to "discover" I'm somehow descendent of Robin Hood. While doing research for this I got info I actually may be .. so I was shocked and scared and I stoped the search ..
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
30 Sep 09
WEll you can rely on me. From now on I will know you as Mr Hood. Still think the count connection would be better though.
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@stvasile (7306)
• Romania
1 Oct 09
I only go back 2 or 3 generations, and that only helps me know what areas of my country my forefathers are from - and that's not too far from where I was born. However, my overall appearance makes me think I have some Celtic origins. Either that or I am closely related to the Neanderthal men, from which I seem to inherit some features.
@stvasile (7306)
• Romania
4 Oct 09
It's true that (if the H. neanderthalensis merging H. sapiens theory is correct) all humans draw from the Neanderthals, but not all of us show neanderthalian features. The rather short and robust body, wide basin, big head, reddish hair are features I share (more or less) with the nearderthalians, or at least with some Celtic ancestors.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
6 Oct 09
You really should put a picture up.
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
1 Oct 09
Hi srvasile, I rather imagined if we're going back that far that all of us must in some way be related to the Neaderthals, after the monkeys of course. The forefathers of rural Greeks also stayed close to home, unless they took to the sea, or were off fighting in wars, because of the isolation of the area before roads came into fashion. It accounts for much of the families all being related to each other.
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• Australia
5 Oct 09
I am English (now a dinky-di Aussie) and my grandparents are Irish and French, but my family is such a crazy mixed-up batch that I doubt I could trace them back even if I wanted to do so. I have cousins who are step-brothers and step-sisters and it goes downhill from there. Here in Australia, as people trace their lineage, the big desire seems to be to discover they came from a convict background. If they can't find a convict in their tree, they want a relationship to Ned Kelly, our most famous bushranger.
• Australia
5 Oct 09
The vast majority of convicts were petty crims: ones who stole a crust of bread to ward off starvation. I don't think many were hardened criminals. Those who survived the long voyage had a hard life and were to be admired, which I suppose, is why Aussies want to find a convict in their tree. While many claim to be descendants of convicts, I don't think they would be famous - just ordinary, hard working early settlers.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
7 Oct 09
What a pity there weren't any famous axe murderers or some such to claim to be a descendant from. I can understand wanting a colourful convict in the past.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
5 Oct 09
Hi cloudwatcher, that must be fun looking back for a convice connection. Do tell if there are any famous claimants out there, grissly murderers in the past, or high flying criminals. I suppose the majority end up being descended from great grandma who stuffed a loaf of bread up her skirt to feed her hungry children and ended up in the land of sun.
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
30 Sep 09
Adam and Eve? All I know for certain is that my Aunt has traced the lineage on one side as far back as 16th century Denmark. Nobody famous, far as I know...
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
30 Sep 09
Hm, I'll ask...
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
30 Sep 09
You should really walk round muttering to a skull and take up grave digging in your spare time.
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@wmraul (2552)
• Bucharest, Romania
30 Sep 09
Sure Ophelia was not somewhere in the lineage ?
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@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
30 Sep 09
I wish I could say the same but I can't. I have a friend who says he's a descendant of someone, a king I believe, but I Can't remember which king. He's irish or scottish, my friend is if that helps. I mean, he's american but his ancestry. I don't know about my husband's but I believe I am of a german, irish or scottish, and english ancestry depending on which surname is talked about.
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
30 Sep 09
I just responded here about 10 mins ago and now its blank, maybe working on two screens at once isn't working so well. And my last comment was really witty too. Ok, if your friend needs to narrow it down to a scots or irish king there's an easy way to find out, if he wears a kilt and plays the bagpipes whilst drining guiness and eating haggis and potatoes then you are not one bit wiser than now.
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@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
2 Oct 09
Lol, sometimes I will be typing and have something really well thought out and extensive, and then BOOM! I hit a key and it's gone, by accident of course! Your remark sounded very witty! I was going along, thinking "mhm" "okay" and then BAM! I was none the wiser! In any case, My friend knows who the king was, I just don't remember.
@CEVCEV (543)
1 Oct 09
So you are related to David Cameron, will he get your vote though ????????
@CEVCEV (543)
3 Oct 09
Sure appear slimey
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
3 Oct 09
I devoted a whole discussion to him and it bombed totally, such a pity when people don't appreciate a bit of Machiavelli in their politicians. But the tories don't make them like they used to, bring back Tebbit and we can all have a bit of fun again.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
2 Oct 09
Hi cevcev, certainly not related and I'll be voting for Peter Mandleson, I prefer intelligence in the slimey politicians I vote for.
@indybaty (368)
• Panama
1 Oct 09
When my mom was little, because we have spanyard, antillan, and hispanic descent, she use to say, when she was a child that she was a direct descendant from Queen Isabel, I dont know where she got the notion, but some weird stuff she use to make up when she was a child. Hehehe, my dad when were little, use to mention that we had one descendant in "La Amistad" that when he was sold somewhere between United States, he actually escaped and radicated till he reached somewhere close to Colombia and settled. Where we came along and joined with my mother´s descent... hehehe it was really hilarious because not only it is so not true, but if it was so, my country at the time didnt even exist. Just jungle. But the notion of imagination as childhood was nice.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
3 Oct 09
Hi indybaty, personally I think you should continue with your dad's tale as it's a good one to pass down and certainly gives them a connection to the slavery past which future generations should be aware of, and people did survive in deep jungle areas around Columbia, only witness some of the strange places which Henri Cherriac mentions in his escapade of escape from the French penal colonies. Better to have an imaginary historican past to pass down that nothing at all. Isabel and Ferdinand of Spain was that?
@indybaty (368)
• Panama
3 Oct 09
Yes thats right!. My grandmother had a story herself. But my mom doesnt remember it that much, but I remember when my parents would tell me the story... oh I just said its not true only because my father denied that he ever said the story. See, because of that, and you are right, it did make me very aware of my black heritage, though I dont look black.. I look quite generalized but its in the blood. My dad´s story is a bit sad in real life. See, he told us that because that is all he knew about his father... that he was black. My grandmother on my father´s side raised him on his own. She was of portuguese descent so theres another story on that one! I was thinking of doing so, but also now my husband´s story will be there, though he said he doesnt want to involve his heritage. That what is most important is to teach him to respect and love family.
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
6 Oct 09
I hope that if you have children you pass these stories down, if you think they really aren't true you can just go with 'family legend says'. Over here we don't have these interesting mixturs much as people tended to stay close to home, even in the same villages for generations thus it is more likely that everyone is related to everyone else than anything else. There have been a few of the local men who ventured abroad for some time though to work usually in Canada or Australia, and of course the ones who took to the seas. They tend to be a bit more openminded than the rest and will even try foreign food, but inevitably they return to their villages here.
@sunny68 (1327)
• India
3 Oct 09
as far as my lineage goes i can only remember my grand parents names (they were ordinary landlords)...beyond that i have absolutely no idea. but then since 'no proof' is required....i might as well start thinking of some interesting ancestors.... but if you would like a mix of ancestor-y and mythology then we (our community - or caste) are supposed to be decedents of lord Chitragupt - who was the official bookkeeper to the Gods. it is because of this that we have a long tradition of preferring jobs that involves use of pen and paper. we also have a special festival in which we worship pen and paper.
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
3 Oct 09
Hi sunny, I like your response here and it is rather reminiscent of some old tradition of people bearing the name of the family trade. So when exactly was the original Chitragupt around, are we going back centuries here with eveyone mostly sticking to the pen and paper tradition?
@sunny68 (1327)
• India
4 Oct 09
i am not sure about the dates. its part of religion or religious mythology. the pen and paper tradition is followed ritually and is often taken seriously, even by those, where their job does not require use of pen and paper. we also get a restricted holiday for that. with changing times it has become more of a social/festive event. i follow the same (at-least till the time i keep getting the holiday...)
30 Sep 09
No one famous as far as i know, but my great grandma was found on the doorstep, so she could be the secret lovechild of someone famous!! tho who i have no clue, the lord of the manor maybe? the irish side as far as i know has nothing, but seen as everyone knows everyone in ireland i'm telling people i'm related to bono! At school used to tell everyone daley thompson was my uncle, they believed me, even though i'm white!
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
30 Sep 09
Hi LittleMissSunshine, well it's nice that you have some famous Irish relations to claim as your own but I've never heard of them. I quite liked that chap in Cold Feet though who was IRsih, are you perhaps related to him? Now being left on the doorstep is a really good story to tell - one could have early senility and go round of accusing anyone they took a dislike to of being Mummy or Daddy.
1 Oct 09
That would be awesome!
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
1 Oct 09
I would like to believe that my lineage is an ordinary lineage of men and women. Having said this, My grandmother was closely related to one of the renaissance man of India Pandit Ishwar Chandra Vidyasagar and also another of patriots who fought for our independence. My maternal grandmother herself was a revolutionary person and had great values. She was famous by her own right.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
1 Oct 09
Hi mimpi, so people to be proud of in your past. It must have been quite unusaul in your grandmothers day for women to stand up and speak out, rather like the suffragettes I imagine.
@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
5 Oct 09
I'm related to a very famous tea making family whose name I cannot mention here because it is against the Guidelines to disclose any personal information. It is an English tea making firm and that is my maiden name. It may not impress anyone here but I'm certainly proud of my family history.
@irishidid (8688)
• United States
30 Sep 09
It's kind of difficult for me as I was adopted. I know I come from the O'Neill clan in Ireland and the actor Dale Robertson is like a third cousin or something like that. One of my biological brothers has the information on our genealogy, but I haven't talked to any of them for years. Too many issues.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
30 Sep 09
Hi irishidid, well that's another famous Irish actor there that I've never heard of. If you're adopeted though you can make up anyone you like to be descended from and turn up on the doorstep to take advantage of all the stashed family heirlooms. I would think there would be quite a lot of O'Neills in the phonebook though.
@jellymonty (2352)
1 Oct 09
So are you like dame thea? I should hope so if you have conquerors in your lineage! I am a definite descendant of cleapotra. It explains my why every Tom D*ck and Harry always drool when they look at me
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
1 Oct 09
Good one jellymonty, Cleopatra it shall be but be warned, an asp could be on its way to bite anytime.
@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
1 Oct 09
Hi Thea...I can go back only 4 or 5 generations on each of my parents side, but am a mixture of English, German, and French Canadian. My kiddos have all of that plus Native American in them. I guess that makes us mutts??? LOL It's fascinating to study a family tree book, though, or to add to one. Karen
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
1 Oct 09
Hi Karen,so you prefer to stick to the unvarnished truth rather than elaborate on your lineage. I think its fun though when people have so much mixture in their background but that comes with ancestors moving around a lot.
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• United States
2 Oct 09
Not always, my Thea. Sometimes I imagine having been descended from royalty, or elves, or perhaps an as yet discovered buried city of short amazonic faery women. Or, when my skin gets sunburned, I pretend that it is my Marsian blood line.
• Philippines
1 Oct 09
Hello THea, AS far as I know, Most blood from my veins came from a spanish descent. but luckily i looked like and born as a Filipino because i don't people getting intimitated with me. have agreat day
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
1 Oct 09
Hi Letran, I don't think there's anything intimidating about Spanish men, what gave you that idea. I can understand you not wanting to stand out from your compatriots though.