Messy children.....

@mommyboo (13174)
United States
December 5, 2009 8:11pm CST
I don't mean to ruffle any feathers with this title or the discussion itself, but I am beginning to wonder why this is so common. I'm not talking about children MAKING MESSES, I'm talking about them looking messy. I am at my daughter's school often and I have a group of friends there now too. Most of them don't get up as early as I do but their kids are dressed nice and their hair is fixed, etc. There are SOME kids who arrive at school and look like they threw on whatever MIGHT fit and wasn't covered in lunch from the day before, they have uncombed hair, I just don't get it. When you get your kids up in the morning, don't you dress them in clean clothes and comb their hair?! We shower in the morning so I don't think I have ever sent my daughter to school looking like she crawled out of bed and grabbed clothes from the hamper. I think there was one time when I was sick that I went to school in sweats without a shower but that's not normal. Clue me in, once in awhile that makes sense. Every day?? Come ON.
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@lynnemg (4529)
• United States
6 Dec 09
I have three kids to get up and ready for school each day. My oldest is pretty good about it; he will make sure that his clothes are clean and he looks decent. My younger son, who is 9, is pretty good about wearing clean clothes, but sometimes, it is hard to get him to wear clothes that match well. My daughter, on the other hand, gives me fits a lot. She dresses fairly well, most of the time, but there are times when she is wearing clothes that don't quite match or may be clean, but have a stain on them. Normally, she will brush her hair without problems, but there are days when it is a fight to get her to use a brush at all. Those are the days when she goes to school with her hair looking bad. It isn't that I don't get them up early enough, it isn't that I don't do my beset to get them dressed in decent clothing and be well-groomed, it is simply that thoe days, when she (or the boys) give me problems, I decide that it is more important for them to be at school on time than to have a big fuss and fight about brushing hair. My daughter is one that will do anything and everything to avoid doing things unless she wants to do them. I will not make the other kids late for class over her hair. If she chooses not to brush it as she knows she should, I let her go to school with her hair looking bad. My kids normally bathe at night, so in the morning, they don't have much to do to get ready. I do not allow television on in the morning, nor do I allow video games. They simply procrastinate at times and end up going to school looking less then their best. I am one of those parents who can understand messy hair, mis-matched clothes, and even clothes that are not in the best of shape, but I cannot understand a dirty face. It can be difficult at times to get a child, esspecially an independant and stubborn child, to dress well and brush their hair, but, even kids like this can have their face clean.
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@agv0419 (3022)
• Philippines
6 Dec 09
It is the responsibility of the parents to make their children look decent and clean. When we were younger our mother see to it that we look clean and even at home she don't want us to look like a street kids. When we taking a bath she scrubbing our body thoroughly we complaing because it hurts a lot. We are very thankful to our mother because she don't let us to look dirty unlike in other mothers they don't care if there kids are dirty or if they children have a clean clothes or not.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
6 Dec 09
I have a solution for this too. I have had friends tell me that I would be beside myself if I had 3 kids to get ready in the morning. Well.... when I have taken care of friends' kids, I have had 3 or 4 kids to get ready. I manage to do it and they are all clean and have fixed hair and packed lunches or backpacks and we get to school on time. I realize that I take on the lion's share of making them get ready, I will dress the younger ones or help because kids DO procrastinate and dawdle and such, but if I do it, it takes less than 10 minutes, even to dress 4 kids. It can help to have them pick out clothes the night before. My daughter and I did that for the first week or so of school to help because we have to be there by 7:10, which is super early. As long as we are done with the shower by 6:40, we are usually okay to leave before 7:10. The clean face thing bothers me too. I can't believe how many kids I see who don't wipe their faces, or their noses are running and they never go check in a mirror to make sure they didn't leave snot all over lol.
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
6 Dec 09
One more thing - before my daughter was born I made several promises to myself. One - that I would NEVER become one of those moms who 'let herself go'... who never took a shower till 4 pm, who stopped cooking dinner and started getting takeout every night, who piled up 6 loads of laundry before I did any, who stopped taking care of myself and started sticking my hair in a ponytail and wearing sweats 7 days a week. I also swore that I would not let my daughter run around outside in just a diaper, have dirty bare feet or dirty hands, snot all over her face, I would never just chop off her hair because I was sick of dealing with it, and I would surrepitiously change her clothing if my hubby put her pants on backwards or her shirt on inside out.... It takes very little time to stay on top of things, it just takes good planning. Teaching good grooming habits is important, my son used to fight me about using SOAP and DEODORANT when he was 11. I STILL have trouble with that sometimes and now he is 18!!! I am so grateful that my daughter likes baths and showers and things that smell good and she doesn't go about with greasy unbrushed hair and an outfit she wore 2 days in a row.
• United States
6 Dec 09
I always try to make sure my kids are presentable and that they represent the family. If the kid looks like a mess then the parents don't take any pride in their appearance either. Now I know some parents don't have a lot of money to spend on clothes but they can make their kids at least have some pride in themselves.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
6 Dec 09
It doesn't cost money to wash a face or comb hair... lol. At least it wouldn't cost ME money. Also, having decent clothes that fit is not always an expensive proposition. Then again, people who just don't care that their kids are messy and neglected looking won't care what I know or how to fix it either....
@34momma (13882)
• United States
7 Dec 09
I don't get that either. my baby girl is 5. I make sure she is scrubbed and washed every morning. her hair is brushed and looking pretty as a picture. i make sure i brush her teeth each morning before she leaves the house. I see children all the time who look like they just crawled out of bed. it's heart breaking really. not everyone has money however, that doesn't mean your children should look clean and put together!
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
8 Dec 09
Cleanliness isn't a matter of money, it's a matter of taking the time. Sometimes I think people are poor in time management, it has nothing to do with economics or financial issues.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
6 Dec 09
hi mommyboo well I am well past that stage as I am a senior citizen but my son was always neat and clean. I am wondering if some of these kids may be from homes where dad is the one who has custody as a man's idea of neat and clean may differ from slightly to dramatically different from a moms idea of neat and clean. Or again they may be from wealty homes where the maid or aupair or other person may be the only one who oversees the child getting off to school. it has to be either the parents are gone or are in bed or just not paying any attention to how the child is dressed. sounds like kids who are pretty much on their own at that time of day anyway. thats sad.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
6 Dec 09
Ugh. Mylot ATE my response. I had said that one time when my daughter was an infant, my husband put something on her backwards. I changed her outfit before we left the house lol. There was another time that my older daughter thought she was being helpful and she put something on the baby that didn't go together. Once again, I changed her and told my older daughter that it was not appropriate for the weather. There are times still when I return home and my daughter is happily unshowered, wearing her fuzzies, etc and hanging out with daddy, but if he were to go somewhere with her, he would shower her and make sure she got dressed lol.
@jazel_juan (15747)
• Philippines
7 Dec 09
i know what you mean, my daughter is in kinder 2 and the night before i always see to it that her things are already prepared for the morning so we wont be in a rush. I always see to it that she is properly groomed and all.. maybe, there are just parents who cannot see such importance? or maybe they cannot wake up early lol.. i do not see any reason really why they cannot do such for their kids:)
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
8 Dec 09
It seems odd that someone wouldn't care. I also don't understand when someone says it will take so much extra time. It truly doesn't take much extra time.....
@Boofybutt (316)
• United States
7 Dec 09
I think there MIGHT be some parents that just don't care, but for instance with my daughters hair, I brush it every morning, but by the time she gets home from school she looks like she's been through a wind tunnel, especially now since it's winter and she's wearing a hat to cover her ears. My sister is one of those parents that just don't care. I remember having to help my nieces and nephews get ready for school while I was trying to get myself ready. I'm not sure about other parents, but I make it a point to get up and make them a good breakfast and while they're eating I get their clothes and everything else ready for them.
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
7 Dec 09
But I'm sure she arrives at school looking like she owns a mom, right? LOL! I volunteer at my daughter's school a lot and tutor, and one little girl in particular, I don't know if she even knows how to comb her hair herself. I think she has beautiful hair, it is auburn brown and curly and she is a DARLING little girl, but her hair is always ratty and tangled and her clothing is seriously like 2 sizes too big. I would feel like a big jerk if I sent my daughter to school looking like that. My friends would wonder if I were sick or something.
• United States
7 Dec 09
That's kind of how it is with me too. I remember when my son was in kindergarten there was this little boy just covered in leftover food and dirt. I saw this little boy everyday because my daughter and I would walk my son to school, and I just felt so bad for him. He kind of just took to me, I don't know if it was because he saw me everyday or what was going on, but he kept trying to give me the projects he made with the class. He is such a sweet kid. I feel bad for the kids when it seems like their parents just don't care. And yes my daughter at least looks like she owns a mother when she gets there (or at least when she leaves my possession) in the mornings, but she's 6, so what do I expect. Right?
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
11 Dec 09
Oh dear, my Naomi... she hates combing her hair, doesn't care if her pants are too short, etc. I battle with her all the time. Just disappeared all her size 6 pants so she's forced to wear the 7s. but hair brushing, oh what a battle...
@cream97 (29087)
• United States
6 Dec 09
Hi, mommyboo. Yes, I can see what you mean. Sometimes kids can dress their ownselves. They did not have anyone at home help them to get ready. They just dressed the best way that they can. My son will be eight tomorrow on his Birthday. And, I still make sure that he brushed his teeth and comb his hair in the mornings. I will do this until he turns at least 10 years old. I want to make sure that he is clean and neat when he leaves to go to school. Maybe the parents of this child is not paying any attention how their child leaves for school in the mornings. I know that I pay strict attention to mines. I agree with you, I have walked my son to school last year without showering. When I get back home, I will just take me a shower then. I am pretty sure that other moms have done the same thing too.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
6 Dec 09
It just takes a little extra effort. Honestly, if I only have a few minutes, I'll leave my hair the way it is and comb my daughter's.
@cupkitties (7421)
• United States
7 Dec 09
Well to me that depends on the age of the child. My kids are able to shower, dress themselves and comb their own hair and brush their own teeth. THe combing thing however I have to every day remind them to do that and to brush their teeth *face palm* The thing is that because they have inherited my hair genes, you can brush their hair all pretty but in less than 5 minutes their hair is looking like heck again. I don't know how or why. Thats just how it happens. Also you really don't know what those kids were doing on their way home. When I was a child there was a playground on our way to the bus stop. Well by the time we got to school we were filthy from playing. The social service came to our home because they thought our parents didn't wash our clothes and bathe us when really it was us playing.
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@CJscott (4187)
• Portage La Prairie, Manitoba
6 Dec 09
That may not be intended to ruffle feathers but it just might. I will be having to ask, Are you a stay at home mom? What if these kids are responsible for getting themselves up and to school, because Mom, worked the night shift and is sleeping, and Dad is to busy getting ready to go to his work to help. Or that it just may be possible the Parents of these children simply don't care about how their children present themselves? Perhaps they let the child choose for themselves? For all you know, these kids could be homeless, and not have a place to take a shower everyday, yet you judge..."all kids should be clean and presentable"... That is what I took from that statement. Look deeper before making judgments. It might even be, that the children put up too much of a fight, and the parents give up, or it could even be possible, that they are bathed and hair combed got clean clothes on, but by the time they get to school, they decided to take a roll in the dirt and play in the trees. Cheers.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
6 Dec 09
Well.... for all intents and purposes, a four or five year old child should NOT have to get themselves up and ready for school without a parent. Bottom line is a parent should be involved in HELPING them and teaching them the daily things you do to get ready. This is NORMAL. These kids are NOT homeless, I do see the parents occasionally... at least some of them. A few of them (the kids) take the bus to and from school. Maybe they don't care, certainly but I get the feeling that it bothers the kids. You know, I believe that people who care about themselves SHOULD BE CLEAN AND PRESENTABLE. Yes I realize there are people who simply DON'T care about themselves but you know, I feel sorry for them. I don't think that there are truly that many people who REALLY don't care. I think there are some who feel like they can't afford to care, but that's different than truly not caring at all. Nobody wants to think about that baby they planned and prepared for growing up and turning into some ratty old homeless person. People in that situation never started out that way and never WANTED their lives to end up that way!
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
11 Dec 09
Oh my gosh, you just described my daughter this morning. LOL. Seriously, she had plenty of clean clothes and what she wore was clean, it just hadn't been pressed. It was a skirt and a school T-Shirt and tights. The thing was she pulled the skirt out of my basket of stuff that needed to be pressed. But, I do know what you mean, there are kids that go to her school that come in every day in clothes that don't fit them properly. They are wearing things with holes and stains and a little bit of everything. I really feel sorry for these children too. I understand that there are a lot of people that aren't as lucky as us, but to make sure that your child is wearing clean clothes and to make sure that their hair is brushed is not asking too much.
@Louc74 (620)
6 Dec 09
Hi, Mommyboo. This makes me so distressed. I befriended a girl once who had two beautiful little girls. The girls got themselves up in the morning, while she lay in her bed. She didn't work, had hardly worked her whole life, and those kids got up and out to school themselves. Then they wouldn't get home until around 3pm, and the second they came in the door, she started screaming at them to get out of her face. I was there one day, and it was the first time I'd seen the extent of it, they came in saying "this happened, that happened" and she just could not tolerate them. So I spoke to her about it once the girls were out of the room, said what a shame for them, all they wanted to do was share their day with her! Then, once, I babysat for them overnight. It was halloween, but a party was more important to her. Her eldest was going away the next morning for a 5 day school trip, and was really upset her mum wasn't going to be there in the morning. Her response "But it's a party!?!". So she hadn't any of the things for her daughters trip packed! When the girls got up in the morning, I asked what they wanted for breakfast, and they looked at me like I had green horns. "We only get breakfast at the weekends at grannys house." Well, they were flaming well having their breakfast when I looked after them! Told them to jump in the shower. They said they didn't wash in the morning, their great gran who lived next door shouted them in most mornings to wipe their face with baby wipes because she didn't want them to go to school with dirty faces. Well, they had their faces washed when I watched them! I asked them the night before to get their clothes ready for morning. None of their school clothes were clean. They told me "Mum just gets it back out of the clothes basket if we don't have anything to wear." So I had to do a washing to make sure they had clean clothes. When it came time to brush their teeth after breakfast, they had no toothbrushes! Their mum had been meaning to get them new ones for over a week! But she could afford a new outfit for her party! They were highly delighted that I did their hair for them. All of it was just heartbreaking. I decided to end my friendship with her, I practically hated her after finding all of that out. But I did go to her grandmother, and tell her to do something, or I would be reporting her. The oldest girl had been bullied at school, called "tink" because of her dirty clothes, etc. But it sounds, from your story, like it isn't that uncommon.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
6 Dec 09
I just don't think it takes that much planning and preparation and time to make sure you can get your kids up, washed, dressed, and ready for school. It just IS NOT hard. People who say the kids won't LET THEM are caving in - they are KIDS. They are the PARENT. What PARENT allows the KIDS to control what happens? I just don't understand that at all. I'm just at a loss to understand why the parents would not realize that other people would notice their kid(s) is/are dirty or messy. I'm not sure if maybe it's a cultural thing but I would think it would be the opposite because don't some other cultures care MORE about making sure their kids are dressed up nice or that the baby girls have earrings? I just don't know...
• Pakistan
6 Dec 09
I don't have my own kids. But I know what you mean. It's just the general attitude of families. Some families are too busy to dress their kids up in the morning. Both mother and father working etc. I think all parents would care about their children being dressed up nicely unless they had something a lot more important on their minds that needed to be taken care of. Some children are obstinate too. They don't want to get up early in the morning and take the time to dress themselves up properly. It's a hard enough task for their parents to get them up early and ready for school in time.
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
6 Dec 09
Usually what I tell people is just put aside a few extra minutes. Explain to the kids that they must get ready or there will be consequences. follow through with the consequences. Daily routines are often time crunched and many times things go wrong, but if you make it a habit and move as quickly as you can, there is more time for other things, like watching a little tv and having breakfast AFTER you are ready. There have been times where my daughter wasted all her time, and that meant she did not get breakfast. It doesn't mean she doesn't shower or doesn't wear clean clothes or doesn't brush her hair though. Setting out clothing the night before does wonders for speeding up the getting ready process. For people who don't shower in the morning, you could braid hair or roll it up overnight so it takes only half a minute to fix it... or use a little water to make a boy's hair lie flat or spike it up...
• United States
25 Dec 09
I've read most of these comments. Kudos to you for having your act together. I got asked at school about my daughter having messy hair and unclean clothes. She has tantrums and won't let me brush her hair. And her clothes are washed always, but she is a messy child who stains them and many of the stains do not come out. I was pretty much accused of neglect when the truth is her hair is babyfine and flyaway. It never stays in place even after brushing. She always ruins her clothes. But she is always showered and clean. Does anyone have a suggestion for a child like this, who is stubborn and strong-willed? I don't like her to look this way. I just don't have the answer. And yet I'm being accused of neglect? That hurts.
@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
7 Dec 09
Eversince I was little, I would always shower before going to school. Since we moved to north america, my kids have taken the habit of taking baths at night before they go to bed. This means they don't take showers in the morning. They do have clean clothes, and I always ask them to wash their faces, but they always have hairs that look like they just rolled out of bed.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
7 Dec 09
I know a lot of people who bathe at night, and sometimes my daughter will want a bath at night too. Thing is though - neither of us can wake up properly without a quick shower in the morning. Even if I took a shower at night for some reason, I would still at least pop in for 3-5 minutes to wash the sleep out of my eyes, brush my teeth, and condition my hair lol. On the rare day that she doesn't take a shower, I rolled her hair up or something so I just have to take out the rollers.