Can we discuss religion with respect?

@Pose123 (21635)
Canada
March 21, 2010 6:08pm CST
Religion is considered by many as a topic to be avoid and often we prove them right. Yet if we express our beliefs openly and gently, others will sense our respect for their beliefs, even though they may differ from our own, and be more apt to listen to our thoughts and feelings. A need to defend our beliefs can lead us to act self-righteously and come across as combative. Speaking our mind calmly and thoughtfully, however, shows that we are comfortable expressing our beliefs and do not consider it necessary to convert others to our way of thinking. we can then have frank, spirited discussions together. People will often offer us the same respect that we show them if we can articulate our beliefs while being considerate of their values. Most of us, myself included, have said things that upset those of another faith. Perhaps if we try a little harder, others will join in discussing their faith and we can learn from each other. What do you think?
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@snoopyfan (1312)
• United States
22 Mar 10
It would be awesome if people can discuss religion with respect. The problem that I have been seeing on here is there are many lotters who like to keep bashing The Catholic Church and my faith along with it. I am really tired of people on here telling me what I am supposed to be doing as a Catholic and keep bringing up the scandal. I am saying this for the last time these priests, cardinals, bishops, etc are man and they made a mistake. They are sinners just like each and every one of you. None of you are in a place to judge and bash the church. I don't agree with the cover up but you know what it is not my place to judge them. This is something they need to repent with God and He has the final say. I also find it amusing none of these people who bash my church never say what their religion is even when I ask them. Why is that? Is it because I can't ask them to fix whatever scandals and problems are going on at their church. I have had respectful discussions with lotters of another faith. Sad to say not many but there are a few out here who can discuss God and not give me a lecture on what I am supposed to be doing. As long as people of other religion's are respectful to me I will show them respect. If they are going to insult My God, me, my faith, and my church I will defend them. People can speak about God without the insults and judgments I get on here. Jesus said he who has not sinned cast the first stone. I see a lot of stones be thrown by a lot of sinners in denial. None of you have made any mistakes or done anything to be ashamed of? I highly doubt it because we have all done things we are not proud of. How many of you would want God to judge you like you judge people? I don't think any of us would. That is why God is awesome and He doesn't judge us like we judge people on earth. Should we treat people with different views with more respect? Yes. Will we sad to say I don't think so. God Bless
2 people like this
• United States
22 Mar 10
"How many of you would want God to judge you like you judge people?" If I ever undertake a global conspiracy to enable and conceal child molesters, I'm OK with any and all Gods judging me for it. None of the criticism the Church is taking now has anything to do with your Church as a religion. It has everything to do with men committing secular crimes by molesting children, aiding and abetting them before, during, and after the fact, failing to report those child molesters, and conspiring to do same. We have every business juding them for those acts, their positions in the Church do not raise them above secular law. These are not matters to simply disagree with. I am Wiccan. If you are aware of a scandal you think I am in a position to do something about, by all means bring it to my attention.
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@Galena (9110)
22 Mar 10
Gerald Gardners hair was a scandal
@snoopyfan (1312)
• United States
22 Mar 10
I am sorry I don't know who that is but very funny. Thanks for your sharing this with us. Hair, religion, whatever you want to add. Great job and thanks again for the laugh. Peace
@Galena (9110)
22 Mar 10
unfortunately, some people can't discuss religion with respect. the reason for that is that they DON'T respect beliefs that differ from their own. these people are arrogant, rude, and ruin it for other people when we openly and politely discuss religion, even if our opinions differ, we can all experience spiritual growth. "you're wrong" isn't contributing to the discussion and doesn't give any growth or insight. but you see it all too often.
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@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
23 Mar 10
Hi Galena, Thank you for commenting you make a good point, "you're wrong" is not showing respect or contributing to a discussion. This is the twenty-first century and people today are much better educated than they were a hundred years ago. Why are people not thinking when it comes to religion? Some are of course and in the western world churches are losing ground very fast and maybe it's time they ask themselves why. Everyone has a part of the truth and no one has to change their religion, but we can all learn from each other and with a better understanding will come respect. Blessings.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
22 Mar 10
Sounds good in theory but in the Bible, Christ did tell us to go and convert everyone in the World and that HE would be with us to the end. However one has to be careful how to do it. You say that no one should try to convert others to their belief. The trouble is that this goes against Christian principles. But one does not need to preach to convert others, one can show by his or her life. The trouble is why do you want us to understand other religions. If you were writing a book about lets say, Muslims, then I could understand it. You want to be authentic so no Muslim would sue you. However if you believe that God thinks it is okay for that person to be a Muslim and has decided that no one should try to make him a Christian, that is wrong. Now God may decide to keep that person as a Muslim, but that does not mean that God wants that person to be a Muslim. It may be just that that God knows the person;s heart that he will be a hypocrite if he is forced to go to Church and will pretend to be a Christian. Also talking about your belief, will make it easier for the others to understand and realize that it is not all flowers and roses. And I would rather have someone become a Christian knowing that he or she might have to give up winning money in the gambling hall, or giving up sleeping with his girl friend before marriage, then to have someone believe that no matter what goes. Be honest but be tactful. The best ones to convert people are the pastors themselves, us lay people do not have the experience except in the way we walk.
@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
22 Mar 10
Hi suspenseful, Thanks for responding and I know that your beliefs come straight from the Bible. I like your comment about showing your faith by your way of life. The promlem of course, lies in the fact that most muslims are as sure that the truth lies in the teachings of the Koren, as you are that the truth is in the Bible alone. I would like to see everyone learn about the teachings of other religions because I think that we are much more alike than we think. The biggest reason for the hatered that is often shown is because we don't understand each other. As in all things respect only comes with learning and there will be no learning without dialog. I understand too that the Bible says to convert everyone in the world, but there really wasn't a Christian church as such at that time. I think we are to convert people to living the way that Christ taught, which in many cases is also found in other religions. Blessings.
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@barehugs (8973)
• Canada
22 Mar 10
Although I am not a religious man,I think its of the utmost importance that those of us who believe, are not discouraged from it. There is a part of every human being that craves for sustenance from the Unknown, a longing for the knowledge, and understanding that can only come from God. For these reasons I think we can all better ourselves by calm and thoughtful discussions, remembering as we go that its only a discussion, and that the author of the piece is not necessarily being rude, or judgmental, but is only trying to encourage a thoughtful energetic response. Perhaps there are already more than enough wishy-washy posts on myLot, where the Poster works desperately, to protect his rating, by white-washing his words and ideas. Lets not let this happen here, and even more so, lets not whine, when it appears that our faith is being punctured like a pin in balloon. We are, after all, adults here on myLot, and if we are reflecting the essence of our Faith, and if we truly believe our Beliefs, Its going to take much more than a voice from the wilderness, to divorce us from our God!
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@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
22 Mar 10
Hi barehugs, Thanks for your support and I hope others see it the same way. I am not religious either but do consider myself to be spiritual and have my own ideas about God and life. There is no need for members of one church or religion to condemn others, they have enough to do to keep their own nose clean, that has to be understood from the beginning. I feel certain that there is more that unites us than divides us and dialog can only help. Blessings.
@snoopyfan (1312)
• United States
22 Mar 10
No one on here could ever divorce me from God no matter how much they bash my faith and my church. I will always defend it though.
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• Saudi Arabia
23 Mar 10
Today everyone don't live for religion.Everyone is trying to get more and more money. so we should change our mind and should think little about religion.
@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
23 Mar 10
Hi raja, Thanks for responding but regligion is still important to most people. Money means little because life is short. Blessings.
• Portugal
23 Mar 10
the problem comes with the claims religions make. Take christianity for example. One of its claims is that if you don't believe in christ you will burn in hell. From my point of view this is a threat and i find it offensive. Some claims no matter how gently you deliver them simply cannot be respected
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@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
23 Mar 10
Hi blogsblog, Thank you for your comment, but there are Christians who don't believe in hell and even some who accept that there are other paths to God. This is a sign of progress and I'm sure there are those in other religions who are also accepting of other faiths. I agree it's difficult to respect, much less dialog with, someone who simply says, "you're wrong". Some Christians will say, I don't want to learn about the teachings of Islam, I already know the truth, while there are many Muslims who will say the same of Christianity. The point is we have to start somewhere because without dialog there can be no progress. I know that we can't start with the fundamentalist in either religion, and they won't change overnight. I believe however, that the time is not far of, when there will be little choice but to learn respect and trust. Eventually we must learn the truth that we are all one. Blessings.
• Portugal
24 Mar 10
i dont think these issues will resolve themselves with dialog. People's beliefs are just too opposed to one another. And reason in these matters is out the window as soon as someone justifies any claim simply because it is written in a supposedly holy book. Or because of some sort of personal revelation. Remembering george carlin people should just keep their religion to themselves. This would have been a great commandment. About hell: i know a lot of people dont believe in hell, however it is explicitly written in the bible. I find it difficult to understand how these people claim the bible to be the word of god, consequently the Truth (although with some metaphors (btw hell clearly is not a metaphor) ), and then simply say i dont believe in this or that passage. Seems to me they are just making stuff up as they go along and however it suits them.
• Philippines
22 Mar 10
I agree with what you have said. Most sites in the internet would always prohibit discussions about religion. I believe we could discuss religion with respect as long as it is done in a nice manner and is non-judgmental. An ideal conversation would be sharing the similarities and differences of the religions being talked about. It's all right to present opinions about the other person's religion as long as it does not involve being judgmental, giving offensive statements, and most importantly, not forcing one's opinion on the other person. We don't need to accept what other's believe in and we can't force others to give in to our beliefs. It would be plain interesting to know other people's spiritual beliefs though and as you mentioned, we could learn from each other.
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@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
23 Mar 10
Hi EnslinPorter, Thank you for that excellent comment and we agree. I think that dialog is very important so that we can all learn how very simliar we are. When we don't understand each other, we are more likely to fear each other which can lead to wars and killing. No one has to change their religion but we can all learn to respect each other. Blessings.
• Philippines
22 Mar 10
Hello Pose, I myself avoid discussions regarding Religion, even in real life, I don't want to have discussions about religion. This is a never ending debate. This is understandable since each of us would want to defend what we believe in. I like to treat other people of other religion with respect, and as far as I know I am doing it already in real life. A have several friends from different religion, and I really like listening to their stories and faith and at the same time I like that they won't try to convert me or something. Asking someone to be converted to some one else Religion would be one reason of debate. I really like listening to people's own faith, it just amazes me, sometimes, I admire them sometimes I don't but if I don't I would just keep my mouth shut.
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@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
23 Mar 10
Hi red, Thank you for commenting and I don't think that we should be trying to convert others either, just discussion and respect. Blessings.
• Philippines
22 Mar 10
You are correct in your point Pose.. I really do believe that it is possible to have an open and good conversation about our religion. that's what I love about my friends in the office. We usually have religious conversations, since we come from different faiths. We talk about the facts, and we don't try to convince others about our faith cause that's when the arguments starts and people will get offended...
@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
23 Mar 10
Hi Ingkingderders, Thank you for commenting and that is what we need everywhere, respect and dialog. Blessings.
@jaiho2009 (39142)
• Philippines
22 Mar 10
hello Pose, I bet it is not possible to discuss religion without raising any argument. No matter how we tried to say with due respect to others faith,we cannot avoid issues that conflicts with other beliefs. As per religion differs from each other,how can it possibly be that every one here agrees with each other then. That is why,one of the most unending debate since the time memorial is religion alone. This even leads to killings and war,kingdom by kingdom and powers by wealth. If only we can agree to one belief and religion,then,this world will be a paradise to live in.
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@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
22 Mar 10
Hi jaiho, Thank you for commenting and I agree that this world would be a much better place to live if there was no conflict between religions. I feel too that we are entering a period in history when much progress is going to be made. I don't mean that we will be of one faith but if religion is to survive in this century, many of it's adherents will demand that we respect each other and live in peace. Those of us that are over thirty, and I'm more than double that, can remember a time, when no one expected to see peace in Northern Ireland, but it happened and it was because ordinary people rose up and demanded it. I'm not saying that it will happen in ten,twenty or even fifty years but I think there's an excellent possibility that it well. Dialog is what is needed and it can't start too soon. Blessings.
• Philippines
22 Mar 10
there are lots of other religion but mostly with the same scripture only with different interpretations. though there are other religions who try to insist with their faith, there's nothing wrong if we'll just take time to listen, we might learn something valuable from them.
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@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
23 Mar 10
Hi midnightbliss, Thank you for your comment and we agree. Blessings.
@megamatt (14292)
• United States
22 Mar 10
Religion is a very tricky topic to discuss even with the most level headed people. What we believe is likely to offend someone, somewhere. Some people take graver offense to things that are contrary to what they believe and thus that is where the offense starts. It is a topic that you have to tread around carefully and rather respectful. The thing about religions in general is this. There are no right answers. There are no wrong answers. Everything is open to interpretation. Yet, there are many answers that will cause grave offense to the most level headed person. I do think that people decide to go around these topics for a good reason. A few people who jump in and leave the wrong impression on everyone else. As with anything, just use your common sense and hopefully no one will get offended. Of course, if you're offended by something that is posted on the Internet by another person, regardless of the topic, then there are problems right there to begin with. But that is another discussion for another time.
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@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
23 Mar 10
Hi megamatt, Thank you for your response. I agree that it's a difficult topic for many people but my feelings are that we are not to judge another but rather show respect. In order to understand each other better we should be able to have dialog without contention. We can all be sure that the stories we hear about other religions are not all true and we may be surprised how much alike we are. Blessings.
@intelpink (163)
• Philippines
22 Mar 10
I believe that this is a good topic to discuss, thank you Pose123 for opening up this topic. For me, there are three reasons why it is really possible to discuss religion with respect. First, religion is a wide range of idea of beliefs and opinions about the life that a person wants to establish and the kind of future he or she wants to attain. Second, religion in its self is a good idea together with its ideas. This should be the idea of all religions, which I believe is true. Every religion should show love through respect and openness to one another to further improve one's own religion. This is because, there is no single perfect religion. But there is only one true religion. Third is that, it will prove that the religion that is open will show that it is an approachable and open religion for all. However, everyone must be firm in their foundational truths that comes from the Bible.
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@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
22 Mar 10
Hi intelpink, Thanks for coming here and I believe that we must have dialog if we are to learn and grow in respect for each other. Blessings.
@p3ks626 (6538)
• Philippines
22 Mar 10
It should always be like that if we discuss something about religion. But we cant just help it because there are other religions and their leaders who would put other religion down just to let people know that they are good religion but it is not so because there should be no contention especially if you are claiming to be a man of God. We also need not to defend our religion but explanation is better. We also need not to debate on our religion and prove it to others. There's actually nothing to prove if you know that what you are saying it true.
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@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
22 Mar 10
Hi p3ks626, Thank you for your response. Blessings.
• United States
22 Mar 10
Some people can discuss religion with respect but mostly it cant be. For instance if I told you Jesus was black would you have a problem with that? What if I told you Jesus was a man who evolved to a connection with God for periods of his life? What if I said the bible and Jesus, Christianity are not the only way to God? Hindu's, Buddhist, Muslims and others can access God too. People will try to say but the bible says this and it say that to try and make their point and get upset if you dont accept. My family our Jehovah's Witnesses and they get exsaperated when I dont conform with them. There so many different points of contention that cause discussion not to be civil. Its best most times to keep your religious opinions to yourself.
@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
22 Mar 10
Hi Sourceseeker, It would not bother me if Jesus was black or any other color. We know the area of the world in which he was born, so I think we should have some idea about that but I'm also sure it doesn't matter. I also believe that all religions lead to God and although I read the Bible, because it is the holy book that I was raised with, I do not take it literally. My faith is not based on the Bible alone but on my own understanding. I happen to believe in reincarnation but I don't try to get others to accept it but I would like respect just as they should expect the same from me. I do however, understand what you are saying here and know that many would not be as open minded. If religion is to survive in the twenty-first century, I think the different denominations and religions have go to learn to respect each other and life together in peace. The people of the world will demand it. Let's get some real dialog started. Blessings.
@snoopyfan (1312)
• United States
22 Mar 10
It doesn't matter to me what color Jesus is and I am white. I am not expecting to see the Jesus everyone paints in a picture. I have no idea what Jesus looks like just I will know Him when I see Him in Heaven. I also agree with you that you can seek God in other religions. It doesn't matter to me which religion people follow if it leads them to God. People just don't have to show disrespect to other religions along the way. I hope people aren't following Jesus based on the color of his skin. That would be really sad.
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• United States
29 Mar 10
I agree with everything that you just said. We should discuss our beliefs calmly and at the same time listen to others when they speak about their own beliefs. I think that people get too worked up religion and that's when the trouble begins. I am open to learning about other religions and discussing my own religion with others but if we do it calmly and being good listeners to others than I think we can come to understand each other even though we may have different religions.
@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
30 Mar 10
Hi ayumitakashi, Thank you for commenting and we agree. However, there are many who believe that they have to defend their faith, instead of just explaining what they believe and why. Often too they appear to be afraid to listen to olders, maybe there faith is not as strong as they want people to believe. As you say, we should be able to discuss it calmly but such a thought scares many. Blessings.
@Frederick42 (2024)
• Canada
18 Apr 10
Yes, it is possible to discuss religion with respect. One only needs to have an open mind. But many people tend to get disrespectful because they consider their path as the only true one. Such an attitude is unhealthy and such persons cannot learn anything from other religions. When we discuss with respect with other religious people, we can learn a lot from them.
@bird123 (10632)
• United States
22 Mar 10
Well now, we will never get through life without stepping on a few toes. Lots of love and kindness is good icying to cover it all. There are a million lessons to learn around God and religion.Interaction is the key to learning. Sure there will be drama and conflict when people are unbending, set in their ways, know it all, and righteous.With the drama comes learning and growth regardless of how things turn out.This isn't isolated to just religion. It's in all walks of life. Perhaps without the adversity, nothing would be learned. When they get to the point where there is no conflict then they probably no longer need the lessons.I love all of you out there unconditionally. If you show up at my door with drama, well, we will work it all out. Come as you are. That's the way I want it!! Drama and all, there is no one exactly like you!! You are special!!
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@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
22 Mar 10
Thanks bird, you are my kind of person. Blessings,
@uniqueorn (1011)
• Philippines
21 Mar 10
I believe that there's much to learn from other religion. And we only learn those things when we respect theirs by listening what they believe in but not necessarily meant to be followed. But if we are to be more keen about the different religion in the world, they all point out to one God.
@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
22 Mar 10
Hi uniqueorn, Thank you for an excellent response and we have to get more people thinking that way. All religions do point to God and we are not as different as many would have us believe. We don't have to think alike as long as we respect each other and realize that there are many paths. Blessings.