This Father Must Be A Psycho Case To Even Think Of This Punishment For Son
By pyewacket
@pyewacket (43903)
United States
May 14, 2010 8:34pm CST
I sometimes wonder like what the heck is going on in the world and with people. It used to be that parents might "discipline" their children by giving them a spanking, nothing more. I guess I was sort of a brat as a very young kid as I got my fair share of spankings, not from my mother or grandmother, but the "disciplinarian" of the family...my great-grandmother who took care of me while my mother and grandmother worked.
Well, today I heard this story of a 52-year old man, James Moss of Staten Island, who suspected that his 9 year old son stole some money from his wallet. So instead of a spanking, or maybe "grounding" the son" he punished his son by taking his son's hands and holding them over the stove's burner, causing second and third degree burns, also hit his son with a wooden spatula, then shoved his son in the oven and threatening to burn his son alive...like WTF???????
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local-beat/Dad-Accused-of-Forcing-Naked-9-Year-Old-Into-Oven-Report-93767454.html
I mean what kind of person even thinks of this as a means of "punishment"? Is is me or does the world seemed to be getting crazier, or are we just hearing more of such things due to the media?
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@ElicBxn (63235)
• United States
15 May 10
Well, there was a time when news was so bad that people could kill other people and get away with it...
There was a time where this would've been considered extreme, but also a kind of "eye for an eye" type punishment.
I'm not going to say I approve, I don't. I'm not saying it was all right then, because it wasn't.
I would hope we would have "matured" enough as a race or society to not do STUPID things like this guy did, but obviously we aren't.
So I hope this worthless piece of trash masquerading as a human is never allowed to be around children again!
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
15 May 10
It certainly seems that despite our so-called sophistication, we as a society haven't "matured"--if anything I think things are getting worse and we're going backwards instead of forward
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@nangisha (3496)
• Indonesia
15 May 10
Hi pyewacket......
My mom also spank my bud if I can not discipline me with word when I am kid, but they never spank me when I am teen. They use other punishment like not giving me money for a week or something like that.
Burn your hand child is totally cruel, and it will leave bad mark in his child skin, if you girl you will feel shamed if you have scar in your palm because every one will see it.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
1 Jun 10
Yes the father could have simply talked to his son that stealing was wrong but not to resort to this cruel and inhumane punishment, and yes, the son will probably be scarred for the rest of his life, not only physically but mentally
@thess0312 (442)
• United States
15 May 10
That's FOR REAL?! That is COMPLETELY inhumane. I don't understand how parents would be able to actually live with the fact that they hurt their children this much. I'm sure that this child will remember that for the rest of his life, and he probably won't even look at his father the same way. I feel bad if I even yell at my kids. My goodness, I wonder what's going to happen to the father now. :o
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
15 May 10
I'm just guessing this poor kid is going to develop a real phobia about fire and stoves in general. From the article it seems for now the father is in Rikers Island prison and held without bail...there doesn't seem to be any mentioning of a mother in this story so wonder where the kid is now?
@thess0312 (442)
• United States
16 May 10
Yeah, that is exactly what I'm wondering. I just hope that the kid is safe. :[
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@sid556 (30960)
• United States
15 May 10
Hi there Pye,
I know what you mean. I got my fair share of spankings as a kid too. I as a parent am not a spanker but still, never ever felt that I was abused because of them. This is out and out abuse!! I don't know if it is happening more or if we are hearing it more but I suspect that it is happening more. I know that kids got abused back in the day but this is just over-the-top. I think something this horrendous would have been reported and been big news even back when we were kids. I remember some pretty horrible stories. It just seems that these things happen more frequently now.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
31 May 10
Yes it does seem like we're hearing more and more of child abuse even though such abuse must have existed all along. It makes you wonder though what stories we DON'T hear about
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
31 May 10
Oh I know it! Some of these kids are just too afraid of what will happen if they speak out against the people that are abusing them. The little girl next door to me gets abused. I have witnessed it and reported it as have some others. Nothing seems to be done to stop it. What he does out where we all can see it and all the while knowing that it will be reported really makes us wonder just what he does behind closed doors! The cops have even questioned the little girl but only when he is standing right there and you know she down plays it all.
@celticeagle (159105)
• Boise, Idaho
15 May 10
Ya, WTF?? for sure! I have heard of this for decades! I really believe that these type of people are actually angry about something else in their lives and are taking it out on their poor children. Regardless I think that someone needs to show them the same treatment and then see how they feel. Any takers?!
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
15 May 10
I can't help thinking there's a lot of "anger" now in the world in general, a lot of negative energy. I'm just betting the father may have abused an animal in his childhood, as most people who abuse animals usually abuse children.
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@celticeagle (159105)
• Boise, Idaho
15 May 10
Well, but the abuse of animals is also something that serial killers enjoy. Several things that are universal with all of them. It grows and changes over time. Abuse of the helpless seems to be enjoyable for these non-caring types. Many tend to disagree with me but I think there is good in EVERYBODY and something went wrong somewhere.
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@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
15 May 10
Hey pye~ Another really sicko father that needs to stay in jail
for child abuse and hopefully will never see his son again! And
again, where was the boy's mother when all this sickness was
taking place? WTF is wrong with this world? And thank God he
was taken to the hospital, but by who? Did the father take him?
Somehow I doubt it! And at least he did confess to this haneous
crime and thankfully didn't turn on the oven! I just don't even
know what to say anymore! I just get sick when I hear these
stories and can't believe that these people have children! I
hope that this child will be able to be given to a nice family
who will be able to help him forget the torment he has already
gone through! I pray for this poor little boy!
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
15 May 10
There doesn't seem to be any mentioning of the mother and where she was in all this, and I wonder who has the kid now, unless he's going to a foster home for now--I think this sickos punishment should be the same ....hold HIS hands over the burner
@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
15 May 10
Oh! I am so for an "eye for an eye"! I wish that they would
do the same punishment to this man! But, sadly they never do
and I just pray that they never give the boy back to him no
matter what! He probably is in "protective custody" at the
moment, but depending on that state's law it might only be
temporary!
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@BarBaraPrz (45498)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
15 May 10
Well, there's obviously something wrong with the father. I hope he gets effective treatment.
As for the son, I hope he heals emotionally as well as physically, so that he doesn't repeat the cycle of violence when he gets older.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
1 Jun 10
It makes you wonder if the father was brutally abused as a kid, since abuse usually does run in families...and yes, hope that kid gets some good counseling...he really will be "scarred" emotionally and physically for a long time
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@reckon21 (3479)
• Philippines
15 May 10
OMG...this is really a horrible news and i also opened the link and read the whole story. I can understand the fathers feelings but it is something that should not be that harsh because after all it is just a boy for God's sake. Some kids just make mistake but it doesn't meant he should be severely punished in a terrible way.
I think he is not the real father at all because he is heartless. He has no conscience and no love for the boy. Burning the boys hands over the stove is already a nightmare and the trauma would be great. I just hope the boy can recover and not grow up like his father.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
31 May 10
I hope the son recovers too and doesn't become abusive himself to his children when he gets older...that kid is going to need a LOT of psychiatric counseling to over come the trauma.
@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
15 May 10
It is not punishment, it’s torture and this 'father' would have to be a mentally disturbed individual to even contemplate inflicting such so called punishment on a nine year old child! I don’t believe in spanking so you can imagine how I feel about a story like this one! The idea is to teach kids to do better when they misbehave but all that this psychotic father has managed to do is physically badly hurt his son and traumatise him so that he may grow up to be a crazy individual like he is! I hope the authorities rethink this boy’s living arrangements and some other kind soul takes the child in... That is my prayer.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
31 May 10
Yes unfortunately, the kid himself may become an abuser..something like this usually does run in families and makes you wonder if the father was abused himself
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@ifa225 (14364)
• Indonesia
15 May 10
oh myy...that is terrible. he against the law of human rights. my son ever steal my money too, he is 9 yo. i catch him in the act. But I just nagging at him and give him a story about how bad being a thief.
what the man did is not a punishment. maybe the world has gone crazy because we often watch violence movie. It planted unconsciously in our deep mind and comes whenever we meet some hard situation.
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
31 May 10
Abuse often runs in families though so it makes you wonder if the father was also abused as a child
@garychie (157)
• Philippines
15 May 10
Oh my God!This is the most horrible kind of punishment I ever heard especially from a father to his own son. The father must be some kind of a monster to almost kill his son with his way of punishment only because of those few bucks stolen from his wallet. I do have my shares of spanking from my parents but never reached to a point where they gave me horrible degrees of burns.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
31 May 10
It's unfortunate though, we're hearing a lot more abuse to children by their own parents...but even this was an extreme case
@frontvisions101 (16043)
• Philippines
15 May 10
That's over the line. I've had some share of spanking too when i was a kid but i thought that was enough to make me come to my senses. But this father is just crazy. It's not called discipline anymore. That's battering his son. It's way over the line.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
31 May 10
Yes this is way over the line in his "idea" of punishment
@umabharti (3972)
• India
15 May 10
hi,Anger is something which is not be there .It should be controlled.Parents with no attachment to their children behave so.Punishments will be severe.I feel sorry for the kid.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
31 May 10
As far as I know the father is already in Riker's Island prison but don't think he's had a trial yet to officially punish him.
@SViswan (12051)
• India
15 May 10
I'm hearing more and more such cases....it could be because of the media and things are coming out in the open....I can't be sure of that, though.
I'm seeing a lot of parents around me being irresponsible, harsh...brutal...etc.
I don't know what's come of this world. Everyone seems to have so much pent up negative energy and the easiest target seems to be the children!
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
15 May 10
yes the media might be the reason we hear more abuses towards children (and animals) than before, but yes, maybe what is going on too, is a lot more "negative" energy out there in the world, if that makes any sense
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
15 May 10
I think it was better when parents felt they could spank their children.All these alternatives are dangerous.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
15 May 10
That's the problem though, many parents are scared to spank kids since people might cite "abuse"--but certainly better than what this father did
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
15 May 10
That is too much of a punishment metered out to a young child. He is thieving without really understanding the repercussion of his actions and it is up to the parents to instill good behavioral discipline but not in ways that might inflict injuries on the child. My sons took (not steal) my money from my purse when they were kids and upon questioning they admitted taking them. I told them that taking anything from others without permission is considered stealing and when they make a habit out of it, they will land in big trouble in future. And that they will be put behind bars. And that was the first and last of them doing such act.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
15 May 10
I can't help thinking that this is what the father should have done, just simply sit down with his son and tell him what he did was wrong instead of "flying off the handle" and no doubt has an anger issue problem to make him flare up like this and do this to his son
@writersedge (22563)
• United States
31 May 10
An evil nut case would think of this.
Even when I taught inmates and we thought they stole, we didn't do anything this bad. We put laxatives in chocolate bars so we could find out which one or ones stole or were in on it.
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
15 May 10
HI pywacket oh my that's 
just sickening how could anyone sane be that cruel. and over some damned money. The man must indeed be insane as no sane person could do that to his own child. spanking maybe but to deliberately burn that child.You do know what the real punishment should be,make him stand with his damned hand over a lit burner for 120 seconds so he can maybe realize what a fiend he is and then stuff him in an oven and make him think he will be roasted alive. sounds gruesome but thats what he did to a poor little boy. Maybe the world is getting nuttier every day. oh that was so horrid. I hope he never gets to be around that child again ever. He needs to rot in jail. I wonder where the mom was in this case, or maybe the insane dad did away with her too. could be.
just sickening how could anyone sane be that cruel. and over some damned money. The man must indeed be insane as no sane person could do that to his own child. spanking maybe but to deliberately burn that child.You do know what the real punishment should be,make him stand with his damned hand over a lit burner for 120 seconds so he can maybe realize what a fiend he is and then stuff him in an oven and make him think he will be roasted alive. sounds gruesome but thats what he did to a poor little boy. Maybe the world is getting nuttier every day. oh that was so horrid. I hope he never gets to be around that child again ever. He needs to rot in jail. I wonder where the mom was in this case, or maybe the insane dad did away with her too. could be.@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
15 May 10
There doesn't seem to be any mention of a mother anywhere. If there is maybe he was abusive to her too? Anyway, no matter what "crime" a child does, no child deserves this kind of punishment
@cerebellum (3863)
• United States
15 May 10
Today kids aren't disciplined enough but this is cruel and unusual punishment. How could anyone hurt their own child like that? I don't have any children and I can't imagine doing that to a child. I wouldn't even do that to my pets! I wonder where the mom was when all this was going on. Maybe she is just as crazy as the dad must be. I think we do hear more due to the media, but people seem to be getting worse, on the news or not.1 person likes this
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
15 May 10
I think a lot of parents are "afraid" to do any kind of discipline nowadays as even a spanking might be considered "child abuse", but this father doing what he did to his son is really sick. You're right, I never even punished my cats through the years so can't imagine a "punishment" like this for a child
