Bachmann Offers Advice to BP!

@anniepa (27247)
United States
June 17, 2010 4:01pm CST
Here's what Michcle Bachmann told conservative Washington Post blogger David Weigel: “If I was the head of BP, I would let the signal get out there -- 'We're not going to be chumps, and we're not going to be fleeced.' And they shouldn't be. They shouldn't have to be fleeced and make chumps to have to pay for perpetual unemployment and all the rest -- they've got to be legitimate claims.” : http://www.startribune.com/politics/blogs/96442239.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUnciaec8O7EyUsl Whose side is Bachmann, as well as some other Republicans who have been voicing more concern for BP than for the people whose lives have been turned upside down, on? Does anyone else think some of them are so determined to politicize this disaster in the Gulf and to find anything to make President Obama and other Democrats look bad they're willing to be seen as the defenders of the oil company with the worst safety record ever? Annie
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@sid556 (31006)
• United States
18 Jun 10
Hi Anniepa, As always the politcals jump in to a crisis such as this and use it to play the blame game. I am sure BP did not intend for this to happen. I am sure that in cutting corners as they did, they did not foresee any such horrific disaster coming their way. It was not deliberate...it was an accident. So when a major car accident occurs does the fact that it was an accident make it the person responsible any less liable? Heck, even when the person is driving safely, road conditions may cause him to slide into the next lane....Still his fault and he is liable. BP is responsible for this mess. The best way for them to rise above it would be to accept responsibility and do all they can to help fix the problem, reimburse those whose lives have been torn apart and learn from it and make sure that no such disaster ever happens again. This should not be a political victory for anyone on either side.
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• United States
18 Jun 10
I do think they should only have to pay legitimate claims on damages. I also think they should have to pay for all the clean up costs. that is fair. they caused the problem they should have to pay for it. But I don't think they should have to pay claims that are fraudulant or wrong. And you know those claims are going to come in. They certainly did during Katrina. People filed for help and money that were not even effected by it and got it. they saw a free for all on giving out money and jumped on the band wagon. So no they should not have to pay those claims. Why should they have to pay out on a claim that is wrong or fraud? I want BP to pay all legitimate claims and pay for the full cost of the clean up and not a penny more. That is fair.
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@iriscot (1290)
• United States
18 Jun 10
I agree Lil, I wonder if they will survive long enough to pay all legitimate future claims to the damage done to the enviroment.
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• United States
18 Jun 10
You can bet Obama and his sticky fingered buddies will find a way to line their own pockets from the BP Billion Dollar Fund. Obama will havee a hand in choosing who the Independent Third Party is who will control the fund.
@anniepa (27247)
• United States
18 Jun 10
Lil, I don't think anyone is saying BP should pay for fraudulent claims. I really don't care if BP gets ripped off but it would only be taking away from those who trly need the help. However, I think the only way to ensure that those who are really entitled get paid is to have the funds set aside for that purpose. BP definitely can't be trusted to just pay up out of the goodness of their heart, can they? Whiteheather, I can't remember his name right now but the person who will be responsible has already been chosen and of course the President got to appoint him, that's how it's done. Annie
@iriscot (1290)
• United States
17 Jun 10
It looks like Bachmann and that other jerk from Texas got together and were just trying to start something. How do stupid people like that get elected to office???
@spalladino (17926)
• United States
17 Jun 10
With large contributions from the oil industry.
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@iriscot (1290)
• United States
18 Jun 10
This may not be the right time to bring this up, sometime everyone here should check out the ties with the Bush and Cheney clan. Do you sometimes wonder why the Federal regulators were so lax in enforcing the regulations on the oil industry?
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@anniepa (27247)
• United States
18 Jun 10
Let's face it, there IS no "right time" to bring up something regarding the Bush and Cheney clan according to some people! There is certainly more than enough blame to go around in this mess and I think some of it will lead right back to the D1ck and his "secret" energy meetings. Annie
• United States
18 Jun 10
The Republicans aren't any more determined to politicize situations like this than the Democrats. If this disaster had happened while Bush was in office, the Democrats would have wanted his head on a platter. Both sides try to manipulate the situation to make the other side look bad. BP does have a responsibility toward those they've harmed; but, let's face it, disasters such as this do bring out the leeches. One of the reasons insurance premiums are as high as they are is because of false claims. BP shouldn't payout willy-nilly, but should verify every loss.
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• United States
18 Jun 10
Very well said!
@anniepa (27247)
• United States
19 Jun 10
Of course, every claim should be verified but I sure wouldn't trust BP to do it by themselves. I must admit, I never thought I'd see a discussion where both big oil and big insurance get defended! Annie
@Bd200789 (2994)
• United States
18 Jun 10
What is a legitimate claim to her? I don't see how BP is being fleeced. They caused the spill, and they should take responsibility for it.
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@Taskr36 (13925)
• United States
18 Jun 10
You're right, they should. The point is that they shouldn't just pay out every single claim without reviewing it. Otherwise you'll get some puds in states like California or Hawaii filing claims even if the spill didn't affect them in the slightest.
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@anniepa (27247)
• United States
18 Jun 10
I absolutely agree they must review the claims. I don't think anyone has said otherwise. Annie
@TTCCWW (579)
• United States
18 Jun 10
I am surprised that Bachmann was so well informed. She must have had a very "special" briefing before this comment. She is ussually a decade behind and informed by the National Enquirer. I am surprised she did not reference any Alien claims.
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@anniepa (27247)
• United States
19 Jun 10
Maybe she talked to Sarah Palin...lol? Annie
@artistry (4154)
• United States
18 Jun 10
...Hi there annie, Hope you are doing well. It is no surprise that the mentality of the Republicans is to be on the side where they think the money is. That's what they do. That's part of the reason we are where we are today, lack of regulating the big oil companies. In one of the hearings today one of the Republicans apologized to the BP executive for what was being done with the twenty billion dollar escrow fund, he later took it back but that was his true sentiment. He only apoligized because someone probably told him how callous he sounded toward the people on the Gulf coast who have no livlihood because of the spill. Tourism is down 50% and it is effecting the coastal town economies. But BP who I think made billions in one quarter last year is supposed to be the victim in this mess. I hope Bachman loses her race and goes away, somewhere far and takes Sarah Lee with her. They remind me of people commiting treason. Rand Paul wants to violate the 14th amendment of the Constitution and send naturally born citizens back to whereever their parents came from, would that include John McCain who was born in the Panama Canal region but got a wavier due to his parents being in the military? While Paul lies and says he is a certified ophthalmologist and the board says he is not certified. They are all such hyprocites. Deliver me. If Republicans think they can offend the Latinos, Spanish and Mexican people who vote, with the immigration issue and all the coastal residents down in the Gulf who are starting to be sick from breathing the oil and the dispersants from where they live and may suffer health problems on a long term basis, with begrudging them the benefits from BP claims, then I think that they will be very surprised in November. It portrays them as uncaring towards people for which I think there is a strong case. Take care of yourself.
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• United States
19 Jun 10
artistry your statement quote "send naturally born citizens back to whereever their parents came from, would that include John McCain who was born in the Panama Canal region but got a wavier due to his parents being in the military?" is stupid. Methinks you have no idea what you are saying.... send McCain back to where his parents came from is no threat as BOTH HIS PARENTS WERE BORN IN THE USA. His father was a member of the US Navy and was station where his country (USA) sent him. Of course he got a waiver as did every child born of American military personnel stationed overseas. In your comment to my response you rather insulting said that I did not have a clue regarding Obama's potential misuse of the BP funds. Seems many great minds agree with my thought however the only link I shall post to substantiate my suspicions is of the following article "But I’m concerned about politicizing the fund and want to make sure this fund isn’t used for special interests that would be of the president’s choosing. “We already had a system set up for claims that BP could have gone into and claimants could have gone to, but the president has bypassed that and set up a new system that is run by the administration as opposed to the court system. http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/bachmann-obama-spill-fund/2010/06/18/id/362445?s=al&promo_code=A1BA-1
@spalladino (17926)
• United States
17 Jun 10
Bachmann's lame attempt to defend BP is so ignorant but I guess that's what you have to do if you want to keep one hand in the pocket of the oil industry. I'm not surprised to see "politics as usual" rearing it's ugly head. The folks in the affected states did not ask for this.
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• United States
18 Jun 10
Obama was very clear in his Oval Office speech that BP would have a fund to pay off claims for damages and lost livelihood but the fund would not be controlled by BP but by an Independent Third Party. I do not doubt for one moment that Obama will have a say in who that Independent Party will be. There will most likely be so much red tape that Obama and his sticky fingered crew will make sure that some of the billions comes their way before any claims get paid out. IMO the Democrats do not need anyone to make them look bad they do that very well by themselves!
@iriscot (1290)
• United States
18 Jun 10
Have you been watching the news? Two of your Republican friends have already stuck their foot in their mouth over this situation. Talk about sticky fingers, check out Bush and Cheney and their ties to big oil, it goes way back in time.
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• United States
18 Jun 10
How do you know who my friends are?? Back in the Bush and Cheney days I was a staunch Democrat then Obama and his bunch of crooked friends came to completely disillusion me for ever.
@artistry (4154)
• United States
18 Jun 10
...whiteheather, Me thinks you make charges that you don't have clue about. What is this stucky fingers bull that you keep tossing around about Obama? Personally the man is a millionaire, he donates the money from his books to charity I hear. He gave the million he got from the Nobel Prize to charity, what's your beef with sticky fingers. That twenty billion dollars from BP won't be a drop in the bucket to help these people, sixty-five million people already filed claims. The people who live in the area, not working on cleaning up, but just live there are developing health peoblems like those who helped clean up 9/11. These people will no doubt need care for years and will not be able to work and may have to move and who would buy their properties, so money will be needed there. Where is this money that you think will be there for someone to pilfer? They need much, much more money than can be imagined at this point. So I wish you would get off your soap box about the stickly fingers crud. When the man leaves office, because he is one of the very smartest presidents this country has ever had, he will make millions, he doesn't need any chicken feed that you are talking about. I'm sure you won't but just in case, please give it a break.
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@dboman (457)
• United States
18 Jun 10
What's wrong with that quote? Would you support BP being fleeced? Do you want them to have to pay out illegitimate claims? Because people are going to take full advantage of this, both politicians seeing agenda and people in La. who are seeing dollar signs right now. Would you support the taking of every piece of property from someone who robbed a convenience store for 50 bucks? It's the same thing here. BP cut corners in the name of time and money (though the current government approved these actions), and they should be held accountable for the damage they caused...no more, no less. The ACLU represents rapists, murderers and the like to insure that their rights aren't violated. Who's going to insure that BP's rights aren't violated by a government who's shown that they have no regard for the law? Despite this administrations demonizing BP, they still have rights. Why do people insist on blood?
@iriscot (1290)
• United States
18 Jun 10
It's been reported on local newscasts that it is going to take a lot more than 20 billion to clean up this mess caused by the greed of BP executives. They were going to save 3 days in startup time by taking the shortcuts that caused the blowout. Workers who survived the explosion on the rig testified to that on TV. BP will likely take chapter 11 before this is over and you and I will have to pick up the bill.
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@dboman (457)
• United States
18 Jun 10
There is no evidence that "this mess was caused by the greed of BP executives" According to Heyward's testimony he had no knowledge of this, and expecting him to know of this is irrational and unrealistic. I have no sympathy for BP, but this is still America and BP still has rights.
@dboman (457)
• United States
18 Jun 10
"There's PLENTY of evidence this was caused by the greed of BP no matter what Hayward said." First, read the whole quote. Iris specifically blamed BP executives. Having a rather extensive knowledge of business and corporate structure, I can tell you that, most likely, neither Hayward nor any of the BP execs knew the intricacies of this oil rig's construction. Once again, I repeat, the measures taken were approved by MMS and so the actions should not be proved as willful negligence (which is the only way you can press criminal charges). If trying to save time and money is a crime, EVERY business in the world should be brought up on charges. We still have laws in this country, and they haven't changed. You didn't answer any of my questions.
@Taskr36 (13925)
• United States
17 Jun 10
I know it's easy to jump on the KILL BP Bandwagon, but they still have rights in this country and the government must still respect the constitution when dealing with them. Make no mistake Annie, Obama and the democrats in congress are treating this as a victory for those who are against drilling and are going to use it, just as every politician uses disasters, to push their agenda. Remember that it was Rahm Emanuel, Obama's own chief of staff, that said “You don’t ever want a crisis to go to waste,” Keep in mind that the original iteration of that came from Machiavelli, a real role model. EVERYONE in politics is trying to politicize this Annie on BOTH sides. It's what politicians do. As citizens though we need to hold them to what is legally appropriate instead of just cheering for them to shred the constitution to placate our anger and desire for vengeance.
@Taskr36 (13925)
• United States
18 Jun 10
Debater, I've told you many times that I want BP to pay for every penny of cleanup. My point is that this shouldn't be exploited by people like Obama to further a political agenda and that people can't be blinded by their anger in supporting anything and everything Obama wants to do.
• United States
18 Jun 10
Taskr, I not saying that this is what you want, or something that WILL happen. I am just pointing out that this COULD happen, and what would happen if it did. As you have already responded to my post you have seen that both sides are playing politics with this. The problem for Obama is that half of the people want to do something the other half want him to do nothing (and republicans just want to bash him when ever, and where they can). Obama realizes that BP could walk away from this and the tax payers would have to pay for this mess. So he did the smart thing, and asking BP to put money in a fund to pay for this clean up. Like I asked you before: Would YOU rather have YOUR tax dollars paying for this?