"Is that pop or rock?"

@ElicBxn (63235)
United States
March 25, 2012 7:03pm CST
So, today is the totally blind roommate's 51st birthday. The other visually impaired roomie asked her where she wanted to go for lunch as her present to her. D asked about Mexican food and asked about going to Taco Bell. The roomie told her "No, if you want Mexican, lets go get MEXICAN!" and explained about La Posado's in Pflugerville. She thought that was a great idea so we made arrangements to meet B, two of her four son and my guy friend, J, over there. Nice food, good sized portions and a FANTASTIC server. We had a nice visit too. B and a friend of D's had each given her $20 (B's in a Barnes & Noble gift card) so we headed over there. Of course, the bottom floor is all print so pretty much useless for D so we went upstairs to the audio/video dept. The roomie had never been up there before so she had to ask for a bit of help. "Hi, we're looking for a Benny Goodman CD" Blank stare. "Is that pop or rock?" "No, it's big band or Jazz" He actually had to go LOOK IT UP!! He finally comes back and takes us to the Jazz section and points out the two CDs they have available. One is $16 the other is $18. (The 2 CD set being only $2 more than the single CD - what's with that?) So, the roomie grabbed both and they came back downstairs. It's kind of unnerving to have one of the workers in the MUSIC section who doesn't know who Benny Goodman is!! What is going on with the world? Who are they hiring these days?
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@bellis716 (4799)
• United States
26 Mar 12
To that clerk, asking for a Benny Goodman CD would be comparable to asking me about any current recording artist.
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• Canada
26 Mar 12
I know. I don't know a fugging thing about modern music!!! Not a damn thing, and I don't plan to learn either.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
26 Mar 12
hi ElicBxn babies I mean young kids just out of college who think they are the smartest things going but anything in muysic over a year old they blank out.They should be hiring those who have lived long enouth to know big band music and Jazz.guess I am a bit bitter,my son has some twenty odd years experience as a c omputer programmer so hes got an almost fu ll time job but doing what he did when he first started workingputting in electronic parts at fifteen dollars an hour when he was working for twice that he made a big erroir in going to work for a new very smell comp any that had more g uts than real bu siness sense so they started going broke and laid him off now they wanted him back and he told themn where to put it and noi he wou ld not take another cut in pay from them either. He told me its okay mom its a job and right now a job is a job. lose it you coujld go two years again with uut a real job.they hire twenty year olds with no experience y et instead of me with twenty years of c omuter programming so whats fair about that? to me coming out of college they should start at ground level a nd work up and hire older men for the complicated computer jobs.
@ElicBxn (63235)
• United States
26 Mar 12
sounds like the same problem my guy friend, J, has... well, he wasn't programming, but he was trouble shooting line problems for Tracor, now he's doing temp...
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@Katlady2 (9904)
• United States
26 Mar 12
I know what you mean hon. Years ago I worked for a music store (sold CDs, records, tapes, etc.). I loved what I did, and was always listening to music on the radio to know the songs that were on the charts. Plus I am a big fan of big band music myself. But the manager would hire on these young kids that didn't know jack about music. It's pretty sad when someone is working just for the paycheck and doesn't care enough to learn more about the area they are working in.
@BarBaraPrz (45498)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
26 Mar 12
Who are they hiring these days? Plugged in babies.
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@ElicBxn (63235)
• United States
26 Mar 12
I wish I knew! maybe if I had been up there with my white hair it would'a clued the dolt in that it was OLD music...
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@bunnybon7 (50973)
• Holiday, Florida
26 Mar 12
yes that was a dumb thing for him to say. i mean if you work in a music store or anything like barnes and noble, you should be able to comprehend most of your area. they should hire older and younger. the young people know nothing about older music and most older people know not a lot about all the new music. i know i dont. my kids and grandkids usually have to explain some things that are new. and i explain to them about older stars and music
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@cerebellum (3863)
• United States
26 Mar 12
You would think someone that works in a music store would have at least HEARD of Goodman. I read something today that was written in the 50's and they were saying that rock music wouldn't be around long. Maybe in the future, young people won't know who the Beatles were either.
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• Canada
26 Mar 12
YESSSSS!!!!!!!!! Next time you're in there, ask him who Enoch Light is, and see what he does. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha I remember being 12 years old (almost 13) and getting a copy of Benny Goodman's gold collection for Christmas. What an awesome gift!!!! I'm 30 now, and my taste in music baffles most young people. I am 30, and my husband's 65. Why? Because I've found that guys born in 1946 or prior, have a better grasp of what good music sounds like. LOL As I respond to this, I'm listeing to Enoch Light and the Light Brigade (remember them?) performing hits of the 1920's. VERY HARD TO FIND! But seriously, is that pop or rock? I hope you reported him to his manager! I would have. Tell roomie that she has a GREAT taste in music! What's her favourite Benny Gooman song?
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@ElicBxn (63235)
• United States
27 Mar 12
I don't know Enoch Light, but I know Benny Goodman because of my folks. I don't know what is her favorite one, I was reading off the titles in the car (we WERE sitting at Sonic) and she kept saying "YES!" I guess the secret is that totally blind 50+ yr olds will like stuff that 20 somethings don't...
@AmbiePam (85538)
• United States
30 Mar 12
That is hilarious! That's like asking where Gone with the Wind is and getting blank stares.
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@cher913 (25782)
• Canada
26 Mar 12
its just the younger generation. we had a young university student here for lunch after church yesterday and he didn't know who Ernest Hemmingway was! i was pretty shocked! pretty sad, really. i guess its up to us to teach these kids.
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@ElicBxn (63235)
• United States
27 Mar 12
What are they teaching them in lit class these days? If I had to dredge my way through "Old Man and the Sea" they should have to!
• Israel
7 Apr 12
I really don't see what the big deal with Hemingway is. He did have a unique form of writing without using a lot of words, but the content was all ode to his pen!s.
@Loverbear (4918)
• United States
26 Mar 12
I hate to tell you how many times I have had to explain who someone famous is. If it isn't the current popular people, then there isn't anyone who knows who they are. It also happens with crafts and more. You also need to realize that people don't bother to learn about things that are involved with their job. When I was working the camera department in the retail establishment I worked in before I had to go on disability, I had subscriptions to photo magazines and would read them cover to cover each month, learning everything I could about my job. I was the most popular person in that camera department. I still remember a fellow employee that was in the department when I had someone come to me about lenses for his camera. I made a couple of calls and found another store that carried them. I told the customer about the lenses and the store and the customer went away happy. The other employee chewed me out for sending the customer someplace else for the items he wanted and we didn't carry. I couldn't get through to her that it would be good for business, which it was. The customer came back for film and developing. He would only deal with me! And if he had problems with his pictures or camera I was able to help him out. But the gal that chewed me out never got the concept of doing for the customer and they would come back to the store that went the extra mile for them. She also didn't understand about learning about your job so you could better help the customer. Learning about the department is a LOT of work, and anymore people just don't want to put in the extra work for their job. Also, remember, that people no longer stay in the same job until they retire. The average time spent in one job is probably about two years. It's even shorter with low paid employment. We have reached the point that our expectations are lower than they were years ago. We don't expect that the employee is going to really help the customer, that the employee is going to learn about the job, and that there will be loyalty to the employer. We live in a high tech high energy era where it is easier to up and quit and find another job and if you can't find a job it is acceptable to go on unemployment. Younger hires expect to have far better pay and better benefits than we expected years ago. We knew, back "then" that if we wanted to keep our jobs we HAD to go to work. We didn't call in sick because we wanted to go to the beach or go skiing. We did what it took to keep the job and did whatever extra duties that the boss wanted us to do. Now it's "That isn't in my job description!" Should I continue. We're our parents now, in a world that is advancing at a furious rate! We expect better service like we received years ago, and it just isn't happening anymore with the advent of the internet and shopping online. Store clerks feel that there is no reason to bother because the people can buy it online anyhow. Consumers are buying online more because of the fact that clerks in the stores are surly and uninformed. It's a no win situation. Also, if you do run into a clerk that spends the extra time helping a customer out, the boss is on them like a cheap suit stating that they can't spend so much time on one customer, that there are many others that need their help too. It's a vicious circle that there is no way out of, including not having people know about some of the things from the past.
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@ElicBxn (63235)
• United States
27 Mar 12
I totally agree! I did have some good help with the books by the young man who helped me, but really all he needed to do was put me in the right area and I found the books.
• Israel
7 Apr 12
@LoveBear You are the kind of person I like to deal with when I shop. I either know what I want or need to buy. I want a sales person who can direct me to exactly the right item. I remember way back in the 80's I was buying a microwave at the microwave store. I had one and only one requirement. It had to be under a certain size to fit into the very limited space I had in my microscopic kitchen. I didn't care about color or functions. Well back then they were all white and limited in functions, but the few choices that were available were irrelevant if the microwave wouldn't fit in the space. The yahoos at the store kept showing me small microwaves that were a tiny bit to big. When I pointed out that microwave after microwave was to big they would respond it's just an inch bigger or some stupid thing like that. I had to explain again and again that it won't fit if it's an inch to big. I really made them angry that I wouldn't just buy whatever they wanted to sell. If there was another place selling microwaves, I would have gone there, but this was the old days when general appliance stores didn't sell microwaves. I ended up taking a ton of their time to find the dimensions of every microwave until I found one that would suit me. grr. How hard is it to give the customer what they want.
@GreenMoo (11834)
26 Mar 12
I've got to be honest, I haven't a clue who Benny Goodman is either. But in my defence, I don't sell music for a living.
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@ElicBxn (63235)
• United States
27 Mar 12
he was a Big Band big deal... more my mom's type of music than mine (the Beatles ya'know) but I at least know who he is!
26 Mar 12
Hi Elic, it depends how old this person is because young people these days don't know what music is, it just noise to them now, that what they know about, I love Benny Goodman music. Tamara
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@ElicBxn (63235)
• United States
27 Mar 12
I didn't go up with them, I was looking for a couple of books I had been talking to Maggiepie about and she kept saying "You're making this up!"
@TheCatLady (4691)
• Israel
26 Mar 12
It's called the generation gap. Some day those kids will be talking about a famous musician to a younger person and that person will be going HUH? Who? What? Yup. It will happen. Some day they too will be an old fart like us.
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@ElicBxn (63235)
• United States
27 Mar 12
Yeah... I was listening to Prince, When Doves Cry, and thinking... that's on an oldies station now! YIKES! What's even scarier is that, at 58, I know all the words!
@ElicBxn (63235)
• United States
30 Mar 12
I can't say I really LIKED Prince, but they were on the radio and MTV... and... well, some of them aren't TERRIBLE...
• Israel
27 Mar 12
I never liked Prince. I was into other groups back then.
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• United States
27 Mar 12
I really do not find it at all surprising that the clerk did not know who Benny Goodman is nor do I think he (or she) needed to know. He or she is working for (most probably) minimum wage, so why should he or she learn what kind of music certain artists perform, especially if they are not "popular" music ("popular" as in they do not get many people asking about them)? As long as the clerk knew how to find the artist, which he did, then that is all that I would expect.
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@ElicBxn (63235)
• United States
30 Mar 12
I suspect that Barnes and Noble pays a bit more than minimum (maybe not a lot, but a bit) and I see the same clerks in there so it can't be TOO bad. But to NOT know that Benny Goodman, since he really is pretty famous even among the younger crowd, remember the "swing" fad of a few years ago? Besides, he really didn't want to look it up until the roomie started pressuring him.
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• United States
2 Apr 12
eh.the counter people at music stores nowadays aren't very rounded in their musical knowledge.nothing exists to them outside of whatever they listen to. i remember years ago going to the local store,and they had removed the KISS section. "nobody wants that anymore". really.i'm in front of you.i'm asking for it.therefore.. long story short-they kept "the knack" section.the knack had like 2 albums!