Christian Atheism - the way to go?

@p1kef1sh (45681)
August 20, 2012 3:14pm CST
I am reading a book about Christian atheism which has made me wonder whether in British secular society this is not more common than we realise. A Christian atheist is someone who values the cultural heritage of Christianity, it's language, art, music, moral compass, sense of transcendence-without actually believing in God. Sounds familiar?
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@GreenMoo (11834)
20 Aug 12
I imagine there are rather more Christian atheists than there are Christians in actuality. Not sure that Christian atheists is the best term for such people though. Although it makes sense once you explain it, it's not immediately obvious what it means.
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
20 Aug 12
It's an apparent contradiction yet somehow seems appropriate. Many of us were brought up within a "Christian" framework and whilst our belief may be gone, the principles remain and form core values in our lives.
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@GreenMoo (11834)
21 Aug 12
I agree with you. It's how I would describe myself. We're describing someone who is culturally Christian I think. Many Jewish people I know describe themselves as having a Jewish identity but not a Jewish faith. It's the same idea.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
21 Aug 12
I thnk that you can apply the terms of many faiths that impose a set of standards on the way in which their followers live their lives. I am comfortable with the label - except that I believe in God but not Christian religion as it is currently practiced.
• Regina, Saskatchewan
20 Aug 12
Can I borrow your book when you're done? I didn't realize that Christianity was considered a 'culture' separate from a spiritual belief system. This is a concept I must explore..........
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
20 Aug 12
I think that it can be considered a culture Sparky. It has set the scene for societies for two millennia and it is only relatively recently that we have enjoyed the freedom to consider that there are other belief systems.
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• Regina, Saskatchewan
20 Aug 12
Historically religion has always played a part in culture. BUT, religion has always trumped culture when the religiously oppressed revolted. In my studies of world religions in uni, it was obvious that the two religions most prevalent in societies that were totally immersed within the culture were Judaism and Islam. I didn't perceive Christianity the same way because it became too easily fractured into other 'religions'. JMO. Would still like to know the book you're reading though.....
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
20 Aug 12
Christian Atheist by Brian Mountford.. Sub titled "Belonging without Believing"
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@ElicBxn (63252)
• United States
21 Aug 12
I think its way more wide spread than just Britain! I know some "cultural Jews" that have Jewish heritage, but otherwise in no way practice that faith. I know many people who behave in a way that fits with the mores of the Christian society, but, at best, go to church on Christmas and/or Easter, maybe. I know many moral atheists, and I know many, so called, Christians, who seem to see no problem with gossiping, or back stabbing, or sleeping around (Jimmy Swaggart comes to mind.)
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
21 Aug 12
Hypocrisy is rife wherever we might be and most of us have been guilty of it too. Trying to balance the values of somethimng whilst not believing in it comes surprisingly easy when it is ingrained into our society.
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• Australia
21 Aug 12
Is this the antonym to Deism, the belief in God while disregarding scripture and religious structure? Anyway, I am not surprised by this concept; it seems more palatable than to assume that so many Christians are merely hypocrites. Lash
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
21 Aug 12
I have to agree with you. A gentle idea and in many respects entirely acceptable.
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@bhanusb (5709)
• India
21 Aug 12
Hi pIke, I don't believe a Christian can be a atheist. A Christian believes in God, but an atheist does not. An atheist can value the cultural heritage of Christianity. I think an atheist values the cultural heritage of all religions. An atheist does this with neutrality.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
21 Aug 12
I am not so sure that atheists value the cultural heritage of all religions. But there does seem to be an apparent contradiction in the term.
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@RawBill1 (8531)
• Gold Coast, Australia
25 Aug 12
Christian Atheism hey! The mind boggles! I would never have put those words together to describe someone yet it fits quite well with many Australians who have no organised religious beliefs, yet uphold many Christian values.
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
25 Aug 12
I think that the term it fits quite well for those of us that don't necvessarily believe but live out lives primarily in accordance with Christian tenets. I put it in the shaving legs category because.... well why not? LOL.
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@RawBill1 (8531)
• Gold Coast, Australia
26 Aug 12
Well Jesus most likely has hairy legs and I cannot see him venturing into a waxing salon too soon, so shaving them might be his only option as I hear that he is a mad cyclist!
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@RawBill1 (8531)
• Gold Coast, Australia
25 Aug 12
Umm, hang on....what does this have to do with shaving one's legs P1key? Yes I did add it as an interest though as my left knee has been shaved once for surgery!
@pumpkinjam (8547)
• United Kingdom
21 Aug 12
That sounds like me and other people I know. Well, I don't have any specific neloefsbin anything. Nor do I particularly not believe in anything. I do, however, respect the Christian heritage. Although a lot of "Christian" cultural heritage is not Christian but that's another discussion! I think we all ought to value cultural heritage, whatever our own beliefs and things.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
21 Aug 12
I think that it sounds like many people here Pumpkin. Interestingly, the author is an Anglican Vicar.
• United Kingdom
21 Aug 12
I'm not quite sure how I got "neloefsbin". It was meant to say beliefs. I was typing on my 'phone without my glasses on and my 'phone was dark because the battery was going. Yes, that'll do for an excuse. :) In my experience, Anglicans tend to be more open-minded than certain other denominations. (I mean, there are open- and closed-minded people within any belief system, culture, etc. but I'm just saying that this is in my own experience)
• Canada
28 Aug 12
That's really interesting. I had never thought of that. I know a lot of people like that. I am Christian, but don't wear my faith on my sleeve becUse I prefer to worship privately.
@urbandekay (18278)
17 Oct 12
"A Christian atheist is someone who values the cultural heritage of Christianity, it's language, art, music, moral compass, sense of transcendence-without actually believing in God." You mean a bogus individual that haunts God's bones. A sad and confused individual, with no morals but fashion all the best, urban
@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
20 Aug 12
I thought it did but then I saw the interest in which yu have posted it and...
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
20 Aug 12
I coildn't find the religion group so decided that this would do instead!
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
20 Aug 12
hi pikey I really cannot see this as realityu as those two are directly opposed. an atheist is and atheist and a christian is a Christian,If God did not create us then how did all this just happen? nob ody can answer that. I am a C hristian myh son is an Atheist and we get along as I do not pu sh my beliefs.but i do have them and am not going to say I do not believe.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
20 Aug 12
The meaning is that the atheist lives according to the main principles of Christianity but does not believe in God. It does make a kind if sense if you think it through.
• India
21 Aug 12
Hello my friend p1kef1sh Ji, Well, with due apology, I submit that I had a belief that Christianity does believe in Almighty, am I wrong in my Notion?. Please do correct me. May God bless You and have a great time
@p1kef1sh (45681)
21 Aug 12
You are correct.
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• India
22 Aug 12
Hello my friend Ji, Well, so nic eof you for accepting my views and passing pleasing comments. May God bless You and have a great time
@mythociate (21437)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
6 Nov 12
Yes. I'm on a similar path I call Buddhist Christianity. I believe in G-d, but not the 'Hank Williams Jr. in the Sky'-character most Christian-churches promote. G-d is more like 'the power of love' (and Huey Lewis is pretty cool too ).
• United States
21 Aug 12
Wow, that is interesting. So basically people who are christian atheist want everything that comes with Christianity but not the God who is the reason for the language, art, music etc. I personally feel that is an insult to God.
• United Kingdom
21 Aug 12
It's not really an insult. I think it's more an appreciation of what Christianity has given. Surely, if there is a God, he/she/it would feel better that people appreciate the positives of a religion rather than arguing and mocking beliefs. Personally, I love to explore buildings like churches and cathedrals. Rather than an insult to God, I see it as a compliment to the architect.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
21 Aug 12
They would ask if it is possible to insult something that doesn't exist?
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• United States
10 Oct 12
As a Christian, I would like you to prove God doesn't exist. In th Bible and in the book of Romans Paul states God gives us creation of the earth to prove that He does, then our conscience and finally the law. The law is there to prove we need God and Christ because we are not perfect. It is a natural progression of things.