The Knives Are Out

@p1kef1sh (45681)
November 9, 2012 1:43am CST
In the Republican Party as the senior bank rollers react in horror at the news that despite all that money spent on securing a victory at the US election for Mitt Romney, around a billion dollars (think how much real good could have been done with that sum and the Democrats were equally profligate) he still polled fewer votes than John McCain in 2008. Now men like that don't back losers. The fact that they did suggests that perhaps it is a good thing that Romney didn't win. After all, these are people that he is really interested in...the 1% and they have been hit in the only place that they have any feelings - their pockets! The rest of the nation is of little consequence to such people. The world can breathe easy again and watch as the Trumps and Adelsons shake and vent their fury at the investment that did not give a return.
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@matersfish (6306)
• United States
9 Nov 12
I caught an O'Reilly segment last night for the first time in ages. He was doing his end-of-the-show mail-reading. The tone was about the Factor's coverage of the Presidential Election on Monday, Nov 5. Some people said he was very fair. Others said he bashed Romney continuously while promoting Obama. Others said he bashed Obama continuously while promoting Romney. Some said he was a zealot, acting too rabidly. Some said he was playing too neutral, when he should have supported a candidate. It's just amazing how different people can view the exact same thing and come away with conclusions that aren't simply a bit different but rather polar opposites. It is what it is, I guess. There's nothing to be done about it. To some folks, Romney's the epitome of evil. To other folks, it's Obama donning the tattered red cape and horns. And some people really think we can compromise? It ain't gonna happen. The people who think Obama is a socialist closet Muslim are gonna keep thinking it, and the folks who think Romney (any Republican) is a warmongering, greedy, heartless sexist and bigot aren't going to relent any time soon. And speaking for myself, I'm not gonna compromise what I believe either. So, breathe easy. Nothing's changed but the weather. And a raindrop is still a raindrop.
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
9 Nov 12
True. But the amounts spent are quite obscene when there are people starving in "the most developed nation on earth"!
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
9 Nov 12
Pikey you make such good sense too bad you could not have run for President as I would have voted for you. lol lol Yes we have lots of people starving and on ths streets but t his all gets swept away during the lection process. there should be no ho meless people on t he streets in our wealthy country but the one who could do something do not e ven see it.sad. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
9 Nov 12
So all those wealthy men and women and corporations that gave Obama money are wrong for doing so as well? Hatley, Obama has been in office for four years. Tell me, what has he done for the homeless, the businesses closing because they cannot afford his regulations, his proposed tax increases, the cost of implimenting Obamacare? He's given us an economy that makes it necessary for almost half of the people to need the government's help. And more will in the future as even more businesses close and lay off workers.
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• Australia
9 Nov 12
And it couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch of swine. I described the US system as a plutarchy last week, not that too many of the trogs on this site would have known what that means, but it is definitely the best decription you could find for a system in which the Presidency is bought and paid for. Lash
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• United States
9 Nov 12
Like the old guy said to Indiana Jones: Knew you'd come.
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
9 Nov 12
Not only the US but so many other supposedly democratic countries where governments are in fact the pawns not of the people but a tiny percentage of business folk whose narrow interests are somehow presented as being what is best for the entire nation.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
9 Nov 12
hi pikey guess my adult son is right he claims our country is run really buy the wealthy corporations who bought the president elect which ever he may be.I wanted Obama as the lesser evil of the two. Its sad we have deteriorated to this point where once we had presidents that had w rked for their money and not been subsidized by big corporations. I feared for our country and its relations with other countries had Romney got in power. where is the government of the people for the people run by the people now,this used to be our slogan., sob so b.
@bestboy19 (5478)
• United States
9 Nov 12
Why do you accuse the wealthy of having little concern for anyone other than their own? Look at the 4.1% on welfare. They have proven they care nothing for others by letting the government steal from hard working people just so they can continue to live on the dole and not have to be responsible citizens. Don't give me any bull about hard times. They've been living this way since Lyndon Johnson's "Great Society". What kind of return have the taxpayers gotten in investing in a government that panders to the 4.1%? The one percent's investment in Romney was a one time venture. The government's investment through the taxpayers (including the one percent) in the 4.1% is continuous and thanks to Obama, growing. How easily do you think you'll be breathing as that 4.1% increases?
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
10 Nov 12
I haven't accused anybody of anything. Simply reported what the papers are saying. I shall breathe just fine as I live, according to several Republican ex-nominees, in 'socialist Europe' which just goes to show how well read they are,
@bestboy19 (5478)
• United States
10 Nov 12
p1kef1sh, these are your words describing the 1%, "The rest of the nation is of little consequence to such people." Explain to me how that is not an accusation. Who are these ex-nominee Republicans in socialist Europe and what are they saying?
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
9 Nov 12
Now now, democrats love having all those folks on the dole, guaranteed votes. And just imagine, all those young single girls out there getting pregnant cause there's no stability in their lives and baby's daddy loves them, all the PP clinics will have TONS of money to lobby the government for more of the tax dollars. win win situation.
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@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
9 Nov 12
I, for one, despise Trump. Did you see that documentary about the golf course in Scotland a while back? That man is insane, treating people living on the land in that way. I'd love it if he was skint now..but no doubt he has a few more million dollars to fall back on, the creep.
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
9 Nov 12
Trump is an oaf in my opinion. No class at all.
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@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
9 Nov 12
I agree.
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@AidaLily (1450)
• United States
9 Nov 12
Money doesn't buy everything. It doesn't even buy happiness. It never goes with you when you die. In fact, it just becomes on of the things people lust after and crave. That is the problem. They spend all this money (both sides) to build up a person they want into office and if the person doesn't win, then they are well less than happy. With the amount of money both sides spent on this election, they could have: -Paid off some more of the deficit -Donated to schools across the U.S. for better teaching equipment -Fed our homeless (both civilians and our homeless vets) -Had a business idea and created more jobs and the list goes on. Of course the rest of the nation is at little consequence to such people. I have stated before that as long as they can make their money, then it doesn't matter. I could care less that have it or make it, but I do not believe in essentially crapping on the people who put you there. If you were able to make it to the top in this country, then reinvest in this country. They could have done so much more with that, like give any hard-working employees bonuses as rewards for being part of helping their company continue. However, they can breathe easy again, but one does have to wish media outlets wouldn't cover them through all their venting.
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
9 Nov 12
I agree. They should cap election spending at say $10 million (still too much really) and then spend the rest on good causes. Imagine if part of the election was based on who could do the most good with a given sum?! I can dream.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
10 Nov 12
How can one person have sufficient money to achieve that Debra. Apparently much of his wealth has been gained by investing outside of America and shipping work that could be done there overseas. Very noble to bankroll the military etc. But clearly an action with an ulterior motive. One that you seem to support. The nation ought not to require such actions and clearly is unable to afford to do it itself. in fact it sounds incredibly feudal. Kings would borrow money from individuals in order to ensure their rule was established and maintained. King Mitt? I thought that you dispensed with all that in 1776. He bought your vote then?
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
9 Nov 12
The mainstream media didn't cover it but Romney said he'd use his own money to pay for military spending increases he proposed. He may have meant it too, did you know he did not take a salary as governor of MA? He likewise did not take a salary as head of the Olympics. He also said he'd not take a salary as president, nor would he accept the pension. But then if they HAD OF REPORTED on things like that, he may have won.
@riyauro (6421)
• India
9 Nov 12
ohmy so much happening there? I have not been watching news or reading the news paper these days and I have no idea what all it happening on the other side of the world i mean your end. hope things settle. What to do this is all happening in the elections. things will calm down soon. Thanks for sharing and have a wonderful day ahead.
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
9 Nov 12
OK. The USA had an election for President. The current incumbent (President Barack Obama) won and the Republican nominee Governor Mitt Romney came second.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
9 Nov 12
I wish they did not have to spend so much on the election. I also wish that Obama had promoted a class war, pitting the blacks against the whites, the rich against the poor, the poor and middle class against the one percent, those who are for women who want abortions against those who want more children, and I could go on and on. I just hope that America will still have its two and more parties, and not turn into a totalitarian state like the former USSR or Communist China. I would be show more approval if the ordinary people were upset that Obama won, rather then the bankers being upset. At least the ordinary people would show more honestly. I am being excessively nice and tactful as you can see. Oh if they limited the money, they could have eliminated much of those "my opponent is jerk" commercials and just concentrated on those that showed how they would improve America.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
9 Nov 12
Sorry I meant to say "I also wish that Obama had not promoted a class war, ---etc. It is morning and morning is not my best time.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
10 Nov 12
Class war? But America is a meritocracy. No class there!
@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
13 Nov 12
Hi p1kef1sh, When an political party spends that much money and still loses, the knives are sure to come out. The Republicans must choose for themselves how they handle things but it might be wise if they started by working with the president for a change instead of going against him at every turn. A lot of people would see that as the kind of change they want. After an election is over, politicians need to work together for the good of the country. We are reaching an all time low in hatred and bitterness between parties, and that does no good for a country. The Republicans may have moved too far to the right as well and need to move back toward center if they expect to get back in power. Blessings.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
13 Nov 12
It will take a while for the dust to settle. But the Republicans will have to sort themselves out before thy contest another election.
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
9 Nov 12
hi pikey love the way you put t his and people in mylot whom ordinarily are sweet good natured people are either rejoicing way overboard or the Rebpulicrats are whaling away with bitter insulting words and I guess the mylot admins just close their eyes to this. I love the way Grandpa Lash has put it. ol. my son says both men are bought and p aid for by the big corporations that run most of the men in power anyway.I am glad Obama won and I say this at risk of being hit by one of the insults aimed at Democrats from avid vicious Republicrats. I am so sick of both parties snarling at e ach other and its funny as we are all Americans not foes from different countries engaged in war !!!!!!!
@p1kef1sh (45681)
9 Nov 12
I am pleased hat Obama won for one reason. I would not trust the Republicans in Government to plunge the world not war. Bush did it and I could see Romney going there too.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
9 Nov 12
Into war not 'not war'. Blooming autocorrect.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
9 Nov 12
So what are you going to do when Iran brings the war to us? They shot at one of our drones and the media didn't cover it until AFTER the election? Wonder why?
@bhanusb (5709)
• India
9 Nov 12
Hi pIke, whole world was interested about US election. Because US now lone superpower. Big election budget for a big country. But small countries also spend huge money for election. These countries have millions of poor people. The parties spend lots of money to win the election. But after going to power the party or the new government do little for the well being of the general people. I think regarding foreign policy Democrats and Republicans have the same outlook. So the rest of the world have no reason to be joyful for Obama's win.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
9 Nov 12
The US maybe the superpower but watch the Chinese. They are overtaking and already own many of America's debts.
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@andy77e (5156)
• United States
10 Nov 12
Actually, the 1% typically earn more off of democrats. If anything this is a clear victory for the wealthy 1%. However, one good point to be made is that the claim that money wins elections just simply isn't true. Despite the broken record repetition of the left that money buys elections, it just isn't the case.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
10 Nov 12
I absolutely agree that spending money does not win elections. Yet they persist in doing it! Clearly we know something that they do not!
• Pamplona, Spain
9 Nov 12
Hiya pike., Yes they do spend a lot of money everywhere and that goes for this Country as well they are talking to us about cutting back on this and that when they themselves overspent too way out is what I call it. They could have done so much good another way instead. It does hurt their pockets indeed the same as it hurts my pocket when I have to stretch the little money I have further and further every time I go to the Shops just like other people. Also to see them in their flashy Cars and they say the crisis is hurting them a lot. It is kind of funny to hear them say that yet I can hardly see them going to the whatever it is they go to on a donkey like their Grandads used to have to do he he he. Have to be light hearted about there is no other way complaining our way out of this situation will not help at all I think. xxx
@p1kef1sh (45681)
10 Nov 12
There is a duplicity in what they say a d do. 'Tighten your belts' said through mouthfuls of steak crumbs!
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• Pamplona, Spain
16 Nov 12
Hiya pike, I also take note of the Women Politicians who have a new dress or outfit on every day of the week and their Hair done nicely too and they for me are also talking through a mouthful of steak crumbs lol.xxx PS:Yes they say do this and that but they do not practice what they like to preach. Shame on them being Women they ought to know how tough things are especially when they go the Shops well again through mouthfuls of steak crumbs as they probably have somebody to shop for them he he he.xxx
@lacieice (2060)
• United States
9 Nov 12
All that money spent to lie about each other is disgusting. I propose that the United States pass law that political campaigns can only lsat 2 months and the money spent limited to $100,000.
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
9 Nov 12
See my reply above your comment. I agree.
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@natliegleb (5175)
• India
9 Nov 12
ya for sure and obama definitely needs to prove his mettle now or its time for him to pave way
@p1kef1sh (45681)
10 Nov 12
Very true.
• United States
9 Nov 12
Goldman Sachs was a major contributor of both campaigns. A number of corporations backed both sides. That way whoever won they still had our government in their pocket. Only a few picked on side or the other. Most smartened up years ago. If you own both ponies in the race, you can't lose.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
9 Nov 12
That's true but what a state of affairs that it happens.
• United States
9 Nov 12
I cringe at the amount that all the political parties (not just the Democrats and Republicans, although they do seem to spend the most as they are the two largest parties) spend on elections, propaganda, and other things. If they spent even a fraction of that money to do good rather than try to belittle the opposition (the latter would cut down on a lot of the political spending), then I think this country would be in a far better state. On the other hand, it is their money and they can spend it however they so desire, because that is their right and I also support that.