It's the school, not the mornings...

@dawnald (85135)
Shingle Springs, California
January 10, 2013 11:26am CST
So on Tuesday I had to wake Dearra up early even though she didn't have school. She and Cary had an 8 am orthodontist appointment. Was worried about waking her up, since she has been staying up really late while school is on break. To my surprise, she woke up right away, and she was actually cheerful. When I mentioned that, she said it was because there was no school. Usually, on school mornings, she is very subdued and grouchy. I know it's because she's dealing with anxiety on school days. I thought it also had something to do with her just not being a morning person, but this really shows that it's all about school, and not mornings.
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@wolfie34 (26771)
• United Kingdom
10 Jan 13
If you enjoy something, have enthusiasm then you will make the effort to get up even if you hate mornings, I can empathize with her, I hate mornings, but if it's something I like then it's no sacrifice, it's when you dread having to go somewhere that getting up is too much of an effort and you'd rather turn over and go back to sleep again. Do you know what aspect of school she doesn't like?
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@wolfie34 (26771)
• United Kingdom
10 Jan 13
The main reason I hated school so much was the constant bullying, and not from just the other schoolchildren either, it wouldn't be tolerated now thankfully but when I was at school even teachers got away with bullying and humiliating the children.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
10 Jan 13
That is definitely part of it.
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
10 Jan 13
Mainly the people. She does have a group of friends, and there are a few teachers she likes, but she really dislikes the majority of the people there.
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• United States
10 Jan 13
I always hated going to school, so I know how she feels. Although, it sounds like her school situation isn't as bad as mine was. If I ever have children--and I do hope to one of these days--I will home school them. I believe that they will have far more opportunities that way. That is true whether we are in the States or elsewhere.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
10 Jan 13
It's a combination of her anxiety, being a little "different", teenage attitudes, having strong opinions, etc.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
10 Jan 13
She's actually quite proud of being different, but it must still take a toll when people treat you like there's something not right about you.
• United States
10 Jan 13
Being different doesn't go over well in public school. I was smarter and more bookish than the students at my public school, and I know how well that went. It is easy to look at those people now and laugh, because they have done nothing with their lives and never will. However, it is hard to realize as a teenager just what a pitiful little drop high school is in the ocean of life.
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@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
10 Jan 13
yup it is. bad when they have problems at school when school is really to be a place to learn and to me that was exciting!
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
10 Jan 13
I was very introverted, but I was never afraid of school. And it was more the kids than anything. I never had the dislike of the teachers or the material that she has...
@BarBaraPrz (45498)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
10 Jan 13
Tells ya something about that school if she'd rather go to the orthodontist...
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
10 Jan 13
I think it's ANY school...
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11 Jan 13
No it's not the school or anything about the school. It's about Dearra. Maybe she doesn't like school that's why she's like that on mornings. Give her a good breakfast and a pep talk. She'll soon get pumped up about the process eventually. People are more fond of spending their time on things that they like. On a weekend they'd wake up early to do the things they like. Children go through those phases. It's about the time too. There's really no problem. It's normal for one to be grouchy and then pleasant on different occasions.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
11 Jan 13
yes, it's Dearra, but it's way more complicated than a good breakfast and a pep talk...
@savypat (20216)
• United States
10 Jan 13
This concerns me. When I was in high School I hated it, in the whole four years I had three teachers who were worth spending time with. The rest of my classes were like being baby sat, what a bore. But College was so much better, I love it. Now I don'tnow if this could be Dearra's problem, there are so many things that are hyper when you are a teen. And your family life has got to have been full of emotional ups and downs for all the kids, especially Dearra. Teen age girls have a special relationship with their Fathers. I'm sure you have thought of all these things, but please pay close attention to her needs, teen age girls can get into to so much trouble, serious trouble that can effect their whole lives. Blessings and prayers for you all.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
10 Jan 13
On the positive side, we do have a good relationship, and she does let me know what is going on.
@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
10 Jan 13
Same here! Specially this week when the kids spent their holidays staying up late and waking up late. It's so hard to wake them up in the mornings. They'd be so grouchy. But I do remember days last week when they'd wake up really early on Saturdays so they could get to their xBox!
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
10 Jan 13
Not mine, not even Naomi, who is the closest to a morning person among them.
• United States
28 Jan 13
I can relate. I would have stomach pains from September til about Halloween every school day. By October I had the routine.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
28 Jan 13
Lovely. In her case, it seems to be triggered around certain events (ie presentations).
@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
10 Jan 13
Of course, I remember struggling to get up for school, but in the summer when the family was planning to leave early for a trip, I was up and ready to go!
• United States
10 Jan 13
Not me, and when summer came around, unless we had plans, I would sleep in sometimes until noon.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
11 Jan 13
She's sleeping later than that!
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
10 Jan 13
I don't recall struggling with it at all, not until college, and that was mainly because I had a night job.
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@marguicha (215481)
• Chile
11 Jan 13
I never liked school either. I did like the university though so it wasn´t that I did not like learning. Somtimes the teachers do not motivate the students, sometimes there are bullies at school.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
11 Jan 13
There has been some minor bullying, but mostly it's anxiety.
@marguicha (215481)
• Chile
12 Jan 13
Is there a reason for Dearra´s anxiety, Dawn?
• Indonesia
11 Jan 13
There are lots of cases where kids hate school because they get bullied. I tell my kids to let me know if they ever get bullied by their friends so I can talk to the parents or the teacher to stop it. I am lucky that the school that my kids go to does not tolerate any type of bullying. Any kids caught doing it will get expelled. That gives the parents a peace of mind.
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@vandana7 (98834)
• India
10 Jan 13
Dawny, cary and naomi...do they like going to the school? Are they in better spirits on school days? Does Dearra have too much to study than she can cope with... was she always like this or is it her present stage...or is she bothered by some other student...or unhappy with the teacher...or unable to follow any lessons and is afraid to tell you for whatever reasons? Your discussions remind me of what I used to face...and I have just listed some of the reasons that I felt held me back in those days.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
10 Jan 13
They are not in that school yet. They are in middle school (which is where Dearra's problem started) and she is in high school. Also, they are all three very different. Cary's kind of in his own little world, but he likes it. Naomi is very vocal about what she doesn't like, but she seems to tolerate things better. Dearra is very sensitive.
@jenny1015 (13366)
• Philippines
11 Jan 13
I also have a ten year old son who can be grouchy during mornings. And it really spoils my day whenever I wake him up and then he would give me an attitude. So to free myself from morning stress, I let my husband "do the honor" of waking him up. But of course, that is entirely different if it was on a weekend. He'd be up early and would be by the cages of his pigeons to feed them.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
11 Jan 13
Two of three kids are hard to wake up, and when the oldest yells at me, it doesn't feel so good, but mostly I realize that it's just the age, and I don't let it bother me for long.
@jenny1015 (13366)
• Philippines
11 Jan 13
Really, lsjapdoit? So your mom must be having a blood pressure as high as 190/150 every morning, huh?
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• Indonesia
11 Jan 13
You have just described my childhood jenny1015 :))
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@alberello (4752)
• Italy
10 Jan 13
Well, get up and go to school or to work, or to another any commitment, I believe it is not comfortable for anyone. However, I do not think your daughter was excited about going to the dentist. The discourse of his anxiety about going to school, I ask: At school all right for her, or is there a problem? Strange that a person wakes up well to go to the dentist, and then other days make it hard to wake up to go to school. Having said that even when I had to get up early to go to school, I did not ever have gladly done!
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
10 Jan 13
She wasn't excited about it, but she was way more cheerful than if it were a school day;.
• United States
6 Feb 13
When you and I went to school, we didn't have the stress, bullying and peer pressure that kids have these days. It doesn't surprise me that's it's about the school. Not even I liked school much at her age but didn't have anxiety. I have anxiety now though and it's been with me for about five years. Some days it affects me more than others so I understand how she may feel. V started having anxiety in high school but didn't recognize it at first. When she gets it really bad, a really bad knot forms in the base on the back of her neck. Scary sometimes because I've wondered if it was a tumor but it subsides when she is calm and cheery.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
7 Feb 13
I don't know, I've heard from a lot of people on here, some older than me, who had the same kind of anxiety in school.
@lsjapdoit (651)
• Indonesia
11 Jan 13
Most kids do that. My kids always get up in the morning lazily for school. Once they are at school meeting their friends, however, they laugh and play vigorously. Don't know about you but I used to be like that too as a kid :))
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
11 Jan 13
She likes some of her classes, and she has a group of friends. She's OK, but she doesn't really like most of the teachers or most of the students.
• United States
11 Jan 13
I don't know, any kid that liked school. I had a very hard time with my son. when he went to school. But, he was bullied not just by other kids. Try to help her find something she really likes about school and talk about it, after school.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
12 Jan 13
I know how it is. MY younger son is the same and he doesn't enjoy waking up for school....but he's up first thing on a holiday. I think for him, it's the present school he is at. He doesn't like to go there even if it's not a school day and it's only the teachers working. I have to tag him along since I work at the same place.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
28 Jan 13
Dearra's not a morning person, but she doesn't like a lot of things about school too.
@AmbiePam (85538)
• United States
13 Jan 13
I was like that from K-4 through 3rd grade. Then I switched schools and all that anxiousness and sick to my stomach feelings went away. At least until I went to college. But by that time I had a better handle on it. I hope she can start to like school someday. I mean I never liked it. People always assume if you get A's you like school. Not so at all. Ugh.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
28 Jan 13
I hope so too. In college, at least she will have more choice in what to take.
@cher913 (25782)
• Canada
11 Jan 13
my daughter was like that last year when she did the victory lap in highschool (she graduated in 2011 but went back for another year just to take some courses she needed for college (where she is now). she tends to get stressed about school very easily so she was happier on the days she could sleep in. last semester (Sept til Dec) she was taking Massage Therapy and is taking a general course and next fall she will enroll in early childhood ed so it will be much less stressful for her. she did go to counselling while she lived at home and was diagnosed with anxiety last semester at college (it is about 2 and a half hours away from us) so she learning how to handle her stress. what grade is your daughter in? i hope she learns how to handle the stresses of school because as we all know, life can be very stressful and the sooner she learns how to handle it, the better. ?
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
11 Jan 13
She's in 11th, and she is handling it a whole lot better than she was a few years ago.
@blue65packer (11826)
• United States
11 Jan 13
I've never been a morning person ever though I have been! Alot of it has been not of my chose,either! Grwoing up on a farm I had to get up early to help with chorse before school. Some jobs I had required me to get up early. Believe me I am not a morning person and never will be! I am extremely grouchy in the mornings and it takes like two hours to wake up! Thanks goodness I have a job that lets me come in late in the mornings!
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
11 Jan 13
I get up because of work and having children in school. When those are both gone, I anticipate sleeping in at least a little every morning.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
11 Jan 13
I think that this is the way that it is with a lot of students. A lot of children really don't like school at all and it could be because they suffer from general anxiety, it could be that they are victims of bullying or it could just be that they really don't like school. However, when it comes to days when there is no school, these same children that don't seem to be a morning person at all are the first ones that get up in the morning and often the last ones to go to bed at night.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
11 Jan 13
Dearra likes very few classes, and usually it is because she either doesn't like the teacher or the students in it. Thank goodness there are somet that she does like.
@fannitia (2167)
• Bulgaria
11 Jan 13
I understand everything about the school problems and the early mornings but "an 8 am orthodontist appointment" . If she was able to endure this than she is a courageous girl!
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
11 Jan 13
I always do them at 8 if possible, minimum impact on work and school...