Would you buy Something Broken?

@GreenMoo (11842)
April 20, 2013 2:04am CST
We've been looking for a professional sized wood chipper for a long time, but they're hard to find and very expensive. We have just taken the opportunity to buy one at a knock down price, BUT it's broken. The clutch is broken and we'll have to get it repaired before we can use it. If we can fix it successfully we will have got ourselves an amazing deal, but if we can't it'll just be a piece of scrap metal. A bit of a risk! Would you buy something broken in the hope that you could fix it?
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@Paper_Doll (2375)
• Philippines
20 Apr 13
My husband usually buy scrap - PSP, computer, mobile phone, printers and others. He usually try to repair them or if no longer possible, he take and keep any part of the item that could still be used in the future.
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@GreenMoo (11842)
21 Apr 13
It's great to hear of someone recycling these things.
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• Philippines
21 Apr 13
Thanks, like what the popular saying says, there's money in garbage. Actually, some people we know make collecting scraps they way of earning for a living and they actually earn a good amount.
• China
20 Apr 13
To be honest,I don't know what the wood chipper is like.I wonder why you can't give it back or exchange it for another one.
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@GreenMoo (11842)
21 Apr 13
If we can get if fixed, we'll have a great bargain. I think I've identified the part now.
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• China
22 Apr 13
If so,it is a good buy.
• United States
20 Apr 13
First I would try to get an estimate of what it would cost a repairman to fix it. Maybe get two or three estimates. After that I would see if it would be cost effective for me to fix it myself or hire someone else to do it. Then I would compare the cost of repairs plus the cost of the item and compare it to the cost of a similar item that is not in need of repair and decide if it really is a deal to buy something broken. That being said, I have bought several things in need of repair at a good price and repaired them myself at little to no cost because I already had the tools and parts to use. The key is knowing your ability to repair stuff and knowing what it will cost you to repair the item. If you know you can fix it and cost of the parts needed doesn't offset the price of the deal then I say go for it.
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@GreenMoo (11842)
21 Apr 13
It should work out considerably cheaper, but of course the risk is that we find something else wrong.
@dragon54u (31615)
• United States
20 Apr 13
If I knew I was capable of fixing something and I would save a lot of money buying it broken, I would buy it if the cost of fixing it wasn't very much. It's like someone buying a house that's listed as a "fixer-upper"--you have to put some work into it but in the end you'll have a house worth several hundred thousand dollars for less than half the price, in many instances. My ex once bought an ice machine (he has a business and we had a LOT of company!) that was broken and he fixed it. He got it for $150 but if it had not been broken it would have cost $1100. It took him 15 minutes to fix it and we used and enjoyed it for years! I hope you get that clutch fixed with a minimum of work, cost, and aggravation!
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@GreenMoo (11842)
21 Apr 13
That's a pretty big saving on the ice machine! Just because someone couldn't be bothered to do it themselves. I intend to order the part on Monday, then we'll see how we go.
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• Pakistan
20 Apr 13
yes we bouht broken chair from a vendor and then fix it we safe money from doing this
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@GreenMoo (11842)
21 Apr 13
You can save a lot of money just because most people can't be bothered.
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• Philippines
20 Apr 13
I would rather not because it will just be a waste of time and also it will just be a waste of money since you will bought something broken and it requires a repair so why not just purchase a new one instead? But in your case, you've mentioned that it's kinda hard to find and a brand new one is very expensive, I would take a risk to buy it and just look for someone who could fix it for me considering that it will be something that is very hard to find and if I badly needed that.
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@GreenMoo (11842)
21 Apr 13
It is a bit of a risk, but we were pretty sure we knew the fault and how to fix it.
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@as2006 (5041)
• Israel
20 Apr 13
Never,always check before buy something,even when cheaper also not buy until sure that it's o.k.In some occasion when look not so good but can use it I can but it less then his price was but that all.
@GreenMoo (11842)
20 Apr 13
We've been able to test the engine, which is fine.
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@dagami (1162)
• Rome, Italy
20 Apr 13
i suggest that you take the mechanic with you so he can check if it can still be repaired. don't buy this unless you're sure that you can still use it. you might end up losing money rather than having an amazing deal.
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@GreenMoo (11842)
20 Apr 13
I have the chipper and I think i've identified the correct part. I need to order it on Monday.
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• India
20 Apr 13
I really wish you get the clutch repaired and that your deal becomes a success, but personally I would have chosen to buy something that is new and if second hand at least in a good and working condition. Buying something broken to get it mend later sounds risky to me. What if the cost of repairing is high? What if even after repairing the thing doesn't work properly? So, instead of blocking my money there I would rather wait to collect some more money and buy myself a working item.
@GreenMoo (11842)
20 Apr 13
There's no way we could afford a new one.
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@vanila (491)
• Israel
21 Apr 13
If the price is realy fine, and with my spare money, if it is something that is important to me and it safe to use, than yes I would bie it. why not take the chance. But my only question is why the owner of the chipper didn't fixed it for himself, maybe he tried and it is hopeless. but I guess you know what you are doing. so good luck with it.
@vanila (491)
• Israel
21 Apr 13
*buy it
@GreenMoo (11842)
21 Apr 13
I believe his story that he doesn't have time. The biggest task with this machine will be sourcing the part and having it shipped. We've more time than money, so not a problem for us.
@sharra1 (6342)
• Australia
21 Apr 13
No. It is false economy. For that matter I would never sell anything that is broken as I think it is unfair to the buyer. It is a risk. They may well be getting rid of it because the cost of the repair is too high or they know it is not repairable. If you had the knowledge to fix it yourself that might be different. I know nothing about such machines but if you had to have a new clutch installed, what would it cost? Have you spoken to a person who does such repairs on these machines to sound out the potential cost? Research in area like this are vital to minimise the risk. We recently sold our ride on mower because we no longer need it but we spent money getting it serviced and repaired before selling. It meant we got less for it but we sold it knowing that the buyer could use it.
@GreenMoo (11842)
21 Apr 13
the seller has been very honest about what's wrong with it, and my partner has been able to see the broken part and it ties in with his description of what happened. We researched the cost of the part before we made an offer too. It should cost us considerably less overall. And it was the only professional scale one we've found for sale second hand!
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@sharra1 (6342)
• Australia
22 Apr 13
Hmmm well in that case it is just a matter of deciding if you can fix it. If you are sure that you can replace the part, and are sure everything else is fine then it seems worth the risk. Machines like that are very expensive when new. Buy second hand is a sensible approach. I used to think that buying new was best. Then I discovered how much money is lost off the value the minute the papers are signed. Rather odd that just buying something can cause it to lose so much resale value even if it is never used. I do not understand why it happens but it turned me off buying new if second hand was ok.
@katsmeow1213 (29047)
• United States
20 Apr 13
Not unless it were something I had experience fixing and knew I could do it cheaply and successfully.. So that would be no because there's nothing I can fix! LOL Though people always buy cars that need work, or homes that need work. Did you buy it or are you just thinking about it?
@GreenMoo (11842)
21 Apr 13
Thankfully my partner is pretty good with working things like this out, so I'm hoping he can fit the part once I get it. The biggest challenge seems to be getting exactly the right part, and I don't want to get it wrong as it'll come from overseas and shipping is extortionate. We've already bought it. It's sat in the corner of the workshop looking at me accusingly because I've not ordered that part yet!
• United States
21 Apr 13
LOL. Well, hopefully he can get it fixed!
@joizee (502)
• Philippines
20 Apr 13
That's really risky. I hope you'll be able yo get it fixed perfectly ;) I would consider buying a broken or old car because I have someone who can "pimp" it. He's amazing in car repairs and restorations, so I would consider buying in a junk and get away with less money and devote the finances I have to make it sweet ;) I'm a bit of a cheapo so I would consider buying something broken that comes in a cheap price but definitely opt to buy a new one if it'll cost more compared to a brand new. Thanks GreenMoo! :)
@GreenMoo (11842)
21 Apr 13
If you have someone who can do the repairs I imagine you'll be able to save loads of money. My own experience with old cars is that when one thing goes wrong and get replaced, suddenly everything goes wrong! It IS a risk, but one I think is worth taking if you haven't the finances to do otherwise.
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@joizee (502)
• Philippines
21 Apr 13
That's what my husband has been telling me in buying secondhands. We could save in the buying price but the maintenance and repair cost would double or triple the money we've spend for it. Instead of buying a brand new, we can use the warranty for repairs and we can exhaust its full potentials to know the worth of money we spent for the product.
• Canada
21 Apr 13
i thought stores are not allowed to sell broken things. because a fews ago, i went into a store, and wanted to buy a mirror. the only defect in it was teh light of the mirror wasnt working, i didnt care about that, but they refused to sell it to me.
@GreenMoo (11842)
21 Apr 13
I'm buying it privately, not from a shop. Shops could leave themselves open to prosecution if they sell something broken which subsequently causes you an injury. With an electrical item, they can cover themselves by getting it checked out by a qualified electrician, but of course that costs time and money and is probably not worth it for a shop selling one broken item. That's was the case when I worked in such a shop anyway.
@peavey (16829)
• United States
21 Apr 13
It would depend on what part/how much of it is broken. In your example of a wood chipper, it would probably be worth taking a chance. Clutches can be replaced altogether if need be and if the rest of it's okay, why not? Wood chippers are expensive, that's for sure.
@GreenMoo (11842)
21 Apr 13
If it works out this one will have been a fraction of the price. Although we've been able to test the engine, and we've seen the broken part, the risk is if we subsequently discover anything else is broken. I know the guy from the local community though, and he does strike me as trustworthy. Fingers crossed.
@kukueye (1761)
• Malaysia
21 Apr 13
Fix with with reasonable cost. - Made sure it is fixable with a good cost and can be used for many years after fixing.
Your mean buying something second hand, well , your need to find out first whether it is fixable or not , then the cost of fixing it , and once fixed , how long it can last. If it is fixable and cost less. Why then the original owner want to sell it in the first place. Bring along a good fix it mechanic to find check out the machine.Sometime a too good to believe price is a scam and fraud so becareful too.
@GreenMoo (11842)
21 Apr 13
We knew what the problem was and how much the replacement part would cost. The major 'cost' is in the trouble it will take to source and fit the part. But we have more time than money so it works well for us.
@tinayu (214)
• China
21 Apr 13
if the price is very cheap,and the thing looks nice,i will consider.in fact,i have bought such things once a time.at that shopping, i took 16 dollars to buy a woollen sweater, a sweater coat and a shirt.the saler said that those clothes were all out-of-date but best qualities ,and sold for promotion.i picked three favourite pieces and just took me 16 dollars.i thought it was cost-effective.but when i came home and checked clothes carefully ,i found one hole in the right cuff of the sweater coat and another hole in the collarband of the woollen sweater.just you said, a bit of a risk.what i could do was to sew them by myself.hahha
@GreenMoo (11842)
21 Apr 13
So did you mend them? It was a good deal if you did.
@Cutie18f (9563)
• Philippines
21 Apr 13
I wouldn't, but I know many people will. I learned this when I had a garage sale and I had a number of broken stuff there like broken electric fans, electric stove, DVD player, toys, computer monitors, etc. I think these people don't mind having them fixed. The prices by the way are really very low, like it's just given away. Personally, I won't buy one that is broken. That's too risky and a waste to time and money.
@GreenMoo (11842)
21 Apr 13
If you know how to fix these things you can save a great deal. If you don't then, as you say, it's a waste of time and money.
21 Apr 13
My suggestion is ask first how much it will cost you to repair the clutch if it will cost as high as buying the new one better to buy the expensive than buying broke. I prefer buying a new one than broke items
@GreenMoo (11842)
21 Apr 13
the actual part is reasonably priced, but shipping is pretty high.
@GardenGerty (100504)
• United States
20 Apr 13
We buy used cars a lot, it is kind of the same thing. I would probably research repair manuals through the library or on line before deciding if I could fix it.
@GreenMoo (11842)
21 Apr 13
Yeah, if you have the skills to do it yourself you can save a fortune.