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My marriage is on the rocks. We are in marriage counseling now and after only one session I think I am more confused then ever.
Let me give you the short of the story. My husband came to me about 6 weeks ago and said he wasn't happy. He said that he wanted a divorce. I told him that wasn't an option and we talked through things. We told each other the issues we were having with each other. We both were working on them.
About 5 weeks after the talk our 4 year anniversary was coming up and we talked again. He said the same thing. At first I thought I didn't have a choice and said okay. I'll call my attorney and get things started. The more I thought about it the more I realized "NO" I don't want a divorce I want to work it out. I as did he promised to love the other for better or worse and I am sticking to that. So I called a marriage counselor instead. He was dead set against it at first and I talked him into going.
The result MORE confusion! He says that he doesn't know if he wants to try and work it out. Says that he doesn't see a future with us. I say we are worth fighting for because we were good together at one point. He uses the words "I don't know" very often to the point where I want to hurt him if he says those words again!
I just don't understand how you spend 5 years (4 years married) with some one and just give up. So my question is - HOW DO I SAVE MY MARRIAGE??? I know that you don't know every thing that is going on, but if you have been in this situation or know some one that was tell me about it. What are the things you do to keep the 'spice' in your relationship? I will respond to any questions you may have. Thanks in advance for your tips, input, opinions and any advice.
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| 31. pujiku (11) | 1 year ago | must any reason why you want to save or do not your marriage. communicate with your couple what is the problem.
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32. mommyboo (3332) | 1 year ago | Well, let's see. I have been married and divorced and remarried. There was abuse in my prior relationship though. My ex REFUSED to go to marriage counseling, he said that it was my fault I was unhappy or my fault that I had any problem with him. He would not admit to anything being even partially his responsibility. OH, and he didn't want any children. EVER. I would have gone to counseling, I was thinking about going by myself for myself to try and figure things out. I had gone from the point where I hated myself and felt like a bad person and a failure as a wife and a woman to realizing that he caused me to feel that way by projecting all of his problems on me instead of trying to figure out how to solve them. I'm a solver, if things are 'not right', I want to fix them. I want to see what I'm doing to hurt or cause a situation and take care of what*I* can do, know what I mean?
What kind of issues are you having, such as what subjects? My largest one that resulted in the divorce was his stance on kids, which was never going to change. That was the deciding factor for me. The other secondary one was the verbal abuse because it was not getting better, if anything it got worse and I was sick of it. Verbal and emotional abuse leads to physical abuse, he had broken things and started threatening my friends.
IF you can get him to go to counseling, together as well as some separate sessions, maybe he can come to terms with all this 'I don't know' stuff. He might be saying that but I don't think in marriages that people really don't know. They have an idea, sometimes the ideas are scary though so they just supress them. I will warn you, HE has to be influential in coming together with you to compromise and save this marriage. If he refuses to admit any responsibility and doesn't seem willing to make any changes in order to save things, it will not happen. There was nothing I could do to change my ex, if I could have fixed things by myself I would have tried!
As far as keeping the spice in my current relationship, we try to have a 'date' now and then, at least once a month, more often if the opportunity presents itself or we aren't so busy. We have time in the evening we spend together every night, we generally eat dinner together. We try to snuggle up often when the kids are asleep. It's really just about making the relationship a priority, asking questions, making sure things are okay with each of us on a continual basis.
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ebsharer (2474) | 1 year ago | I have always been the one that had to iniciate affection my husband isn't an affectionate person. I have come to accept that except for I do expect him to kiss me when he walks in the door.
He is willing to try the counsleing but again even after that he still can't say if he wants to work on it.
Our issues are pretty simple - he says we have grown apart. my response to that is of course we have - we NEVER see each other there is NO effort on your part - we have more of a marriage of convenious then any thing- we share a bank account and bed thats about it. He says that I b!tch too much. And he is right I do. BUT in my defence I do it because I am unhappy with the way he is to me. I b!tch about us not spending time together - he does nothing to fix that in fact he does just the oppsite and takes on more things to do out side of the house.
My husband is basically a good guy. He would NEVER lay a hand on me, he has never been verbaly abusive, we agree on our daughter and how to raise her. We don't have money issues. We don't fight about any thing but time. I don't get it.
The more I push myself to him the farther he goes away. In turn making me madder and more hurt.
I will accept his choice I just wish he would make the choice to work it out or walk away. I hate being on this yo yo string!
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mommyboo (3332) | 1 year ago | Ok, well I have seen you talk about things and changes you have made in order to try and get him to work on things. He needs to work on things and make changes too. First of all, the time situation. If he is always working or doing things alone without you, he NEEDS to make an effort to spend some time with you. I know that he would grumble and wonder how that would improve things, but it would. I am a grumpy crabby evil person if I don't get to see my husband. When our youngest daughter was an infant, he was moved to swing shift and it was so awful for me. I literally felt like a single parent. Between being a constant milk jug or having a tiny person SCREAM and having loads of teenage 'i hate you!' and 'whatever' from the older kids, I thought I might go crazy. I begged him to get back on days so we could have our evenings together and so he could see the kids, because basically he left for work while they were still at school, and then he got home at like 2 AM, when they were sleeping. He would be sleeping when they got UP to go to school and I'd be getting up at 5 am to make sure they were up and ate breakfast and then I'd drive them to the bus stop, go home, and of course not get to go back to sleep because of the baby. When I DID see him, I was so miserable that I was grumpy towards him which did not help at all. I didn't sleep at all because I would stay up till he got home, then I had to be up of course to feed the baby every time she fussed, and then I was up at 5 because of the big kids.
My experience was that all of the issues went away when he went back on a regular schedule and we had time together every day. I'm extremely selfish of this time, I mean he is my husband and I really need to have couple time daily. I know this about myself, I don't think I would ever be in a situation where I wouldn't mind. I'm not the type of person who would survive working different shifts, a deployment, long haul trucking, a lot of traveling for business, or things of that nature. Some people are built for that, in fact they thrive that way. I think something like that would kill me. It would not end the relationship but it would certainly hurt it severely.
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33. hiccup (6492) | 1 year ago | Im sure I mad comment somewhere to you about relationships.
It's a two way thing and I do know you understand that,
You can do all you can, but if the partner is not interested, or just cant be bothered, you have no hope.
That sounds hard, but that is how it's been for me in two marriages.
I tied hard to get things right, no yelling, calm talks,no force.
But to be a decent human to another, to be understanding and to try to work through matters of concert, (with no luck of even hope).
So now I just do not know what the other person is, they are not like me, and that makes me very sad, I was and always was willing to walk through hell for my marriages and the relationship, but that seems not enough for some people.
What you say makes me feel why did I not find a person like this one,where was she when I needed her.
Age is not the problem, My first wife was same age, second wife 20 years younger.
Age is not it I can assure you on that.
I dont have an answer for you and no one else here will, it's you, You will decide whats best for you, I hope you find what you need and that may be very different to what you have now.
HICCUP/
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ebsharer (2474) | 1 year ago | Yes you have commented to me before thank you for that. The way I see it is I will do my part until he walks away. I will try and I will do every thing I can do to fix things. When he is ready to walk away I will accept it but until then I have to fight for what I believe in - and I believe in us.
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34. suspenseful (17075) | 1 year ago | I do not know much about marriage breakups, most of the marriage breakups I know was because of a death of the spouse. Your husband sounds as if he wants you to remain as you were when you were first going together. He forgets that even if you did not have a child together, being home and making the meals, etc. you will gain weight. Also I heard that if one lives together before marriage, the marriage stands a better chance of breaking up because in your husband's case, he wants the irresponsibility and spontaneity of playing house. In other words, your husband is acting like a sixteen year old. And if you decide to spice up your marriage, what chance would it be if he will not cooperate? He thinks that he is going to find some sweet young thing, but he will not and if he does, he will soon grow tired of her. So keep on with the counseling, oh and it would not hurt to tell him what he is going to give up financially. Sometimes the man thinks he is going to keep the house and most of the money and possibly he does as well.
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35. Jade13 (213) | 1 year ago | Go for a vacation! An exotic one at the beach. Better with no TVs, no phone. And I know just the place! Fiji! If its too expansive, why not try Thailand? A lot private beach houses. A place where he can focus on only you and you only. Go for 2 weeks. Long enough to forget about work, about stress. Leave all the problems at home. Relax and enjoy for two weeks.
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ebsharer (2474) | 1 year ago | Yeah right! A vacation! We have things called responsiblities and wether we are having problems or not things still need to be taken care of such as our DAUGHTER our BILLS our JOBS.
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mommyboo (3332) | 1 year ago | I don't think the poster was trying to be obnoxious by mentioning it, even though it's nearly impossible for a couple with a child who both work to imagine doing. It would be nice, wouldn't you think? A vacation every year would be amazing, I think we've managed like one in five years... well we're planning to take one in the fall. Ugh, the cost fries me just thinking about it.
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36. guybrush (3498) | 1 year ago | This is a very sad situation, and it's admirable that you talked your husband into having some counselling and not just giving up on the spot. For some reason, it seems your husband has set his mind to not wanting to give things a go. Is there someone else involved maybe, and he's not telling you about it? Maybe there is something else happening which your husband is unwilling to admit. It's very difficult, but you can't force a person to stay if they don't want to, so maybe if you agreed to some time apart to think things over, your husband would be able to get things clear in his mind. He might realise the grass isn't greener on the other side of the fence and then be ready to give things another try. I really hope it works out for you. Good luck!
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ebsharer (2474) | 1 year ago | No there isn't any one else - please see my other commets for more on this if you would like.
He doesn't know if he wants to try or not but until then I will do every thing I can to make things work.
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guybrush (3498) | 1 year ago | Good for you ... all the best of luck with it, I hope you can work things out.
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| 37. bensonshen (83) | 1 year ago | firstly, you should find out where the problem is. is it because there is a "third one" or something else. then you can try to suit the remedy to the case
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ebsharer (2474) | 1 year ago | no third party - please see my other comments on that
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38. sid556 (10611) | 1 year ago | reading your entire post...i have absolutely no clue to the problems you two are having with each other. apart from drugs, alchol abuse, physical abuse and cheating on each other, I think marriage is worth fighting for. If he isn't willing to fight for it, could be that you have to do the fighting. most other problems beyond those that I mentioned above are solevable and worth the effort.
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ebsharer (2474) | 1 year ago | I don't know what the problems are either. He says we have grown apart. I don't see it. We don't spend time together I work days he works evenings. Sats and Sun mornings used to be spent together but now he makes other plans.
I think our biggest issue is not spending time toghether. I don't know what he thinks the issues are.
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sid556 (10611) | 1 year ago | i can clearly see communication is a problem here. you guys need to talk. Don't give up. All marriages go thru tough times and the beauty of marriage is that you stay when you really would rather leave. as you work things out, your relationship becomes stronger. Hubby sounds like he is willing to give up way too easily which means that you may have to fight with the strength of both of you to save it. I wouldn't give up just yet if i were you.
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39. kimberlylynn (577) | 1 year ago | I have seen this happen to a far too many women and it really takes both people to make a marriage work and he has given up. Guys just seem to get it in their head that they aren't happy because the honeymoon years are over and think divorce is the easy way out instead of working things through. He is the only one who really knows why and whether he is telling you the real reasons you may never know. If he is in a rush, I would throw it out there that he is getting attention from another woman. I admire that you are going to fight for him and are letting him know that this is not what you want to happen. Here are some questions you may want to ask yourself: Do you really want to be with someone who isn't giving you what you deserve? How many more years are you going to feel like you wasted on him if he is not willing to work in your marriage as hard as you are? Good luck - you sound like a devoted loving wife and it would be his loss!
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ebsharer (2474) | 1 year ago | You asked me a few questions - I said I would answer all questions so here it goes...
Q- Do you really want to be with someone who isn't giving you what you deserve? A- No I don't want to be with some one that isn't giving me what I deserve, BUT I truly feel like once he works through what ever it is he is going through we will be okay again. I believe in my heart of hearts in my soul that things will be okay if HE can get through this. Again I am not saying I am perfect but I do believe once he realizes that the grass isn't always greener on the other side he will understand what we have IS good.
Q- How many more years are you going to feel like you wasted on him if he is not willing to work in your marriage as hard as you are? A- Time with him - good or bad will never feel wasted. Even if things don't work out the way I want I have learned a lot from him. I have a beautiful daughter because of him and no matter what he will always have a place in my heart. I will never regret any time spent with him.
I try to be a devoted and loving wife and I will continue to do so for as long as he will allow me to.
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sid556 (10611) | 1 year ago | Oh my...sorry to cut in but I have to commend you on such a good response. Your hubby is so lucky to have you and I hope that he sees this. You are very wise. If just IF this does not work out...you will walk away with the knowing that you did all you could and guilt free. hang in there...know it must be tough but i think in the end you'll feel better for the effort.
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ebsharer (2474) | 1 year ago | SID - Thank you for the words of encourgment. I do appreciate them. I thought about him seeing this and I told him that I had a lot for him to read. I want to talk to him about a lot of what I have learned from this disucssion. I didn't quite get the answers I was looking for but I did learn a lot. First and formost I learned that too many people are just willing to give up. Most of the responses here are tell me to do so. Divorce really is TOO easy. I never thought that I would have to deal with the word 'divorce' as sooo many people have. I truly think that if its ment to be it will be and I truly think we are ment to be.
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40. Ruthep (5928) | 1 year ago | I have just been through this but never did the counseling. He is trying counseling for his issues. Has he said why he is unhappy. Is it him? Is it the marriage or everything? It doesn't really sound as though your husband is too open to the idea of figuring out what he wants and doing counseling. He needs to be committed in order for it to work. A very big thing is not forgetting the little things. My husband and I did that. After so long little things just get forgotten, little by little. It's not important and more and more things are not too important and pretty soon thing are not as good as they once were. Your husband needs to figure out what he needs to be happy. You can't be happy with someone if you are just not happy. Now I don't mean leave you to be happy, but maybe he needs more "me" time. What did you used to do early on in your relationship that you don't anymore. Sometimes just getting back to doing thing like you used to helps. Sometimes it just has to be you to start and he will reciprocate. Life has a way of getting in the way. Spontaneity goes out the window. One thing I did was write my husband a letter and wrote things that I felt that he never seemed to get or listen to. He read it and I think that made a huge difference. I really hope for the best for you. It is very hard to think your marriage may be over. take care of you.
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