Shame on the Liberal Yuppie compu-nerds

@clrumfelt (5597)
Tennessee Ridge, Tennessee
September 16, 2008 10:53am CST
It has been widely circulated that John McCain is computer illiterate and mostly has been believed as fact because of his age. The real fact of the matter is that John McCain was well known in the Senate for his technological prowess in the 1980's. The internet wasn't widely used in the 1980's so I guess we can say while McCain is plenty computer literate, he is not all that internet oriented, and there is a good reason for it. As a POW, both of McCain's arms and all of his fingers were broken and using the keyboard is a daunting experience for him because of those injuries. I wonder if Obama knows that he is mocking the fact that McCain literally went through he11 defending our country when he complains McCain can't even send an email. I don't blame John McCain for having his wife do his internet business for him, I rather admire him for it because I know it is just another thing he has given up for defending his country and he lives with the pain in his hand and arms every day. What's your opinion on John McCain's Internet "deficits"?
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
16 Sep 08
Well I think it's sad. There are also voice programs that would be able to help him with whatever issues that would require fingers. I don't think that it's uncommon for people to lack knowledge over the internet. I worked for a man that didn't know how to use a computer and this was last year.
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@clrumfelt (5597)
• Tennessee Ridge, Tennessee
16 Sep 08
I agree with you. Being able to use the internet has nothing to do with the kind of problem solving and leadership qualities our country needs right now. I say McCain has a lot more of the real presidential qualities than Obama can lay claim to.
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@ram_cv (16513)
• India
16 Sep 08
If that is the reason why McCain does not access the Internet, then I believe you are right in saying the Obama should be ashamed. But, in this age of digitizers and mouses, touchpads, voice recognition and even movement recognizers, I believe it hard to believe that a person like senator John McCain would not have access to these kind of devices which can still allow him to use the internet and email on a regular basis!! Cheers! Ram
@clrumfelt (5597)
• Tennessee Ridge, Tennessee
16 Sep 08
I'm sure he could if he deemed it necessary. But it really should be a non-issue in the election.
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@newtondak (3946)
• United States
16 Sep 08
Do you feel that it is necessary for him to be able to use the computer/internet in order to fulfill the duties of his current job, or the duties of the President of the United States? I honestly don't see why this should even be an issue - it's just another thing to nit-pick.
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@clrumfelt (5597)
• Tennessee Ridge, Tennessee
17 Sep 08
I agree with you. It is just a distraction to try and make him look bad. Internet usage has very little, if anything, to do with running the country, and it would be better for a president to tell people what he wants done and let them do the internet tasks rather than doing them himself. He has so much more that requires his attention and efforts.
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@MntlWard (878)
• United States
16 Sep 08
John McCain said himself that he doesn't know how to use the internet. There are better reasons not to vote for him, but he's a computer illiterate by his own admission.
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@clrumfelt (5597)
• Tennessee Ridge, Tennessee
16 Sep 08
Internet literate and computer literate are not the same thing, but I think you're right, it should be a non-issue and there are better reasons to vote for him.
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
17 Sep 08
Ah I guess according to these yuppies, I should not be on myLot. After all, I am 65, and McCain is only six years old than I am. I know what it is like to have someone unable to do what they could have done. My husband had a stroke and has arthritis in his fingers and if it were not for the pills he takes, he would be in worse trouble. So someone who can work and strive to be president in spite of the pain has my admiration. Sorry not American cannot vote.
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• United States
17 Sep 08
Something you point out really hits things ... There are actually two people I know - maybe even more friends that I am aware of - that are John McCain's age & right here on MyLot, as well as a few other places.
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• United States
17 Sep 08
I'm sure that others with John McCain's problems, & yeah - probably John McCain himself, too - would use computers more if they were voice activated. Can you imagine coming to myLot, & instead of having to type out your response, you recite it & then it posts for you?
@clrumfelt (5597)
• Tennessee Ridge, Tennessee
17 Sep 08
That's a good point, age doesn't hold anyone back from doing what they want to do. Anyone can be internet savvy no matter what their age. John McCain was on the cutting edge of technology in the 1980's before Al Gore invented the internet, but his usage of the computers lessened over the years as his arms and hands became more painful operating the keyboard. He is a great delegator having been a senior officer in the Airforce, and I think the fact that he is about the business of politics and delegates his computer concerns to someone else means he is better at his job and knows there are more important national issues that need attention.
• United States
16 Sep 08
I am sorry for McCain's hinderances, but that doesn't keep him from being computer literate or internet knowledgeable. With all the people in his camp, he could hire someone to do the actual fingerwork for him. Just because he cannot send an e-mail himself, doesn't mean he can't dictate one. So I don't believe that Obama is mocking him, whether deliberate or unintentional. He could have it done for him if he wished.
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@clrumfelt (5597)
• Tennessee Ridge, Tennessee
16 Sep 08
He probably dictates his emails to Cindy. I understand she does his internet business for him. I agree with the observation of a friend of mine who said none of the great presidents who came before McCain were computer literate either. Better to focus on more productive presidential qualities. My message, "I WONDER if Obama knows he is mocking..." He is distracting with an non-issue, but should also do his homework and he won't have to change his story so much.
@newtondak (3946)
• United States
16 Sep 08
It's just another one of those things that Obama is spouting about McCain that just doesn't really matter. Is it going to have an impact on the economy - on gas-prices - on food-prices - on the mortgage crisis - on the war in Iraq? What impact is John McCain not sending emails going to have on those issues?
@clrumfelt (5597)
• Tennessee Ridge, Tennessee
16 Sep 08
I think you are right it is just another distraction to try and make him look good and make McCain look bad. It has nothing to do with the real issues, it's just more mud slinging.
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@avonrep1 (1862)
• United States
17 Sep 08
To be honest the mud slinging I pay not attention to. But My opinion on McCain is not a high one. My opinion on his lack of knowledge on the internet, would be this; "You can access the internet through voice commands, he has plenty of money to be internet savy." SO I think that Barack has a point. McCain will be like having Bush in Office for 4 more years. Not a good thing.
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@clrumfelt (5597)
• Tennessee Ridge, Tennessee
17 Sep 08
No one ever accused President Bush of not being internet savvy. I think McCain has distinguished himself as a reformer against the old political machine in D.C. whereas Obama has not. McCain will be a great president.
@sharra1 (6340)
• Australia
17 Sep 08
Well I find it amusing that you condemn these people for criticizing McCain being computer illiterate and then admit that he is. What is your point!! I am Australian so I watch the election with curiosity. I find it amusing that you call Democrats left wing. As if! You do not have any thing called left wing in your politics. You have the same as us right wing and extreme right wing. McCain is in the extreme right wing category. I do not think that we have had a left wing person in politics for years. In fact I remember the time when the last left leaning conservative was removed from the Australian conservative party. They call themselves the liberals it is a good joke. They would not know a real liberal if he/she bit them on the nose. I think it is important that McCain understands the internet. He does not have to use it but it can be a dangerous tool in the hands of a skilled user. He needs to know this and he should have experts advising him of this. Hell I am not a skilled user but I understand how useful the internet is for public information in the hands of the skilled. I still find it amazing that you can find information on anything on the net. In my view that makes it a great way to prevent cover ups by politicians. I got into computers in 1992 and I understood them then. Now they are so far out of my expertise that I just shrug and smile. I am getting old. My nephews know more about computers than I do yet I was trained to teach computers in high school. Technology is constantly growing and unless you are an IT expert you will be out of touch in a month. So you need someone who understands it to be advising you about it. No my problem is that you are condemning people for being right. Pathetic. Ok so they are right. By condemning them you are making it more important than it is.
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@clrumfelt (5597)
• Tennessee Ridge, Tennessee
17 Sep 08
I find your opinions kind of odd to me. We are talking about American politics here and American standards, not Australian. I'm sure John McCain has a basic understanding of the internet but he also has plenty of people around him to do the computers for him since his hands and arms are not up to the task and he has a lot more important things to do with his time. I don't think he shrugs off the internet as not importand because it has become one of the major means of comminication in the world, but he is a great delegator because he was a US Airforce Captain and it would be kind of silly to think he doesn't have someone on this. Good day.
@irishidid (8687)
• United States
17 Sep 08
There are many people who don't know a thing about computers. I have family members who have never touched one. Just because they are everywhere doesn't mean everyone uses one. It was a moronic move on the Obama camp's side and so pointless to what people are voting for. Someone ridiculed me in another post because I said we'd be getting to the point of talking about a candidate's hangnail. Guess I was more right than wrong because we are surely getting to that point.
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@clrumfelt (5597)
• Tennessee Ridge, Tennessee
17 Sep 08
One news agency did a story on Obama on a day he was campaigning with a cold. He wouldn't shake hands with people that day and asked someone in the crowd if he could borrow a tissue. Reporting on a hangnail would surely have made a better story than reporting on a candidate blowing his nose(yuk!), but neither is a story with any merit. I agree with that 100%. We should have seen the technology arrogance coming the day Obama chose his vice president and had everyone who supported him on the edge of their chairs waiting for a text message telling them who it is. It really is a non-issue in the election and no one should have said it.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
17 Sep 08
It may seem pointless to educated voters, but Obama mocks McCain's computer prowess to appeal to arrogant teenagers who think it's impossible to live without a computer, 2 cell phones, and an ipod. Fortunately that's a demographic with an extremely low voter turnout.
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@sharra1 (6340)
• Australia
17 Sep 08
Hmmm yes low voter turn out. Well in Australia it is compulsory to vote from the age of 18 and when I was 18 I was very much into politics and voting. It is only years down the track where I have discovered that I am rarely living in an electorate where my vote makes a difference. I tend to be a greens voter and I seem to consistently live in electorates where most people vote conservative. I tend to like to vote against mainstream. I like to challenge. I like to make people think. I care about the poor. I think it is wrong that countries as rich as Australia and America have homeless people who are at risk of starving. To me that is obscene. Yes there are many people who know nothing about computers and I would not judge him regarding it but it is silly to condemn the Democrats for pointing it out. Hey they are right! He does not know much about it and it is an important part of the future.
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@Bluepatch (2476)
• Trinidad And Tobago
17 Sep 08
He should be proud of them. If they were sustained in service of the country they should be a thing of pride. Its awfull that other people make fun of this disability. I don't understand this kind of mockery. Its definitely not in keeping with patriotic principles.
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@clrumfelt (5597)
• Tennessee Ridge, Tennessee
17 Sep 08
The ones mocking McCain's lack of internet usage may or may not have been mocking his disability. The point is that they made the accusation without bothering to find out the facts first, trying to portray his as being behind the times and therefore unappealing to the young people who think the internet is all there is nowadays. It should be a non-issue, and must not be confused with a true quality for being a good president.