Does he want me to be more selfish?

@suspenseful (40192)
Canada
September 25, 2008 12:01am CST
I am making the baking for our women's society next week and I told my husband we need some chocolate chips for cookies, and he told me that since I do not have any children I should not to do it, but the cookies are for the ladies, as the mothers of the children bring their own stuff for their kids (they are all pre school and babies). And I do love baking. So why does my husband say this? I mean I am supposed to be unselfish, am I supposed to be a selfish woman and think only of myself? Is that supposed to be right? Is it only the women who have little kids who have to make the cookies? Is it only the women who have little kids who are allowed to babysit?
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@Grandmaof2 (7578)
• Canada
25 Sep 08
Perhaps hubby was just a bit tired or just not concerned with cookies at that moment. I think you took it too personal. He'll be OK and I'm sure the ladies, children and who knows maybe even your husband will enjoy the cookies. He's a man and sometimes we need to reel in a little slack.
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@dragon54u (31633)
• United States
25 Sep 08
I think we've cut men slack for too long. It's time to demand they behave like humans instead of filthy, pee-all-over-the-floor-and-toilet-seat animals. Burping, belching, farting jerks that don't think we have feelings! I'm sorry, but that really makes me mad. We have feelings too and it's time we started demanding that men behave and consider our feelings like we do theirs.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
25 Sep 08
He is getting enough from his pension so he does not have to worry about going short. It does make me annoyed. After all, the next thing he will demand that the minister makes lots of money and I do not have to put my monthly tithe in the collection box. I mean just because his former church only rich men became ministers does not mean that happens to all. I mean it is not as if I take all the cookies and cakes and bars to church and they have and he does not have any. He does get some and it is not as if I did not want children, and we did adopt.
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• United States
2 Oct 08
He probably doesn't want to be bothered to get more chips. I think it is perfectly fine to enjoy baking for other people. That is reward in itself. There are some people who think too much of other people. They can get taken for granted. You might ask if your husband thinks this is the case with you.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
2 Oct 08
He does not like that much chocolate chips, but we cannot bake anything with nuts because of the allergies, and if I made a pound cake or a bundt cake, I would have to use more butter and more eggs. So the chips were the cheapest.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
3 Oct 08
Yes that is it. That is why I do not do that much baking. He eats them all.
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• United States
3 Oct 08
Oh, well.. um, that's just strange. Why would it matter to him how many chips are in cookies he's not going to eat? Oh, he wants to pilfer the cookies, I see.
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• United States
7 Oct 08
Maybe he doesn't realize how much you like to bake. I would tell him that they are for the ladies and not really for the children since the parent's bring stuff for them. I think anybody should be able to cook stuff for meetings and get togethers whether you have children or not. Make them anyway...don't worry about what he says. If it makes you feel good to make them, then make them for everyone.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
11 Feb 10
He knows I love to bake. In fact, I can make cookies without using a recipe. It is just that time he was worried about money = well he was brought up to believe that if you spend something, it is lost forever. He is getting better now. Anyway because he is not well, I do not have that much time, but then I did and it was a special occasion.
@checapricorn (16060)
• United States
25 Sep 08
[i]Hi suspenseful, I am sure if you will explain to him , he will understand you..Sometimes, they act right away maybe due to tiredness... My hubby is also like that but when I will explain to him, he will start to change his words! You have a great heart for doing this and I am sure you will make a lot of people happy![/i]
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
30 Sep 08
I made extra squares and buns for him. So that made it all right. I did find how to upgrade the recipe from an eight inch square pan to a nine inch square pan because if I make a double quantity, they are way too tempting. The matrimonial squares were in the 9 x 9 pan and we have about twenty ladies, so that leaves five for him.
@writersedge (22563)
• United States
29 Sep 08
I think unfortunately that people are cutting back on donating because of the economy. I received an email from a friend near where I live. She and her husband were doing meals on wheels. A program that brings food to people who can't get out to get a meal because of disability, illness, whatever. They could no longer do it. They couldn't afford the gas. I used to donate enough food for a single person to eat a meal. Having been single and without money for food, but now I am lucky if I can donate very much. I donated a small package of dried soup this past weekend and that was all I could do. Will there be enough cookies if you don't bake? Will you be going to this event? Will you feel funny if you don't bring something? Will people understand if you don't bring something? Are or have you been the only person without children to help out in the past? It sounds to me like it is an event that you enjoy, but not one that he understands. Does he have an event the he enjoys, but wouldn't like it if you tried to curtail his activities? There is much to consider here and much that I do not know. But I do know that many people are cutting back and maybe he feels that is a way to cut back. It's hard for me to know. Did you ask him why he said what he did? What is his thinking behind it? I know it was hard for that couple to give up bringing meals to people. Take care
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
30 Sep 08
They have a list and who ever is baking for the society that week, puts her name down on the list. I was the first one so I put my name down. I will not be able to make it tomorrow so I gave the baking to my friend. We also have a list when there is a big gettogether and all the ladies have to bring some baking, and one for the choir and all the choir people have to bring baking on the choir concert day. I often questioned them about that, I mean do us ladies in the choir have to prove that we can cook and we do not spend all the time practicing arpeggios and scales? But no one answered my question. Anyway it would not look right for me to do nothing and the other ladies to bring all the baking. I did not do any last year. Oh I am a good at budgeting. Oh and I do not curtail activities. He can do what he wants. It is not me being selfish and wanting my own way all the time. As for donating, I do not do any volunteering. But I do give offerings at church and he does not complain about that.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
2 Oct 08
We all take turns. And at least when I sing, my voice is loud enough and powerful enough so someone might come into church and hear it. The trouble is with my husband's stroke, I cannot stay long enough and if I were to go for professional singing, I would have to pay major dollars for lessons.
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@writersedge (22563)
• United States
2 Oct 08
Taking turns is good. Lessons-yes, they do cost. I was interested in taking singing lessons at one point myself. But the cost. . ..You're right. Take care
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@jzjqdkd (273)
• China
25 Sep 08
your husband's intention must not let you be more selfish,he just wanted not to be too tired.but if baking can give you pleasure,you go for baking,which won't make your husband angry,his intention is just ensuring you happy.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
4 Oct 08
Well I have no idea what he was thinking, except perhaps he is not that fond of chocolate chip cookies anyway, but when I make them for him, I added nuts so he should not complain. I do not like chocolate chip cookies unless they have nuts in them.
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@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
25 Sep 08
Nope he is the selfish one!
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@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
30 Sep 08
is your answer for me! I said he was the selfish one!
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
4 Oct 08
I figure that it is what he is.
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
30 Sep 08
I am not being selfish. In fact, I am being less selfish all the time and he should be glad that I am less selfish. After all, that makes me more of a Christian does it not? Doing things for others.
@reinydawn (11642)
• United States
25 Sep 08
I have run across similar feelings myself. I belong to our communities Ladies Auxiliary. Mostly what we do it plan the kids parties and stuff like that. My kids are grown - in their 20's - so it doesn't really "benefit" me to be involved. But, I do love helping out so I continue to participate. I help organize the Halloween and Holiday party, as well as some of the other events for the kids. I make baked goods, help decorate and help clean up. If my schedule permits, I go to the events and help keep everything running smoothly. I have no kids there, but I do remember what it was like when my kids were younger and people helped out for me. I think you're doing the right thing - although I do see how your husband can be frustrated over it.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
27 Sep 08
Well as far as Halloween is concerned, he is all for buying those candies so the kids can go see the dentist. I do not believe in Halloween but I am expected to give out the candies because he cannot -he cannot move fast because of his stroke. Yet he does not want me to do baking once a year for the Women's Society. And of course, when they made the list, I was the first one and it would not look right for me to refuse. My boys are grown and out of the house, that does not make me a glad they are gone like his sister is. I told him I am nowhere like his sister nor his mother.
@subha12 (18441)
• India
25 Sep 08
it is tough to guess as such. but i think there should be something like that.may be in this time of so much influence, when life is getting tougher day by day, he does not want you to spend so much.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
25 Sep 08
The trouble is that he does make enough money from his pension. And I am not spending that much. And I have to do something. I cannot babysit because I will leave too early before the meeting is over, and I can lead, that is choose the hymns as long as someone else does the closing prayer and hymn, but well we all have to contribute something and most of the baking goes on two or three ladies who have kids of their own. We are not poor.
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@slickcut (8140)
• United States
25 Sep 08
Men!!! I know you like baking and if i were you i would make the cookies..It has nothing to do with children..I found out a long time ago ,i just do what i think ,men rather you just sit right up under them & bake them cookies..I bet if you wanted to bake him cookies that would be fine..No you are NOT supposs to be selfish...Go get your chocolate chips & bake those cookies like you planned to..Also make your little hubby a few ,men are usually jealous of you making things for others...
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
27 Sep 08
I did that. I found a recipe that makes 4 dozen, and I made lots, so he has some for himself. He also had some matrimonial cake, some cinnamon buns, and some raisin squares. So he should be sitting pretty for a while.
@ElicBxn (64169)
• United States
25 Sep 08
I don't know if he's intending you to be selfish - but he (and being a guy this might have more merit than you think) says this because he sees you spending your small amount of money on something that you could be saving it. Guys often stick their foot in their mouths by coming at a subject from the wrong direction. What I suggest is you sit down with him and ask what exactly he was trying to say - that you (both of you) really can't afford to buy chips because you are short of money, or that he thinks its a waste of the money to spend it when you guys could be spending it on something for yourselves, or exactly what he meant by the statement. There are just times when I could kick some guys at coming at topics backwards and getting feathers ruffled.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
25 Sep 08
It is not from my money. It is from the grocery money. He thinks it is a waste of time when I buy almonds and walnuts and yogurt because they are healthy. He would rather me buy head lettuce instead of leaf lettuce, if he does not eat it, then no one else should buy it and that includes sweet potatoes, brown rice, etc. I am making my whole wheat bread, but he figures that I can get the pseudo whole wheat bread that contains that gluten and is cheap and that is just as good. He thinks that enriched means excellent. And when I do make cookies and I do save my money. So I am not being wasteful.
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@ElicBxn (64169)
• United States
25 Sep 08
its still household money - and the energy to cook it HOWEVER - having said that - it sounds like he's an insenstive boob about how you feel about food - and what he puts in his body - he's probably eat DingDongs and think he was doing good. just tell him it isn't any of his business
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@ElicBxn (64169)
• United States
27 Sep 08
sounds like he's just being a jerk - humm - maybe time to feed him what's good for him and tell him that if he doesn't like it - HE can do without.
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@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
25 Sep 08
No and I think that was wrong of him to say. Though I love to bake and can bake some really good things, some Moms don't have the time or skill to bake and if you enjoy it, I say go for it..But I also would ask your husband why he thinks this. Maybe he feels your finances are strained? If that is the case, I can see his point, but to not do it just because you don't have children is not right..
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
27 Sep 08
It is not my finances it is his he is worried about. But let me say that we have been not eating as well as we should because he keeps on harping about not having enough food and that is where I cut out. He forgets that we do not have a garden and he told us not to plant a garden because he complained about money and I decided to make some more so he does not have to give me an allowance. So he said I was too busy for a garden. So no matter what I do is wrong. If I do not do something besides leading the society meeting,
@dragon54u (31633)
• United States
25 Sep 08
Don't you have two adopted children? Doesn't that make you a mother? What is wrong with your husband?! Mothers are not biological, they're mothers because children are in their heart. I would smack your husband if he were mine for saying that.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
27 Sep 08
My sons are in their thirties. And he does deserve a slap. After all, I did not chose not to have biological children. Circumstances, as you have read on my other posts, worked against me. And even if I never had any adopted children does not mean that infertile and sterile women should never bake cookies for societies where there are little children are present.
• India
25 Sep 08
I think he might have said you in some other manner and you have taken it otherwise feeling like. He may be doubtful that you may bake enough and there is no children to eat and will go waste. Further you are right one should not be selfish and must think for others also.
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@flowerchilde (12529)
• United States
29 Sep 08
Just goes to prove you can't please all the people all the time... (I don't even try!)
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
2 Oct 08
That's for sure. I get really confused sometime. I try to be nice, but sometimes it does not work.
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• Canada
16 Nov 09
Some people feel that their families should keep what they have within the family. I would not tell my husband something like your husband just told you, but I have told hiim to not spread himself so thin. However, if you are not spreading yourself too thin in the baking and sharing department, I don't see the problem with what you are doing.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
11 Feb 10
Oh when I bake for the women's society I usually make more then enough so he gets some. It is not as if I baked them all for the society and he got nothing. The only thing is that I love to put nuts in everything and there are a couple of children at the church school who are allergic and it is hard to make something good. I mean you just cannot live on plain cakes and chocolate cakes and plain cookies all the time.
@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
25 Sep 08
I really admire you for being a service of others. If you enjoy doing it and it gives you a self satisfaction keep doing it no matter what your husband says.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
30 Sep 08
I will keep doing it. I also leave enough for my husband and I was using recipes that did not cost that much to make. I wanted to make a lemon bundt cake but that would have taken more eggs and I had run out of lemon. So I found my favorite raisin square, my matrimonial squares, and this easy cinnamon bun recipe and the chocolate chip cookies. I had already raisins and some dates, so the only expense were the chocolate chips.
• United States
25 Sep 08
A woman should be able to do whatever she wants whether she has children or not. Some men just love to control their wives even over the smallest of issues. Just do what you want to do. If that is selfish, so be it. But I do not think it is. He is making an issue out of nothing.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
30 Sep 08
It is really nothing to make cookies. I suspect it is because of how he grew up. The men were considered way way more important than the women and the way I was brought up, men were important but so were women. I am a bit selfish and I thought that doing something for others were making me less selfish.
• United States
30 Sep 08
I never get the impression that you are selfish.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
16 Feb 10
Thank you, but I was made to feel guilty about doing something for myself or even buying something for myself. And I am rather shy about volunteering, but that is because sometimes people want you to volunteer by promising if you do, etc. etc. and I have been disappointed a bit.
@terri0824 (5203)
• United States
29 Sep 08
No and No! I believe anyone who wants to bake cookies should be able to bake cookies, as well as anyone who wants to babysit the children should be allowed to do so. It shouldn't depend on whether you have children if you are allowed to do such activities.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
11 Feb 10
You're welcome. I have not babysat for a while. I think part of the reason was that I was not put on the babysitting list for the church service and the other part because of having an invalid husband. And I think of even though I did ask to be put on the list and not being put on it hurt the more. I really have to talk to them about it. We were discussing childless couples and those who never got children the natural way, and I think I told them how I felt. I hope the next year, when the new list comes and they want volunteers in case the regular babysitters are sick, that they would consider me.
@terri0824 (5203)
• United States
30 Sep 08
Thanks for the best response.
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@glords (2614)
• United States
25 Sep 08
Sounds like your husband is just trying to protect you from being taken advantage of. He wants you to be happy. If you don't want to make the cookies, I think he is right let someone else take care of that obligation. If you want to, then make those cookies and eat some too.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
30 Sep 08
He thinks that if I make cookies, we are suddenly going to run out of money. I made enough for all, him included. And I did not do any baking for the Lady's society all last year. I did lead the meeting twice last season, but this year with my husband not being well, I cannot stay that long. At least with the baking I can leave early.