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Kenedy another victim of the "Palin treatment"? email this discussion to a friend?

myLot reputation of 78/100. xfahctor (5395)   ranked 68 out of 6,373 in politics1 year ago

Ok, I haven't seen too much discussion on this here yet, so I'm biting on it. It Is Carolyn Kenedy is going to be recieving the same treatment in the media Governor Palin did? While some may see this as vindication or even a good "whats good for the goose" kind of thing, I am left to wonder how many democrats will be bending over backwards to defend her against what seems to be emerging while they assisted the media in it's disgusting assault on governor Palin. In an interview with Dominic Carter, a quote from Kenedy..."Now, well, can we just, you know, get through this, like you know, right here now? I mean, you know?"......Now if Palin had pulled this line, it would have been given half a dozen threads in here alone with better than 25 responses, not to mention repeated loops of airtime on msnbc, cnn and nearly every news paper in the country.
So, your thoughts people.

 
 
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1. myLot reputation of 87/100. smartie0317 (1150)   ranked 639 out of 6,373 in politics   1 year ago

I've noticed ingeneral, democratics being treated more respectfully than republicans. I also believe Kennedy is being treated a certain way because in many ways a lot of Americans grew up with her. She's too much of a celebrity in a way to get the Palin, new comer, bash. I don't her ability, which she sorely lacks, will be questioned due to her Kennedy charm.

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2. myLot reputation of 65/100. anniepa (9234)   ranked 375 out of 6,373 in politics   1 year ago

First of all, there's no fair comparison between Caroline Kennedy and Sarah Palin; Palin was the V.P. nominee and had her ticket won she'd have been a heartbeat from the Presidency. Caroline is in the running to be appointed to a two year term as one of 100 U.S. Senators. IF she's appointed by Governor Patterson and if she chooses to continue in that seat she'll have to run for election in both 2010 and in 2012. I haven't seen the interview you mention above so I really can't make a fair comparison between that and any of Palin's interviews or quotes but I have seen and heard Caroline speak on quite a few occasions and I've found her to be quite articulate and well-spoken.

I'm not sure if Caroline is "qualified" or "ready" to be the junior Senator from New York or not but that decision isn't mine, it's up to Governor Patterson and after that it will be up to the voters of N.Y. whether they want to keep her there. I'm sure she'll get plenty of media attention if she is selected and everyone will be waiting for her to mess up.

That having been said, I'm afraid (or maybe I should say thankful...lol!) there's only one Sarah Palin.
Annie


myLot reputation of 82/100. debrakcarey (1351)   ranked 156 out of 6,373 in politics  4 months ago

anniepa....it's like people saying "but Bush did this or that....." Palin isn't a heartbeat away from the presidency. She isn't even in charge in Alaska anymore. But the media still bashes her. Carolyn Kennedy is almost an icon in this country and very well could be elected to the senate. Which makes the laws in this country...not the president. And I wouldn't doubt for one minute that somewhere in this country, there's a Kennedy being groomed to sit in the Oval Office. It very well could be her. Just a thought.


myLot reputation of 65/100. anniepa (9234)   ranked 375 out of 6,373 in politics  4 months ago

"Palin isn't a heartbeat away from the presidency. She isn't even in charge in Alaska anymore."
Hmmm...my response was posted in December. Many people were still thinking about the fact that Palin indeed could have been a heartbeat away from the Presidency and she was still Governor of Alaska and nobody would have ever guessed she'd quit before her term was up.

"But the media still bashes her."
You make it seem like she were quietly leading a private life and the media were violating her privacy without her saying a word. That's far from the truth!

"Carolyn Kennedy is almost an icon in this country and very well could be elected to the senate."
Caroline isn't even running as far as I know and she wasn't appointed.

"And I wouldn't doubt for one minute that somewhere in this country, there's a Kennedy being groomed to sit in the Oval Office. It very well could be her. Just a thought."
And a Bush or two...and a Clinton... There are a few other politically active and well known families I could probably think of. What's your point?

Annie

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3. myLot reputation of 72/100. irishidid (3052)   ranked 1,310 out of 6,373 in politics   1 year ago

I see no point in it other than lowering my standards to compete with the Palin bashers. I've got better things to do.

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4. myLot reputation of 95/100. Barb42 (2708)   ranked 61 out of 6,373 in politics   1 year ago

Caroline Kennedy is a Kennedy, that's about enough said. The media would never dare to attack her like they did Palin! Uncle would be after them in a heartbeat! And, I think she'll be given the Senate seat of Clinton's simply because she is a Kennedy.

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5. myLot reputation of 18/100. MntlWard (581)   ranked 1,899 out of 6,373 in politics   1 year ago

I haven't heard that interview, either.

And while that statement isn't very well-formed, and she says "you know" a lot, it doesn't compare to something like (for example) claiming foreign policy experience due to your state's proximity to a foreign country.


myLot reputation of 18/100. MntlWard (581)   ranked 1,899 out of 6,373 in politics  1 year ago

Forgot to add:

I don't fully support Kennedy's nomination for the job, because she's vying for it in a lazy way. She's never campaigned for an office before, and it seems she's only asking for this now that she won't have to go to the trouble of proving her worth to her constituents.

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6. myLot reputation of 22/100. kennyrose (4052)   ranked 2,963 out of 6,373 in politics   1 year ago

I heard a few minutes of Carolyn Kennedy's interview the few minutes she spoke she did use the words you know numbers of times,a guest democrat speaker on Fox news said she counted the you knows and Carolyn Kennedy said you know 196 times in this certain interview.
This women did not have much nice to say about Carolyn Kennedy and sounded much like the rips as my great-grandmother would had call them that unmercifully degraded Governor Sarah Palin.
Sarah Palin had been a successful mayor and has the title of governor before her name and most people know very well the disrespect she got from certain people was not warranted.
Unless because Carolyn Kennedy is the daughter of John and Jackie Kennedy and a very rich democrat she should expect to be treated even with less respect by the mean democrats then Gov Sarah Palin who actually has experience holding government offices,she has been a very successfully four year mayor of her town and she is the most popular governor of all the governors coming in to the presidential race with a very high approval rate after two years serving as the governor of Alaska.
With the mess in Illinois over the pay to play game over Barack Obama's vacant Senate seat I don't expect the governor of New York to appoint Carolyn Kennedy to Hillary Clinton's United States senate seat.
Unless he is just as crooked as so many in high places and appoints Carolyn Kennedy to the vacate senate seat because she is a rich Kennedy.
In regaurd to Gov Sarah Palin being the vise president of the United States I never had any concern over that she would do the same as what Barack Obama is doing if she had to step up to be the president of the United States,having placed all around her people that have the needed experience in every field.
Barack Obama is being sworn in as president of the United States he has actually no experience to be the president he has wrote two books about himself and has served a very-very short time in the senate and while there did nothing notable.
Barack Obama wants to have appointed Hillary Clinton who happens to have experience and has keep on president George W.Bush man Gates so in the event Gov Sarah Palin stepped up to be president she would be doing much of the same things as Obama is doing,so I just could never buy the argument Gov Sarah Palin was not experienced enough to become president of the United States when the democrats are pushing for a man that has actually very little experience and has never been a mayor or a governor,never managed a state and it's thousands of employees,never has signed a bill other then his household bills,so in my opinion the degrading of Gov Sarah Palin was off the wall.
Carolyn Kennedy most of her adult life has stayed out of politics not even supporting the democrat party with her hundred million dollars and failing to even vote so I don't think she has earned a United States senate seat and if the governor of New York appoints her he has failed the state he was elected to wisely serve.
Other wise Carolyn Kennedy has been a upstanding human being,a daughter,sister,wife,mother,a women that has worked in her community and done very good things with her life inspit of her personal sufferings loosing her parents and brother and uncles and so forth,she is a very brave and strong women.
The only problem I see with her wanting to become a United States senator she has not earned the title and there are numbers of people ahead of her that has worked hard to become United States senators and they should be the governor of New York very top consideration and I hope that turns out to be the case because it is the right thing to do.
People that stooped as low as they did in regaurd to Gov Sarah Palin will be just as hateful,mean and nasty if they personally degrade Carolyn Kennedy and it appears this is already starting with that group of people and that will be shame on top of shame in my opinion.







myLot reputation of 65/100. anniepa (9234)   ranked 375 out of 6,373 in politics  1 year ago

Rose, there's one thing I particularly have to disagree with here and that's that if Governor Patterson were to appoint Caroline Kennedy that would make him somehow "crooked". If that is the choice he makes there will certainly be those who disagree with his choice, myself included, but that doesn't make him crooked by any means. In New York, as in most if not all the other states, a vacated Senate seat is filled by an appointment made by the governor. There has been no evidence whatsoever of any wrongdoing by Governor Patterson in this matter. Caroline has made her interest in the seat clear, which I have no problem with that either. It's good that some people have expressed an interest while others have removed themselves from contention before the governor has to make his choice.

To go back just for a moment to the comparisons between Caroline Kennedy or even Barack Obama and Sarah Palin, in my opinion being "qualified" to be President or V.P. isn't only about offices or positions held it's also about knowledge and intellectual curiosity as well as being willing to listen to others' opinions on issues you're not as knowledgeable about. Some saw Palin as lacking that intellectual curiosity and being unwilling to admit when she didn't know all there was to know about something as well as not showing an attitude of being able to "play well with others".
Annie


myLot reputation of 22/100. kennyrose (4052)   ranked 2,963 out of 6,373 in politics  1 year ago

Annie,
The word crooked may have not been the best word to use so let's say appointing any one that is not experienced nor qualified would be a very bad choice for the governor as the job actaully takes both experience and qualifications.
Barack Obama is a very good speaker as well a very good talker except when he stumbles over words as he is thinking about what he is saying.
I don't think president Ronald Regan had government experience and seems he is well respected so being Obama never has held a public nor government office he may fair well only time will tell that story.
Every one has an opinion and mine is with gov Palin she runs a powerful rich state and manages thousands of employees,commands the national guard and her records of budget accounting have always been balanced to the tee.
She seems to be capable of getting along with others and listens to people and their ideas, her staff is made up of republicans,moderates and democrats,she has been a effective governor,gov Palin actually has more experience then Barack Obama and Carolyn Kennedy put togeather.
I think gov Palin's future is very bright and it is actually a blessing she will not be vise preisdent of the United States to me it seems more a curse taking on this country at this time in history.
I heard a guy say today he thinks the governor will appoint Carolyn Kennedy to the seanate seat and if that happens I will look at it as these day's government positions do not require proof of citizenship,experience nor qualifications for a government job.
In the real world for people to get a drivers license they have to have proof of citizenship backed up with two other pieces of official identification,and to drive a car one is required to have experience proved by passing a drivers test both written and physical which makes them qualified if they pass both,in the United States these days a person can be president with out proof of citizenship and be considered for appointment to a United States seanate seat, never holding a government office in their life.
In a nut shell in my opinion the United State has went to hell in a hand basket and the American people have been sold out while the government and wall street brags about bailing out the rich fat cat's,so what the hell they all will do as they dammed well please and the American's as a whole dose not hold them accountable,even votes them back in to office to steal even more.
Far as Carolyn Kennedy if the governor appoints her one thing for sure he did it with out her being either experienced or qualified for the position,so all would be left is Carolyn Kennedy is rich and a Kennedy and that is all the power she needs to get what she wants,it dose not make it right and I for no hope beings she is not either experienced nor qualified she will not be appointed to Hillary Clinton's United States senate seat.





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7. myLot reputation of 76/100. lilwonders456 (1921)   ranked 60 out of 6,373 in politics   1 year ago

Well no she wont be treated the same as Palin. For one she is a Kennedy. Two her father was a famous president that was assassinated. Three people have a very romantic view when it comes to her and her family (the whole camlot thing). People have about her and her family for so long that they feel they know her. As one person here on mylot put it "America's Princess". Plus add to that she is a democrat. Even though she has not real political qualifiations she will be treated with more respect than Palin.

She will probly get the position. WHy? Well because she is a Kennedy of course. She is riding her family name all the way the congress. Now wether or not she is up for the job ...we will have to wait and see. But she will get it over an no name or less known person with better qualifications just because of her genetics. Who says we do not have royality here in America. IF you have the right name (Clinton, Bush, Kennedy etc...) you automaticly get a job in politics.

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8. myLot reputation of 81/100. irisheyes (2931)   ranked 233 out of 6,373 in politics   1 year ago

I just don't see Caroline Kennedy being as lampoonable as Sarah Palin. Also, it would take a Tina Fey caliber comedian to do the job and how many Tina Feys can there be? The cicumstances are very different. Caroline would be filling an interim senate seat. She would not be a hearbeat away from the most powerful job on earth.

In my opinion, she is not qualified to fill Hillary Clinton's shoes and is coming accross as a light weight but I'm not a New Yorker and the choice is not mine to make.


myLot reputation of 82/100. debrakcarey (1351)   ranked 156 out of 6,373 in politics  4 months ago

After reading that Uncle Ted wants the Gov. of MA to change the law back to enable him to appoint his own successor in the event (coming shortly) of his death, it seems to me that we DO HAVE nobility here in the good ol' USA.

I admired the Kennedys for most of my life. I even was raised by democrats. (sorry) There is a mystique surrounding them that no one can deny if they lived in the USA from the sixties on. But the idea of Carolyn Kennedy being appointed on the strength of her name alone is disconcerting to me...kinda like what the American Revolution was fought for...there was a great dislike of nobility and bought and paid for titles amongst our founding fathers and they included in the Consitution that there would not be titles of nobility for that reason. We don't actually give out these titles here in the USA, but we act as if it's ok to have a seat in the Senate just because of her name? Amounts to the same thing as far as I'm concerned.

As for Obama's inexperience....he's proving beyond a shadow of a doubt he's NOT exeprienced enough to run this country. But he is a good puppet for whoever is, if he has a teleprompter in good working order.

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