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myLot reputation of 96/100. ronaldinu (9358)   ranked 135 out of 32,962 in life 4 years ago

This week I was watching a documentary about BTK serial killer in Wichita, Kansas. It really gave me shivers that he managed to kill a lot of people without being captured for almost thirty years. He seemed a normal person. It give me shivers to know that there might be someone like him living in my area. I fail to understand how does a father of two and founder member of a christian protestant church is capable of doing such horrible crimes. What do you think of serial killers?

Dennis Lynn Rader (born March 9, 1945) is an American serial killer who murdered 10 people in Sedgwick County (in and around Wichita, Kansas), between 1974 and 1991. He was known as the BTK killer (or the BTK strangler), which stands for "Bind, Torture and Kill," which describes his modus operandi. Letters were written soon after the killings to police and to local news outlets, boasting of the crimes and knowledge of details. After a long hiatus, these letters resumed in 2004, leading to his arrest in 2005 and subsequent conviction.

 

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1. myLot reputation of 97/100. torchablazed (1561)   ranked 223 out of 32,962 in life   4 years ago

I don't think killers are those whom we can easily identify with like having those dirty odd looking guys, these people like the one you described appear to be "normal". However, their mindset is definitely different from any normal people do, like there are those whose tendency to have a mindset of suicidal or becoming weird in an extreme way are a psychological condition usually associated with traumas they have undergone. Just a two cents though.


Hoshiboshi (31)   ranked 14,211 out of 32,962 in life  4 years ago

Yeah, often serial killers end up appearing normal. I think it might be because many of them have a sort of... rigid... mindset? Very systematic and following patterns, even if there are alot of other strange things going on in their minds.

There are exceptions of course, like Henry Lee Lucas and Ottis Toole, who were homeless drifters. The weird thing about them is no one knows even approximately how many people they killed, as they confessed to killing 600 people (including some who turned out to not even be dead, and some later proven to be killed by someone else), and Lucas later claimed to not be a serial killer at all.

But more commonly serial killers seem orderly and controlled in certain ways. I guess if they weren't they'd also probably get caught before they could become serial killers, as they'd be worse at hiding their tracks.

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2. myLot reputation of 83/100. djemba (606)   ranked 8,223 out of 32,962 in life   4 years ago

Yeah, psychopaths are pretty freaky because you cannot negitiate your life with them and moreover thy kill for the fun of it.
Infact, they have no conscience about the killings that they do and they kill in a very brutal manner. When they kill they give you a long and painful way to death.
Anyone saw Zodiac? It also negotiates about the fact that some serial killers kill for the attention that they receive.

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3. myLot reputation of 96/100. ANTIQUELADY (16514)   ranked 353 out of 32,962 in life   4 years ago

i remember reading or seeing him on tv,it's so dad that someone like him was not caught before he was. maybe the world will get lucky & they'll hang him instead of the taxpayers having to keep his sorry a$$ uo like they do so many. i think it's a disgrace to keep someone like him alive,

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4. myLot reputation of 99/100. pergammano (3556)   ranked 1,264 out of 32,962 in life   4 years ago

These serial killers are mild, compared to the one's we seem to raise on the West Coast of North America! The most expensive trial, ever mounted, in the history of Canada, paid for by the taxpayer, was for a Langley (suburb of Vancouver) pig farmer..."Willie Pickton"! He was convicted of 5 Murders (as they had enough evidence) but was charged with 53! (5 convictions was enough to put him away for life--as we do not have the "death penalty). All were women, involved in the sx/drug trade. Each few months, they add another missing woman to his portfolio! He was your mild mannered, boy next door! Millions of dollars were spent, excavating his property looking for DNA! And then, Seattle, Wash., had the "Green River Killer".....and well over 50 murders of "ladies of the night" were contributed to him....and once again, he was the nice guy "next door." Guess we'll never know, what lurks amongst us! We also had "Ted Bundy."


myLot reputation of 96/100. ronaldinu (9358)   ranked 135 out of 32,962 in life  4 years ago

I am not saying that my island is crime free. However we have not hadthe curse of serial killers up till now. I hope it will never occur here. I bet you would feel safer here.


myLot reputation of 99/100. pergammano (3556)   ranked 1,264 out of 32,962 in life  4 years ago

It is a very sad comment on the "CAUCASIAN" human race! Most serial killers fit that profile! I do not recall a "serial killer" that was not of the caucasion ethnicity! And ladies of the night, seem to be the preferred target! Why...they never explain, other than opportunity/availability....so you would think that would discourage these ladies choice of employment (as just in this area...within 300 miles, over 153 gone.) Here's a loaded question.....is this choice of life-style legalized in Malta...as it is in the Netherlands?


myLot reputation of 96/100. ronaldinu (9358)   ranked 135 out of 32,962 in life  4 years ago

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myLot reputation of 99/100. pergammano (3556)   ranked 1,264 out of 32,962 in life  4 years ago

Hey, bud...I was just "having fun with you" when I commented on that word! sure as H*#l doesn't bother me....remember I work in the construction trades, so my ears have been royally tarnished.

Other point, my dear friend, I was NOT placing a lower value on the lives of the "ladies of the night." Their lives are just as precious, they are/were some-one's beautiful daughter that mistakenly walked the wrong path! I was just noting that for some reason...the perpetual "serial killers" that we seem to have on the West Coast of North America seem to target them!

Sorry, I seem to have offended...and that certainly was NOT my intention!


myLot reputation of 96/100. ronaldinu (9358)   ranked 135 out of 32,962 in life  4 years ago

Nah. It takes a while to offend me. I don't get easily offended. And we are here to exchange ideas even if that means that we does not agree with each other. I am not a dictator and I don't expect anybody else. It seems that we are saying the same things in a slightly different way. I do agree with you that these women of the night are easy preys for such criminal minds.


myLot reputation of 96/100. ronaldinu (9358)   ranked 135 out of 32,962 in life  4 years ago

I meant that I dont expect anybody else to agree with my line of thought. Everybody is entitled to his oer her's opinion.


myLot reputation of 99/100. pergammano (3556)   ranked 1,264 out of 32,962 in life  4 years ago

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5. myLot reputation of 99/100. iskayz (3145)   ranked 6,865 out of 32,962 in life   4 years ago

Oh I am also afraid of those kinds of news. That's why I am so cautious when it comes to talking to strangers. I am careful when going out and I make sure that my house is secure.

There was also a news that I have seen on TV. An engineer and contractor killing of over I think 50 people. His victims are teenage kids and he buried all of them at the basement of his house. It's like his house was built on a cemetery. The scene when the police caught him and pulling out the bodies was really scary.cry

I hope bad people out there will change soon and that God protect us all.


AllenTaylor (40)   ranked 26,828 out of 32,962 in life  4 years ago

I'm more cautious when I talk to people I know. You never know when someone you think you know snaps and suddenly becomes the chainsaw massacre dude.


myLot reputation of 99/100. iskayz (3145)   ranked 6,865 out of 32,962 in life  4 years ago

Hey Allen thanks for reminding me about that.happy Yeah, it could happen that our friends would turn out to be killers.ninja

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6. myLot reputation of 74/100. ilgattofelice99 (172)   ranked 11,755 out of 32,962 in life   4 years ago

Quite often serial killers hide behind the guise of being an ordinary guy, a pillarstone of the community so that suspicion doesn´t fall upon them. They can go undectected for a long time. At least in this case he was finally caught, how many have never been caught and indeed might still be out there, a chilling thought.

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7. myLot reputation of 34/100. LadyWinter (184)   ranked 10,158 out of 32,962 in life   4 years ago

What I found most scary about serial killers is they live among us and most people interviewed say stuff like...he always seemed like such a nice guy. They never seem shady or odd and often have jobs and families.

I truly wonder what turns people into killers. Once upon a time they were someones little cute baby and they grew up and killed many people in horrible ways. Why? What made them decide that they wanted to kill others? There really isnt a pattern either. Some serial killers come from wealthy families and have every advantage, some are not abused as children. Is this something they are born with that is wrong in their mind? And if so why did schools or other people never catch on that something was wrong?

It would be interesting if we could really ever get to the bottom of the whys so we could prevent it from happening....but I think they will always be among us unfortunately.

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8. myLot reputation of 91/100. koharukusumi (852)   ranked 1,269 out of 32,962 in life   4 years ago

I think God created disease to show that human beings are not a perfect being and when they contact these diseases, it just shows how low a human being can be. To me, it just show that we must not take things for granted and work towards making this world a better place. But when human are faced with so many problems. Will they ever be able to have enough time to save the world?

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9. myLot reputation of 78/100. suspenseful (19615)   ranked 1,681 out of 32,962 in life   4 years ago

I think they may have lost their conscience or sense of right or wrong or their values have screwed up so considerably and they are considerably evil people. Now I know there are probably sociopaths and psychopaths who never kill because well, they are so full of themselves and so conceited that they say "if I go and kill those people who are not as good as me, then people will think I am an evil person," etc. but these serial killers are so devoid of conscience and so evil that they will murder people and to use the Church to hide behind makes it even worse.
In fact these scum bags make themselves equal to God and cause many to turn away from Christianity. He was a hypocrite. He was pretending to be a God fearing man but he was not.

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10. myLot reputation of 97/100. dragon54u (15689)   ranked 232 out of 32,962 in life   4 years ago

We could probably be free of serial killers within a generation if we would treat our children with the even same regard as we treat our cars. We recently had a young man who murdered a mom, sexually assaulted her 4yr old son and stole the computers in the house then dropped off the child at a rest area on the highway. This man had lived in foster care all his life, been beaten and sexually abused by his foster parents, was hearing impaired and is probably clinically insane. What if someone had taken him in and really loved him? I doubt he'd be where he is today. A little humanity goes a long way and most serial killers have been mistreated as children.

Nearly all our problems can be solved by treating our children with love.


Hoshiboshi (31)   ranked 14,211 out of 32,962 in life  4 years ago

I think this would eliminate most serial killers, but there would still be a few, people suffering delusions, and 'thrill killers' who act out of boredom and desire for excitement. But I agree that treating our children better would eliminate most serial killers, and reduce rates of addiction, violent crime and so forth. Unfortunately many of the people who hurt their children do it because they themselves are broken and hurt, not because they decide 'ok, this is how I should do things' and are able to simply be caring and loving by changing their minds.

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