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myLot reputation of 40/100. redyellowblackdog (3985)10 months ago

Yes, it is true.

The issue of reparations for the descendents of slaves in the U.S.A. has been raised yet once again. A bill to study the issue has been introduced in the House of Representatives.

http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_HR_40.html#usercomments

I say all living former slaves should receive reparations. All others should thank God their ancestors were brought to America where a black person has so much more opportunity than in any African country. In the U.S.A. a black person can even become the President.

What do you say?

 
 
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Anora_Eldorath (2598) response was accepted on 2/11/2009.
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1. myLot reputation of 91/100. laglen (3730)   10 months ago

First, I agree with you. Living former slaves should receive reparations.
Now I am going to say something that will pi55 everybody off. For all of the others that think they should get reparations, we can give them a ticket to Africa. I would gladly fund this. They are welcome to go back to where they were taken from.
My family has never in history owned a slave. I am descended from gypsys! But if people want reparations, there ya go. Problem solved.


myLot reputation of 40/100. redyellowblackdog (3985)  10 months ago

Thanks, for agreement. Logically, in every way, reparations is completely wrong. One of the things that makes western civilization possible with all its advantages is the learning from the past instead of carrying grudges about the past. Backward societies harbor ancient feuds based on history, not modern first world countries.

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2. myLot reputation of 83/100. K46620 (763)   10 months ago

This is insane. It's not like the African- Americans alive now have been in slavery. This is just a sneaky way to redistribute the wealth. The slavery issue was settled long ago and there is no reason to bring it up again.


myLot reputation of 40/100. redyellowblackdog (3985)  10 months ago

Thanks, for the concise, logical answer.

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3. myLot reputation of 95/100. Barb42 (2704)   10 months ago

I think you'd have a hard time finding a former slave! This has been run into the ground by greedy people. I get tired of hearing this as much as I get tired of hearing the voice of one Jesse Jackson! We all have the same opportunities here in America now. It's just that lots of people don't take advantage of those opportunities.


myLot reputation of 40/100. redyellowblackdog (3985)  10 months ago

I'll bet people like you even think a black person could become President!


myLot reputation of 95/100. Barb42 (2704)  10 months ago

Well, there is one whether I thought it or not. Nothing will change that fact. rolleyes

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4. myLot reputation of 97/100. deebomb (8963)   10 months ago

with all the problems with the economy going on now they should be doing more studies on how to help it not looking for ways to send money to try to fix the past that can't be changed. Just big government looking for another way to waste tax dollars.


myLot reputation of 40/100. redyellowblackdog (3985)  10 months ago

How to fix the economy is not a mystery. Here's how. Government needs to remove the regulations and restrictions designed to hinder the individual and small business from competing with big business. Big business fund politican's campaigns, hence, government favors big business. Just give small business a chance. Studies have long shown that's where real new jobs come from.

What's a real job? A real job produces income that allows the net payment of taxes to the government. A phoney job consumes taxes. Guess which the stimulus bill creates?


myLot reputation of 97/100. deebomb (8963)  10 months ago

Spending money on a study about the past slavery and about hibernating bears will not produce any real help for the economy. I believe we are at fault too because of spending money we don't have such as $80,000 to $100,00 credit card debts, buying houses we can't afford as well as cars and every other electronic toy all on barrowed money.


myLot reputation of 40/100. redyellowblackdog (3985)  10 months ago

Without doubt the financial crisis was caused by too much debt. Debt of the government and individuals. The solution is to take a break from the spending, pay down the debts, and increase our savings rate. Anybody on the national scene other than Congressman Ron Paul suggest anything like that? NOPE!

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5. myLot reputation of 79/100. clrumfelt (1615)   10 months ago

It's an odd thing that after all these years of advancement of African-Americans
they still are taking on the slave mentality and looking to someone else to "give" them what they need instead of earning it themselves. You'd thing somewhere along the line they'd shake off the attitude of entitlement and quit yammering about the slavery thing. I know there are plenty of hardworking African-Americans who have in fact pulled themselves up by their bootstraps to make a better life for them and their families. I am not referring to those individuals, but for the others who keep bringing up the slavery issue I think I'm right with my opinion.


myLot reputation of 40/100. redyellowblackdog (3985)  10 months ago

I think you are right with your opinion, too.

 
6. myLot reputation of 77/100. shopgirl (2924)   10 months ago

I say, if you know your history, then you know when the slaves were freed. The Us offered to send anyone who wanted to go back to Africa back. Many were sent back to Liberia. Here are are a few articles stating that fact:

http://hamptonroads.com/2009/02/retracing-steps-slavery-hampton-roads

http://www.greenevillesun.com/story/301253

And read this article:

http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20090206/ENT/702069940

"Founded by freed American slaves in the early 19th century (its capital, Monrovia, was named for president James Monroe), Liberia was an actual republic for many years, although the last 30 years has been a violent era."

So their ancastors could have gone back but choose not too. It is the fault of their ancestors, not present day Americans.

If they want reparations, give them a ticket to Liberia, a hut and $100. Let them see how lucky they are to live in Africa now.

Some people don't know how lucky they really are.


myLot reputation of 40/100. redyellowblackdog (3985)  10 months ago

Thanks, for the links and the reminder of the beginnings of Liberia. Liberia has the same root as Liberty.

If I recall correctly, much of the violence in Liberia was due to descendents of the original founders of Liberia forming an ologarchy that oppressed the rest of the population. A revolution was the result.

 
7. myLot reputation of 76/100. suspenseful (17051)   10 months ago

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myLot reputation of 40/100. redyellowblackdog (3985)  10 months ago

It is hard to disagree with you when you are right.

 
8. myLot reputation of 69/100. BlueGoblin (1385)   10 months ago

I don't think black people understand how cruel whites were to one another. They just need to study bushwhackers and see how much pro-north whites suffered so blacks could have their freedom. Bushwhackers were skinning union soldiers and hanging them from trees. Bushwhackers scalped union soldiers among other grizzly deeds. We all know how blacks toiled under slavery but we don't see how the white man suffered so they could have that freedom. They want reparations then maybe some of the ancestors of abolitionist deserve some of that reparation money and thank you.


myLot reputation of 40/100. redyellowblackdog (3985)  10 months ago

You bring up indirectly a fact that often goes unmentioned. Blacks were mostly freed by the actions of whites, not blacks. Sure, blacks were involved in the struggle for their own freedom, but it was whites who brought success to the effort.

Abolitionists certainly do deserve more thanks than they usually receive.

 
9. myLot reputation of 99/100. hotsummer (2685)   10 months ago

yeah i totally agree that reparations is more than enough. cause i don't think that many of them are still living . and beside that they have already what they want. i mean their is no more slavery in our present time . our lives now are far different from what we were before. and we equal rights now. i think that some people are just using those issues in the past to get some more financial benefits or gain.


myLot reputation of 40/100. redyellowblackdog (3985)  10 months ago

When you are right, you are really right. Who can disagree with what you have said?

 
10. myLot reputation of 77/100. Lindalinda (2907)   10 months ago

This is a very thorny issue. I know the Germans pay reparations to Israel and have paid money to descendants of victims of the Third Reich that were robbed by the Nazis. Canada has apologized to citizens of Japanese decent that were interned in the interior of British Columbia during the last war. We are also in endless negotiations over land claims by native Canadians who wre cheated out of their land, but what kind of value would Americans put on the damage done to slaves and their descendants?. It is very true that we should be aware of history, learn from the mistakes of the past and as nations try and do better but how far back can a nation go?? The Jews were expelled from Spain under Ferdinand and Isabella and lost their properties.(FERDINAND V (1452-1516), King of Spain, and ISABELLA I (1451-1504), Many people were tortured and put to death during the Inquisition. (1478)The crusaders murdered destroyed and killed.(1096-1270) All of these events left victims and their descendants. So how far back do you go to pay reparations?


myLot reputation of 40/100. redyellowblackdog (3985)  10 months ago

I would draw the line where there are living victims versus the dead of history.

 
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