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myLot reputation of 96/100. modstar (4961)   ranked 135 out of 19,336 in questions & answers9 months ago

I'm watching food channel right now. There are chefs. There are cooks. Is there a difference between the two? Which one is better?

 
 
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1. myLot reputation of 86/100. dexterous21 (788)   ranked 4,299 out of 19,336 in questions & answers   9 months ago

A cook is someone who cooks food while a chef is a professional cook. Chef is better because he or she is well-experienced.


myLot reputation of 96/100. modstar (4961)   ranked 135 out of 19,336 in questions & answers  9 months ago

I was watching "A Cook's Tour". He looked professional to me.


myLot reputation of 86/100. dexterous21 (788)   ranked 4,299 out of 19,336 in questions & answers  9 months ago

The way you look a person is different. Don't you think so? LOL!


myLot reputation of 96/100. modstar (4961)   ranked 135 out of 19,336 in questions & answers  9 months ago

So you mean he is an amateur cook with a show of his own? I think you need to read between the lines.


myLot reputation of 85/100. razcal2267 (9492)   ranked 2,208 out of 19,336 in questions & answers  9 months ago

Anthony Bourdain is a chef. A Cook's Tour is the show he did about traveling to different countries and eating local cuisine from cooks.


myLot reputation of 96/100. modstar (4961)   ranked 135 out of 19,336 in questions & answers  9 months ago

That clears me up. I hope that will clear up dexter's impression on the way i look at people. How's that, the "cook" turned out to be a chef?

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2. myLot reputation of 98/100. onlydia (1609)   ranked 178 out of 19,336 in questions & answers   9 months ago

I don't think so. The pay is what is the big difference. And a collage education on how to cook. My grandmother was a great cook and my mother. They could of been chefs as you put it. You have a good day


myLot reputation of 96/100. modstar (4961)   ranked 135 out of 19,336 in questions & answers  9 months ago

So it's on the matter of degree or level of expertise right?


myLot reputation of 98/100. onlydia (1609)   ranked 178 out of 19,336 in questions & answers  9 months ago

Yes the piece of paper is all. As the chef does boss everyone. And makes up his own meals and you know most of them are mistakes to begin with. That is how we do it in my house a little of this a nd a little of that. So does that make a chef or a woman who is sick of all the samethings. YOur friend onlydia

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3. myLot reputation of 99/100. catdla1 (2686)   ranked 517 out of 19,336 in questions & answers   9 months ago

A cook follows recipes and takes direction from others. A chef creates the recipes based on his or her advanced knowledge of food, flavors and textures and how to achieve the end result they are striving for. Almost all chefs were once cooks, who loved what they did enough to go to the next level.


myLot reputation of 96/100. modstar (4961)   ranked 135 out of 19,336 in questions & answers  9 months ago

Ahh i get it now. It could be that the host of "A Cook's Tour" is looking for ideas fro chefs around the world. thumbup


myLot reputation of 99/100. catdla1 (2686)   ranked 517 out of 19,336 in questions & answers  9 months ago

With enough knowledge and experience, good cooks can certainly become great chefs. And of course, great chefs are worth their weight in...chocolate. You knew I had to sneak that in there, didn't you? lol


myLot reputation of 98/100. onlydia (1609)   ranked 178 out of 19,336 in questions & answers  9 months ago

I don't believe all that. As I make my own up and I'm sure you do as well. Hey we are chefs. I'm under paid I knew there was something wrong with this pic. How are you doing had to pick on you. Your friend onlydia


myLot reputation of 96/100. modstar (4961)   ranked 135 out of 19,336 in questions & answers  9 months ago

Sneak in the donuts too! Let's make a show, "Iron Cook". Lol!


myLot reputation of 99/100. catdla1 (2686)   ranked 517 out of 19,336 in questions & answers  9 months ago

Sounds good to me! As long as it's not followed by a show called, "Cast Iron Stomach". lol

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4. myLot reputation of 60/100. ParaTed2k (4586)   ranked 1,067 out of 19,336 in questions & answers   9 months ago

Think of it as the difference between an architect and a builder.


myLot reputation of 96/100. modstar (4961)   ranked 135 out of 19,336 in questions & answers  9 months ago

Short but precise! Lol! thumbup


myLot reputation of 85/100. marciascott (11745)   ranked 1,076 out of 19,336 in questions & answers  9 months ago

A Good Cooki is a Natrual no one has to tell them how to cook.


myLot reputation of 60/100. ParaTed2k (4586)   ranked 1,067 out of 19,336 in questions & answers  9 months ago

Yeah that's why recipe books don't exist.

What a stupid statement

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5. myLot reputation of 95/100. myralmedo (372)   ranked 584 out of 19,336 in questions & answers   9 months ago

hi:)

yeah me too i get confused on what to call them- a cook or a chef..(love at QTV11 Secrets of the Masters wink...love those chefs)

i research for the meaning of the two wahaha

a cook- a person who performs all phases of kitchen activities including the preparation and presentation of vegetables, sauces, meat, fish etc (desserts:baking, pastry); basi menu planning/costing as well as knowledge of safety, sanitation and food storage and who has a knowledge of human and customer relations.

a chef- sometimes used to mean any professional cook, regardless of rank. ( i think if you are a chef you have specialization? rolleyes)
>Chef de cuisine
>Sous chef
>Expediter (Aboyeur)
>Chef de Partie

hmmm i learned a lot from here in myLot lol

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myLot reputation of 94/100. sharra1 (3032)   ranked 201 out of 19,336 in questions & answers  9 months ago

Chefs can specialise if the wish. The simple difference is that a chef is someone who has completed his/her cooking apprenticeship. A cook is someone who has had the schooling but not done the on the job training. It is also possible that it could be applied to someone who learned on the job but never did the schooling.

To complete an apprenticeship and become a chef you must do both. It is a 3 year course of study involving schooling and working for a chef. Not much has changed except that they no long have to journey to become qualified.

As for the specialisation, that can come later if they have an interest in one particular area. Most restaurants just have chefs but some big hotels and large fancy restaurants may employ more than one chef. These places do have people who just do one area, such as main dishes, pastry chef, deserts etc.


myLot reputation of 96/100. modstar (4961)   ranked 135 out of 19,336 in questions & answers  9 months ago

Hi myra, i'm learning from your posts too! Maybe i should be Chef de Cabrito or goat. Lol! So i guess the title "Chef" is a lot harder to attain, Shar. Whew! Long hard road. Thank you ladies!


myLot reputation of 95/100. myralmedo (372)   ranked 584 out of 19,336 in questions & answers  9 months ago

hi there:)

LOL... yeah i think a chef is kinda if a "highness" cool
thanks too!:)

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myLot reputation of 95/100. myralmedo (372)   ranked 584 out of 19,336 in questions & answers  9 months ago

*of a "highness":D

thanks!:)

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6. myLot reputation of 94/100. sharra1 (3032)   ranked 201 out of 19,336 in questions & answers   9 months ago

The only difference is that one has served an apprenticeship and the other has just been to school. They both do the same trade school course. I used to work at a tafe. In Australia we have tertiary technical colleges that we call technical and further education schools. There is a trade course called a certificate III in cookery, taught by experienced chefs.

If you want to be a chef you sign up with a chef as an apprentice. You do 3 years of apprenticeship to this chef which includes doing the certificate III trade school course. You also work in the restaurant for the chef under his/her direction. To pass the apprenticeship you must pass the course and the on the job training. Once both are passed you are officially a chef and can open your own restaurant if you want.

A cook is someone who has done the same course at trade school but has not done the on the job training part. They have learned all the cooking skills but none of the fancy training that is taught in a professional kitchen. You often find these people working in pubs and ordinary restaurants like sizzlers etc. Chefs like any qualified tradesman cost money to employ.

As to which is better? Both have the same cooking training but chefs are taught how to run restaurants etc as they must pass working in a restaurant for 3 years to be a chef. It is hard work. Some will be better at cooking than others despite having the same training. I am not sure one is better than the other. Some people learn their trade working in a kitchen but can not qualify to be a chef without the school side, others do the school side and then have to gain experience.

My partner is a cook. He has done the course and worked in restaurants but he has never done the apprenticeship side of things.


myLot reputation of 96/100. modstar (4961)   ranked 135 out of 19,336 in questions & answers  9 months ago

Ah huh, so the chefs has done everything the cook has and he's someone we can call complete. I get it now. Hehe..


myLot reputation of 94/100. sharra1 (3032)   ranked 201 out of 19,336 in questions & answers  9 months ago

Thank you for the best response. My job used to be to set up curriculum into the institute database so I have come into contact with the structure of many trade courses.

The cookery course also includes subjects about restaurant accounting and bulk food purchases etc and many cooks have worked in restaurants but chefs are usually found in high class restaurants. The quality of the person the apprentice worked for could also make a difference. It is hard to get these apprenticeships and our institute also ran a course to give students the skills they needed to get that important start. We did that for lots of trade courses and the students could do it as part of their schooling if the wanted to go technical rather than academic. I think it is a good system.

It is just like the difference between waiters who learn on the job and ones who have done the apprenticeship. We also ran a bar and waiting course for people who wanted to be able to work in pubs and needed a licence to do so.

The ones who learn on the job can take orders and set tables etc but the apprentice waiter learns many more skills that you will only find in 5 star restaurants. I think they call it the full silver service. Our institute has its own restaurant where the students practise their skills as part of their training.

It is a wonderful place, open to the public and charges very good prices. I loved the place as we could get 5 star food and service for a very cheap price, including full bar service with cocktails. The only catch was that the workers were all students so there was a risk of mistakes but I think they were mostly 3rd year and there were not many problems. Occasionally they would have a bar and waiting course going through or some other course and they would have really cheap specials.


myLot reputation of 96/100. modstar (4961)   ranked 135 out of 19,336 in questions & answers  9 months ago

The perks of being in the culinary industry huh? You deserved the best response! thumbup

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7. myLot reputation of 96/100. crazyoverpurple (2930)   ranked 247 out of 19,336 in questions & answers   9 months ago

I think the difference lies in the fact that chefs are the TEAM LEADERS while cooks are the TEAM PLAYERS. Chefs can basically handle all stations in the kitchen. They are not limited to only one station. All chef are cooks, but not all cooks are chefs.


myLot reputation of 96/100. modstar (4961)   ranked 135 out of 19,336 in questions & answers  9 months ago

Ah yes! That's quite a common scene. There's always one personality in the kitchen which is a stand-out. More like the maestro in the kitchen.

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8. myLot reputation of 94/100. balasri (9480)   ranked 469 out of 19,336 in questions & answers   9 months ago

Cook is cheap and the Chef is expensive. lolThey do the same thing.Perhaps a cook cooks better than a chef st times. lol


myLot reputation of 96/100. modstar (4961)   ranked 135 out of 19,336 in questions & answers  9 months ago

That's a possibility! But we can't deny the chef's knowledge in the kitchen is more complex.

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9. myLot reputation of 91/100. bombshell (5401)   ranked 123 out of 19,336 in questions & answers   9 months ago

the cook is the a normal cook but the chef is the higher level or most expert.am i correctlol


myLot reputation of 96/100. modstar (4961)   ranked 135 out of 19,336 in questions & answers  9 months ago

Yes, you are correct bombshell! thumbup


myLot reputation of 91/100. bombshell (5401)   ranked 123 out of 19,336 in questions & answers  9 months ago

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10. myLot reputation of 79/100. amoyube1980 (665)   ranked 1,093 out of 19,336 in questions & answers   9 months ago

my culinary teacher once said, a cook is someone who did not go to culinary school..
so basically someone talented enough that he did not need to spend millions to learn to turn on the stove.. hehe..

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