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myLot reputation of 47/100. morethanamolehill (827)   ranked 45 out of 743 in make a difference9 months ago

Simultaneously posted at

http://morethanamolehill.wordpress.com/2009/03/26/the-rich-get-richer/


I have been hearing a lot of what amounts to Hate Speech by the current administration and the Media. Hate Speech towards the wealthy of this country. We even have a Senator calling for the Executives of AIG to commit suicide. Many of them are receiving death threats for receiving bonuses that they may or may not have earned but are entitled to by contract. Barney Frank, the Clown Prince of the House of Representatives has said that he thinks the names of the threatened executives should be made public. Where is the hysteria similar to what was created when someone supposedly shouted threats of Obama at McCain/Palin rallies? This of course did not really happen, but the misplaced hysteria was real.

My reason for writing this post is similar to my "One Bad Apple" story. The Adage "The Rich get Richer and the Poor Get Poorer" Is a copout and a fallacy. In America anyway. This is "The Land of Opportunity". A place where anyone can get rich. Part of the reason that the Middle Class is shrinking is that They are moving into the Upper Middle Class and even the Wealthy Class. Of course I am using these terms arbitrarily since we do not have set "classes" in this country. The "Rich" can become poor and the "Poor" can become Rich. If you have read The book "The millionaire next door" Or "The art of selling to the affluent" By Matt Oechsli, Then you would know what I mean.

Now before anyone asks why I am defending the rich, Let me say that I am not defending a class of people. I am defending FREEDOM. If these politicians can take taxpayers money and give it without conditions to a huge corporation that probably had other options, then express Phony Outrage about how they spend it, Then what is stopping them from determining how much YOU and I make at our jobs. What happens when the government, Who already determines a minimum wage, decides to set a Maximum wage as well? All they have to do is get the Hoi Polloi stirred up into a frenzy over people that make more money than they do. Dehumanize the rich. There was another leader in the last century who used that same technique to convince young men to commit the most horrible atrocities against a class of people for the sake of public good.

Watch the other hand. When a magician makes a big flourish with one hand, it's the other hand you should be watching. That's where the real trickery takes place. When these politicians are going after "the Rich", It's your freedom that is the real target.

 
 
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1. myLot reputation of 97/100. deebomb (8929)   ranked 47 out of 743 in make a difference   9 months ago

It is called envy. You have what I want but I'm not smart enough or ambitious enough or too lazy to get it on my own so you should not have it or give it to me. this government scares me with the way they are railroading bills through congress. Just because the government or the media says it's so doesn't make it so.
I listen to Glenn Beck on the radio most days. yesterday he was saying that acorn loaded up some buses and took them to these CEO's home and calling the media and then having these people protesting. These men have a huge responsibility to their companies. I don't really know what went wrong. but I get so tired of people that envy the rich. Who do they think provides the jobs. If you've got money then you have earned it being smarter and working harder so why should we take it away from them? I believe that we the public caused the problems we are having today by doing just what the government is doing, spending money we don't have with credit cards and mortgages That we the public didn't take the time to read and understand..


myLot reputation of 97/100. deebomb (8929)   ranked 47 out of 743 in make a difference  9 months ago

I forgot to add Glenn's site. http://www.glennbeck.com/... also talks about
bigger bonuses going to Fannie and Freddie run by Barney Frank and Christopher Dodd and Maxine Water.


myLot reputation of 47/100. morethanamolehill (827)   ranked 45 out of 743 in make a difference  9 months ago

Thanks deebomb, It sounds like you "get it" No surprise that you listen to Beck. People call him crazy but only because he says the things they don't us to hear. The trouble is most of those on the left don't care about truth, Only agenda.


myLot reputation of 97/100. deebomb (8929)   ranked 47 out of 743 in make a difference  9 months ago

I think too many people want a quick fix and a hand out at the same time. there isn't going to be any quick fix because it took a long time to get where we are today.

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2. myLot reputation of 98/100. savypat (7540)   ranked 7 out of 743 in make a difference   9 months ago

I agree between the government and the press the fear factor in this country is out of control, if we are not very cautious we will have big government in everything and loose our freedoms. I for one hate being governed by fear, wasn't that what the last eight years were like? I know there are big problems, but if we work together in the spirit that America was founded on we can weather this. Just make sure that if you have you give, that is what we need

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3. myLot reputation of 92/100. glords (1434)   ranked 259 out of 743 in make a difference   9 months ago

then we agree to disagree.


myLot reputation of 47/100. morethanamolehill (827)   ranked 45 out of 743 in make a difference  9 months ago

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4. myLot reputation of 98/100. dragon54u (9355)   ranked 56 out of 743 in make a difference   9 months ago

I started a discussion about wealth envy the other day and I'm happy to say that most of my respondents did not resent the rich, only envied their wealth. Most understood that they got rich through their own efforts and are entitled to keep the fruits of their labors.

The Wealth Envy is a tool to divide us--divide and conquer, you know. The current administration is doing a very good job of dividing us and keeping us so busy putting food on the table and paying our bills that we pay little attention to their unconstitutional antics.

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5. myLot reputation of 40/100. redyellowblackdog (3983)   ranked 268 out of 743 in make a difference   9 months ago

Good post. It will turn on the light of realization for some. We all just need to keep trying to get through to people and eventually we will have a majority to use the system to elect better government.

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6. myLot reputation of 19/100. PrarieStyle (1140)   ranked 23 out of 743 in make a difference   9 months ago

Gosh, I've never hated the rich. I always figured they have it worse than I do. They probably have a hard time sleeping at night because they have more to lose. Besides, if they worked hard at educating themselves and/or worked their way up the ladder, than they deserve what they have.
I was pretty upset at AIG and the others who got bail outs but I don't feel as if the government should bully them or others.
It's sad times we live in, it's as if the world is turned upside down.

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7. myLot reputation of 76/100. suspenseful (17023)   ranked 127 out of 743 in make a difference   9 months ago

Jealousy and envy, that is what it is all about. Except for the vicious criminals, Mafia, the Russian Mafia, and the criminal organizations, most rich got that way by working hard, or by inheriting money and starting businesses, and investing it wisely. We have the same thing here in Canada. When we used to get the Winnipeg Free Press there was always these letters every week and sometimes twice a week by someone who complained that someone made more money then they did. Now the complainant was usually a laborer or someone who had not finished high school, but he was angry that a doctor or lawyer or even a tradesman with a journeyman's degree got $20 or more an hour and he wanted that person's salary lowered to the $7 or less he made an hour.
Once they start deciding on the maximum wage for someone to make, they will also decide on who is the exception. And if they go after the rich and the deserving wealthy, then forget about those they employ. These will be out of work, on welfare, or working at call centers.
Oh sorry, there are few call centers in the States. They are all in India.


myLot reputation of 47/100. morethanamolehill (827)   ranked 45 out of 743 in make a difference  8 months ago

lolcry


myLot reputation of 76/100. suspenseful (17023)   ranked 127 out of 743 in make a difference  8 months ago

I wish people would not be like that and even though I do not like people phoning me to ask me if I wanted to --- I wish they were from here in Canada or in the United States if it is a firm based in both Canada and the States, because I could understand them, they would know what I was talking about, and if we needed something to be done, they would get the credit if they are on commission. And if I wanted something done, we could phone back and say "I was talking to Mary Smith about getting the furnace replaced,etc."(I used to work for a furnace company and they told us that we had to give our first name and the initial of our last name or a code number so that the customer could call back, because usually they had to go downstairs and check the furnace to see if it needed cleaning, etc. and return the call.) and she would get the commission for the call.

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8. myLot reputation of 87/100. shewolf52002 (622)   ranked 269 out of 743 in make a difference   9 months ago

I think you have hit the nail on the head with this one! People quickly forget that there was a time in this country when there was no income tax at all, and when it was first introduced it was only for the elite, or the wealthy. It was not long before the hand of the IRS was in EVERYONES pocket! It is a strategy that has worked time and again and all this broo ha ha about spreading the wealth around will be the same way. First the rich and then everyone else! I pray that someone can stop this before we are in worse trouble.

By the way does everyone realize that the bonuses were written into the bail out? They added it at the last minute and what hoped no one would notice or find out they approved it? Load of bull and the people who contracted for the bonuses should get them unfettered while the politicians who allowed it take the death threats and lose at the next election!


myLot reputation of 90/100. flowerchilde (6809)   ranked 163 out of 743 in make a difference  9 months ago

Aha! It's good to be reminded about how it went with the income taxes...

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9. myLot reputation of 47/100. sndcain36 (2644)   ranked 8 out of 743 in make a difference   9 months ago

That was awesome....

People forget it was the GOVERNMENT that CREATED this mess...businesses like AIG couldn't have gotten away with anything if the damn government hadn't given them bailout money AND forced redistribution programs like the CRA in the FIRST PLACE...




myLot reputation of 47/100. morethanamolehill (827)   ranked 45 out of 743 in make a difference  8 months ago

Thanks sndcain36,

I can only hope that my little article can bring a few more people into the choir.

Pardon my cynicismrolleyes

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10. myLot reputation of 96/100. bing28 (1910)   ranked 270 out of 743 in make a difference   9 months ago

I can related with the rich become richer and the poor become poorer, that's quite true here in our country. The rich have all the capitals to run businesses and get all the oppurtunities to earn better. The poor however remain to where he stands, maybe planting crops, go fishing or any other job that would give them earnings just good for the family to survive a simple living. They become poorer however when a calamity happened destroying their crops losing their harvest and they have no other earnings to cover. They become poorer when they are working as laborers and employer instead of increasing their salaries add addtional charges thereby giving them much lesser income. Oppurtunities are open mostly to those who are rich so who becomes richer? Unlike in other countries, I heard at the U.S. even an apple picker or a dishwasher, a driver can become rich. Why? their salaries exceeds expenses as price of their commodities are low, that salaries are really high even for blue collar jobs. So, in the people's mind to work abroad is the solution but who can go abroad those who have relatives who could petitioned them. Others go on a salary deduction scheme but later you hear complaints of over deduction. Some people from the provinces sold their carabaos and cows and even their pieces of lots just to cover expenses in going abroad only to find out later they fell under fake recruiters, they lost their money and failed to fly. That's life however, some succeed others failed. I just hope someday life would be better for everyone, when the poor get rich and the rich stay richer.

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