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myLot reputation of 99/100. cassandralynn (902)   ranked 1,655 out of 26,919 in people 3 years ago

Me and my husband have been living in a house for about 5 years. Our rent has been pretty stable since 2004. And we are very good at paying our rent on time each month before the 6th ( anything after the 6th is considered late).. And each time we pay our rent we chit chat nicely with our land lady and ask her sometimes to send the maintenance man out to fix things at our house & etc, a very pleasant exchange with our sweet land lady and never once does does she claim or ask that we owe her money when we go into her office . But even thought we are not behind in rent we almost each month, for the past 3-4 months receive notices from her in our mail saying we owe her MANY months of back pay of rent and she also claim's we owe her for this month's rent and I know for a fact we have paid her, infact me and my husband save all of our receipt's each time we pay. But even though we pay she sends out this " how much we owe her money" notice in the mail and we ALWAYS have to call her, usually I'm furious when I call her, and I say " Look why do you send us this letter each month claiming we owe you all of this money, we have receipt's for each month you claim we owe?" and she always say's "Oh I'm sooooo sorry, it was a mistake that letter was sent out to you, I have it right here that you paid me for those months, just ignore it" then when the next month roll's around she does the exact same thing, she sends us another letter saying we owe her all this money for many months past due ( like almost 2 thousand dollars-- which is total lie!) and the vicious little cycle continues. We are very good at paying her on time each month and it really does upset me that she does this because each month we have to call her and say " Don't you remember when I paid you this months rent, I asked you about having my window screen fixed when I was in there paying you our monthly rent?" and she's like "Oh yeah I do remember.." Today she sent us another letter saying we owe her thousands again, which is a lie, we have proof we paid and this time along with the statement saying how much we owe her she wrote a letter saying " You have owed me this money for many months now, I need you to pay it now!" I think she's losing her mind or can't manage her property management business.I'm wondering what my rights are about this situation. Is it legal to harass a renter every month for money they don't owe? I'm at my wits end with this woman's head games. What should I do?

 

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1. myLot reputation of 91/100. giftsandbagscom (25583)   ranked 1,285 out of 26,919 in people   3 years ago

I was getting these notices as well. But,I am on section 8 and they had not sent in their portion at that time. If your not on section 8 I would put something in writing asking for the correction and that it stopped. I would not let it bother me either you know your rent is paid up to date and so would a judge.


myLot reputation of 99/100. cassandralynn (902)   ranked 1,655 out of 26,919 in people  3 years ago

I'm not on section 8.. I'm just wondering if she's trying to rip us off. And I usually ignore the letters she sends, but this time she left a message insisting that we pay her now ,infact right now I'm looking at 2 receipts for the past 2 months of rent we have paid her.. Thanks for comment! :)


myLot reputation of 99/100. cassandralynn (902)   ranked 1,655 out of 26,919 in people  3 years ago

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2. myLot reputation of 60/100. pierone (1127)   ranked 6,532 out of 26,919 in people   3 years ago

Hello friend.
Relax.
Why you simply don't ignore the letter the land lady send you every month?
You know what you already paid, you know what you need to pay and when.
When is time to pay, just pay what you must pay, and get the receipts.
Don't care about her requests, and don't answer her. You NEVER have to call her due she's claiming something she can't claim. So just ignore it.
Pay you rent in time, get the reveipts, and when she give you the receipt say her "thanks Mrs., I'm happy I finally paid these 10 thousands".... watch her face when you will say that ;)
You can kidding her, but you don't need to be worried or angry.
Take it easy. She just spend time and money (if the letter get the stamp) to claim something she can't claim. If she's happy in this way, what's the matter? Just don't care about it ;)


myLot reputation of 99/100. cassandralynn (902)   ranked 1,655 out of 26,919 in people  3 years ago

Hi pierone, I usually do ignore her letters and so does my husband. But this time she wrote a note insisting that we pay her for back rent. What makes me mad about this is when she writes these types of notes I always call her and ask her about the notice she sends out and often she claims " Oh I didn't send that, ignore it, somebody in my office sent it by mistake" but if it was a mistake why did she go out of her way to include a personal note to me and my husband about all of the suppose rent we owe her (and she signs her name to it..?)I can understand if this happens once or twice a year by mistake but this has been a almost monthly on and off ordeal for about a year now.


myLot reputation of 64/100. darkjedi (4347)  3 years ago

Ignore the letter? THats the stupidest thing ive ever heard of. Why would you ignore it? She is obviously harassing them. Time for a lawyer.


myLot reputation of 87/100. zigzagbuddha (1845)  3 years ago

I'm with you pierone! It seems like the whole world has gone mad!!! I would toss the unopened envelopes in the trash and not think a thought more about it! Why get all worked up over nothing?

But if I wanted to play the game with her I would send the unopened letters back to her with 'no such person at this address' scrawled on the outside of the envelope, hehehehe. Or I would send the amount she was demanding back in monopoly money! lol


myLot reputation of 85/100. camomom (3575)   ranked 3,050 out of 26,919 in people  3 years ago

Maybe someone else is sending you the notices. She may not even realize that the note was to you. She may have just overlooked who the notice was too and took the word of someone else that the money is owed to her. They may be ripping you both off and neither of you even realizes it. You may hand her the check for the rent and she may hand you the receipt but then it may get passed on to someone else to take care of. This person may be taking the rent and telling her that you didn't pay. who knows ??????

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3. myLot reputation of 92/100. zandi458 (11483)   ranked 23 out of 26,919 in people   3 years ago

I am an owner of properties which I rent out to people and collect their rent every month but they are some who are hard up and doesn't honor their monthly rent and I do understand their problems and give them grace period to come up with the rental. I don't understand why your landlady threat you in such a manner knowing very well that you're a good paymaster and yet sending out reminders which doesn't make sense. It is of course not a good thing to mentally harass a tenant who is up-to-date with the house rent. You should tell her politely that should she ever send you such kind of letter you would consider moving out. That may stop her from sending you further notices. As a tenant you have your rights.


tashanda (37)  3 years ago

I agree and I would like to add that every city has an organization that specializes in tenants rights I would suggest at you contact them about what to do. you can usually find a listing in the phonebook. Keep copies of the notices just in case.

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4. myLot reputation of 62/100. Anora_Eldorath (3661)   ranked 3,522 out of 26,919 in people   3 years ago

Cassandra-

I'd get an attorney. You can go speak to one generally for free, though some will charge you a $50.00 consult fee (that's about a 1/2 hour). You need to start documenting every conversation you have with her. You should also keep all copies of all of her notes to you, and copies of your checks. Your bank should be able to give you a copy of each check you wrote to her and when they were cashed, her signature or mark should be on the back. Just explain to your bank the issue you are having and get copies.

You may want to look at moving if it becomes worse, but those are the steps I'd take first.

Namaste-Anora


myLot reputation of 60/100. pierone (1127)   ranked 6,532 out of 26,919 in people  3 years ago

My God, you americans are really impossible people!
She ask if is legal, you suggest an attorney.
Why you aren't able to do the easier thing?
Why you need to waste your time, and became nervous for nothing?
She already paid. This is a fact.
The land lady have some problems (at least memory problems), this is another fact.
Just ignoring the letters and pay at the right time (as they usually do) the rent is enough.
Your solution means lot of work, efforts, to get what? just pay the rent.
And the suggestion of move! please!
My solution means 3 seconds to put the letter in the trash can, and pay the rent. And make your life happier ;)


myLot reputation of 64/100. darkjedi (4347)  3 years ago

Damn right get a lawyer.


tashanda (37)  3 years ago

Pierone obviously its not that simple to her! It actually is not legal that is why it was suggested that she contact a lawyer it may not be a biggie to you but this woman feels like she may be in jeopardy of losing her home. It is quite possible that it is more than just a lose of memory somewhere along the line a red flag is going up in the landlady's office in regards to this woman's payments.


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (12221)   ranked 326 out of 26,919 in people  3 years ago

pierone....there's nothing wrong with the idea of her getting a lawyer, if anything for "protection"----what if the landlady sends copies of these letters to a housing authority, and next "letter" she gets is for a court case for eviction...with a lawyer she would have protection and ward off any eviction issues that may ensue due to the landlord despite the fact that she DID pay the rent. A housing/eviction would just see the landlord's letters that indicating she didn't pay even though she did and take that at face value---then she WOULD have to hire a lawyer


myLot reputation of 99/100. cassandralynn (902)   ranked 1,655 out of 26,919 in people  3 years ago

The thing is, this isn't the first or second time she has tried to pull this. Each time she has claim we owe her months of back pay of rent we always have to go to her office to show her our receipts that we did pay and then once we show her proof that we paid she say's " Oh, great! I'm sorry " She does not know how to manage her business.Her paper bookkeeping records never match her computer book keeping records .. I'll check into a free lawyer as well. I think I can get some free legal aid threw my Indian tribe.. I have to double check.


riccinyco (70)  3 years ago

What if she simply ignore the lady letters? If the lady will file her in a court, she have all the receipts to show, and then she will get a lawyer and ask for some remboursment from the lady due of the waste of time the lady procured to her.


myLot reputation of 62/100. Anora_Eldorath (3661)   ranked 3,522 out of 26,919 in people  3 years ago

It never hurts to get legal advise which doesn't cost much or anything, just to make sure that she knows what to do if there is a problem. Best to be proactive and safe than sorry.

Namaste-Anora

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5. myLot reputation of 75/100. mike1976 (1093)   3 years ago

As you have proof of payment I cant see a problem except for the obvious harrassment. Has the landlady got a number of properties? Maybe she does this all the time hoping someone will think they owe extra and pay her. There is either something fishy going on or she is developing dementia or something.


myLot reputation of 99/100. cassandralynn (902)   ranked 1,655 out of 26,919 in people  3 years ago

I can't tell you how many times we have been threw this with our landlord. Same song and dance. She claims we our her all this money, we run down to her office to show her proof that we don't owe her all this money. It happens every 3-6 months for the past 2 years. I'm so tired of it that I'm fixing to chew her head off or just move ( which is something we have been talking about all day)You are right about one thing. She does own and manage a lot of rental property and she even once sent us a invoice saying we yet again owed her thousands and come to find out that this invoice wasn't meant for us, but our neighbor in the house next door!


myLot reputation of 75/100. mike1976 (1093)  3 years ago

Maybe get some form of anti harassment order against her. Do something quick before you go mad and kill her !!!


myLot reputation of 99/100. cassandralynn (902)   ranked 1,655 out of 26,919 in people  3 years ago

OMG Mike, you comment made me laugh so hard! haha.. lolhappy

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6. myLot reputation of 94/100. stephcjh (27638)   ranked 987 out of 26,919 in people   3 years ago

It does sound like that poor woman is losing her dang mind or something. It would get on my last nerve also having to deal with that. I deal with things on the line of that also sometimes but not constant like you are doing. I would consult a lawyer for some free advice as to what your rights are.


myLot reputation of 99/100. cassandralynn (902)   ranked 1,655 out of 26,919 in people  3 years ago

This is getting on my last nerve. I'm so tried of the false claims she's making. I just want to move at this point.She is a scattered brain!

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7. myLot reputation of 72/100. barehugs (5855)   ranked 2,124 out of 26,919 in people   3 years ago

Yes I can understand how her head-games are getting tiresome. Here is what I would do. When you go to her office to pay your rent, Take a card with you or if there is some extra room on your receipt just explain to her that you get upset when she sends you the letter (by mistake) each month. The ask her nicely if she would write on the bottom of the receipt, that you are, "Paid in full, and will not owe her anything more until your next month's bill is due." I cannot see how she can refuse to do this and still maintain that you owe her thousands.


myLot reputation of 99/100. cassandralynn (902)   ranked 1,655 out of 26,919 in people  3 years ago

That's exactly what we are going to do. My best friend also suggest we should go to a office supply store and buy a book of blank receipts and have her sign the receipt when we pay and have her write " paid in full" on our copy of the receipt then give her a copy of our receipt and we keep the original.

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8. myLot reputation of 98/100. marguicha (10884)   ranked 34 out of 26,919 in people   3 years ago

I would not only save the reciepts but also those foul letters. With them, you can ask an attorney what can you do about it. There are surely laws that will protect you. It´s not a matter of ignoring them. You should write her about the letters instead of calling her so that everything is on paper.
Take care friend


myLot reputation of 99/100. cassandralynn (902)   ranked 1,655 out of 26,919 in people  3 years ago

Hello friend,I wished I did have the other letters she sent me last year but my husband got mad when he saw them and tore them up and tossed them in the trash! dohI told him he should of gave them to me to keep, just in case, but he said " Why, we have proof we paid, she can't do anything as long as we have proof"..But I do have the new letter she sent and I'm keeping it.

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9. myLot reputation of 84/100. bournecaindelta (2153)   ranked 4,755 out of 26,919 in people   3 years ago

Simple. Just ignore the letters and do not even bother to call her. Keep the receipts safe and make sure that they are always there to sow that you have paid the rent for that month off. You can also go and personally speak to her about this and give the letters back to her and make sure that she doesn't do this again. I know it's really irritating to get due notices even when you have paid the bills etc off in time.

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10. myLot reputation of 96/100. tamarafireheart (13724)   ranked 4,539 out of 26,919 in people   3 years ago

Hi cassandralynn,



This is harrassement and you must tell her that the next time you recieve another leeter, you are going to your solicistor, then she might stop, as long as you have the reciepts, you don't have to worry, sounds like she is losing it or pretending to lose it. She can sure write those letters though.


Tamara


myLot reputation of 99/100. cassandralynn (902)   ranked 1,655 out of 26,919 in people  3 years ago

Hi Tamara,
That's how I feel totally! This is nothing but plain old harassment!And we have done nothing wrong! We make sure our rent is paid in full each month .Since she can't manage her business right doesn't mean she has the right to harass us because people in her office are not keeping the books correctly.

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