Does your religion teach Hate????

People are at different levels of understanding. I can see you are a good person. Do you depend on your preacher who is a man? Does every word of the bible really add up??? Hmmm? Been out slaying??? Are women in your life second to you???? Lots to think about. Thanks for the comments!!

i don think it is religion. It is the customs of the society and moreover our ENVIRONMENT teahes us to hate others..

Interesting indeed but the truth is that God does not hate!! Seems like you are a bit open to the possiblities rather than memorizing holy books. Always a good thing. You are right when you say believing has never been important to God! Which religion means nothing.Thanks for the comments!!

If God does not hate sinners, as you say, why would he condemn anyone to eternal hellfire? I have a son who is a thief and a drug addict. I hate the things he does and I will not allow him to come around my family because he steals from us every time he does, but I do not hate him and if I had it within my power, I would not condemn him to eternal hellfire and brimstone. Now; I ask you, who is the better father me or God? There's some blasphemy for you!!

Very good comment, unhateful! God isn't really going to send anyone to that fiery pit. It's just like you said. What parent could? God will fix us all in time. Religion and people try to scare those who will not believe. As for those really evil and hateful criminals out there, maybe one day man will understand what turns people like that. Til then, we protect ourselves and teach those all we can. Thanks for your comments!!

Well, let's think. God create the entire universe then decides to censor your music. God has worlds in the universe so far away that we currently can not even see them in our lifetimes but we can not have anything on our skin to hide those wrinkles.The knowledge and complexity of the science of this world is way over the top of our understanding yet to pierce the skin is so important to the scheme of things. Yes, man has always wanted to control other men. God wants you to be free. Be who you must! It's a part of the plan. With mistakes only come lessons. As far as the devil is concerned, where would we all be if we had no one to blame for our own bad choices??? Without some bad choices, how smart could we really be??? Thanks for all the comments!!

Just for curiosity's sake... what is exactly 'ungodly music' and how can you say if a certain song is ungodly or not?

Ungodly songs...lyrics...are those that glorify sin. There are plenty of songs out there that are full of HATE. Music was intended to bring joy to the soul...not hate to the mind and incite hateful actions.
As with all the gifts God has given us...we corrupt and foul them with our hate, greed and lust and pride.

No religion should use the word hate as it is such a diversive and ill-used word.
Everything is in reality shades of positiveness and negativeness. It takes away from spirituality, and any repect, to have petty laws within a religion that really make no difference to the spiritual worth of a person or his activities.

The problem with the holy books is that they are written by man. However, God is in all people thereby also in holy books. There is good in holy books when they speak of love. A subject perhaps we all already know and one hard to mess up. If only man would value love over money and power,life would be much different on Earth. Thanks for all your good comments!

Where are you pulling your information from??? Are you getting this from the bible if so what book and chapter???? If you're receiving this information from another person maybe you should follow up because not all people know what they are talking about. Or if it's your opinion back it up with some reliable sources.

Christianity, Judaism, and Islam - all three tell their followers that they are the "chosen ones", the "children of God", etc. etc, etc.

Each of them teaches that if you belong to the religion and you follow the teachings you will "be saved", "go to heaven", enter paradise", etc. etc. etc.

Each of them teaches that non-believers are "enemies of God", evildoers", blasphemers, etc. etc. etc.

Only Judaism does not teach that you have to "spread the word of God", "bring the world into submission to Allah", "convert the heathens", etc. etc. etc.

Each of these religions is teaching their followers that they are "superior" to "non-believers" who follow other religions.

You do not need a specific "chapter and verse" so you can try to take things out of context. Just sit down someday with the Bible, the Koran, and the Torah and read them from start to finish. You might actually learn something that way.

I'm not sure you're understanding what I'm asking, you have to be pulling this information from somewhere....so where are you pulling this from because in the Bible, which I read on a regular basis, it does not state that the children of God are superior over those who aren't. Yes God did appoint specific people to lead but he didn't choose them because they were Christians, because majority at first weren't Christians. One example being David, who fell in love with a woman who was married so he made plans for her husband to be killed by sending him to the frontline, but in the end he surrendered but was punished. Another being Noah who tried to run away from God and was swallowed by a fish. So when I say back up what your saying, provide a reliable source and not just your opinion. Overall religion does not teach you to be superior, it does teach you to be humble and to love your neighbors and enemies but it's up to that particular person to take heed to it.

Perhaps, religion does not specifically say they are superior but they describe righteousness,they define sin as evil and those who sin as evil. People just love to memorize, follow the rules and it's not long before they deem themselves superior to others. This may not be preached but I have seen it in real life as well. With the feeling of superiority comes the demeaning of others and soon after comes hatred. Hitler moved a nation against the world by making them feel superior so there is great power in doing this. Hatred seems to always follow. All this does not mean that all people in religions feel superior. It's just the superior ones are those who raise all the stink! Very good discussions here. Thanks for all the comments!!

God should not be held accountable for what man does to HIS word...teaching it incorrectly, lying about what it says, misrepresenting His plan of salvation. These folks who do this will have a very hard time when they stand before Him on judgement day...when He says depart from me, I never knew you.

It's my opinion if you want to find the truth, you will. And if you want to disprove the truth...in your own mind, you will. God does not need me to defend HIM. And He won't ask me to defend you either on that day. We all stand alone before him, responsible for what we did with HIS truth.

You make good sense speakeasy. The concept of god, invented my man, is the root of all these problems. The particular dogma of religion causes so much harm.
Impersonal spirituality is at the heart of reality, not ridiculous religious dogma.

God is accountable in everything that has been created. This is not a problem for how many lessons are learned through hate, superiority and the demeaning of others. Hard lessons indeed but without such things could we ever have wisdom. As far as judgement day, people will judge themselves. God will leave no child behind or in a fiery pit. Of course, there are always more lessons. To some it might seem God is not a personal God, but your lessons, parameters of life, even the people in your life have been custom made just for you! As always, your freedom of choice is always there. Choose as you will, learn at your own pace. Your custom lessons revolve around your free choices. Great discussion folks! Thanks!

You make loads of sense, speakeasy. Proselytization, peaceful or violent is the most important reason for religions constantly at loggerheads between each other. Now some kiddo will come up and point some silly verse from his/er book asserting that the book only asks for peaceful conversion. But these people, religiously indoctrined are too naive and do not understand the psychology, which you've very well pointed out. They fail to rationalize that if God indeed wanted His people to behave in a certain way, He could have made it as natural as the human existence! Things would have been different and much better if a religion would have just put up its claims in front of the people. (no issues even if it were in the form of a book)and let the people themselves decide; and most importantly should they reject it, no hue and cry and no curses. I suppose the eastern religions do a fine job, at least in these regards.

"I suppose the eastern religions do a fine job, at least in these regards." I do not know the eastern religions as well; but, you do not hear about them having religious wars, persecuting "non-believers", and forcing conversions the way that Christians, Jews, and Muslims do.

Also, as far as any of the religious works (Bible, Koran, and Talmud) being the "word of God"; God did not write a single word in any of them and the Bible has been "translated" so many times (by men with human agendas) that I personally would not guarantee that God agrees 100% with what is written in any of them.

If you beleive in God and Satan or good and evil - organized religion is NOT the work of God; it is the work of Satan; because, more evil has been done over the centuries (and even today) in the "name" of religion.

How about the work of man? Satan couldn't exist and God is allowing us to make our own choices. Of course, I believe in the interaction of people. That is where the learning comes from. Perhaps the eastern religions should interact more.

"How about the work of man?"

First, if you believe in God you also believe in his opposite; whether you call it Satan, Shaitan, Lucifer, or just plain evil.

I do not believe God wrote these books any more than I believe Satan did. Man wrote them and man and his "free will" have definately been involved ever since organized religion started. So, the "work of man" is definately involved.

However, do you remember the story of Job? God kept out of it and did not interfere. Satan did nothing but interfere. He was constantly butting in and actively harassing and tempting Job.

So, do I believe that Christianity, Judaism and Islam are the work of God or the work of Satan? Obviously, the one that would interfere is Satan; so, it only makes sense that he would create three religions that have destroyed numerous other religions in the past, caused numerous wars, and a great deal of human suffering and bloodshed.

I know God exists but satan does not. Satan is no more than someone to blame for the bad choices people can make. As far as job, well there are lots of stories so that someone can prove a point but they are no more than stories. So many times people only see in terms of good and evil or pleasure and pain but there is so much more going on. Perhaps those are the one's man focuses on. God is very very smart. Knowledge of all kinds stares us in the face. Take a few steps back and really look. Actions have always spoke louder than words. Can you see God's actions?? Just like all the physics of this world add up, so does God have the people factor adding up. Of course it is all complex. Thanks for all the great comments!!

You believe in god but not the devil. Do you believe in the angels? Satan/Lucifer/Devil is just the leader of the angels that revolted against god. The angels are talked about almost as much as god is in the Bible.

It sounds like you only believe in parts of the Bible. I like this idea so I will believe in this; but, I don't like this other idea so it is "no more than stories".

Stories can be true you know. Our entire history is nothing but "stories". Some have been changed to make us look better than we are; but, others are 100% facts - they are all "stories" though. A story does not have to be fiction or a "fairy tale".

Very little of the stories of the Bible I can believe in but since God is in everything, there is some good in the bible. Such common sense like love your neighbor as youself or do unto others one but all the stories about adam and eve and heaven and hell are mere stories. Do angels exist?? I have seen live people here on Earth who are angels. As for the rest, God has many students. Got to be plenty much more advanced in learnings and capabilities than the people of Earth. Are they the cause of all the trouble?>>>> Hardly. The education of God's children will span eons upon eons for there is truly soooo much to learn. Perhaps, that is why we have eternity. So what will you do after eons upon eons when you have learned all that can be learned. Simple>> YOU TEACH!! It's like here on Earth, nobody can do nothing for eternity. Though existing in eternal bliss, doing nothing for eternity might sound great, it could never be reality.

So, WHAT are you??????

From what you are saying you are not: Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, agnostic, atheist, etc. etc, etc.

So, what are you?????

Do you even know what you are????

What am I???? I'm a child of God just like you. Let me tell you something about religions. They all have all the answers> right?> Wrong!! They all do have some of the answers. To find all the answers one can not belong fully to any of them. I am one who looks for answers all the time. I have searched for God. Well, God is really someone. He can be found. As far as answers go, HOW AM I DOING???? So many look for answers yet just follow others depending on them to have the answers. In case no one told you. KNOWLEDGE MUST BE DISCOVERED!!>>>>>>>hope this helps some.

Most of the problem might be in people but it isn't right to find children flawed from birth. It isn't right to say God hates anything. It isn't right to scare people into believing your religion with the fear of Hell.It isn't right to say slay those who won't believe. Who would follow a religion that promotes hate???? Probably more than either one of us together realizes. Thanks for those comments. Gets mighty cold im Minnesota in the wintertime. You can turn your freezer off and use the outdoors.

Some really good comments, THANKS

He did embrace the sinner...but when HE did..the sinner stopped sinning. Because they KNEW they'd been touched by GOD. There was no debate...no excuses...out of great love shown to them...they returned great love and stopped rebelling against the one loving them.

yes, but HE didn't hate them or reject them, did he?

Indeed there are those who are stubborn. Some fight learning. God is unconditional love. There isn't any reason to turn wayward children away. God has no ego to bruise. God will send lessons until we see!! After all, learn at your own pace. There is all the time in the world to learn. We have eternity!! Thanks for the comments!!

To hate is always bad!! OK So God creates a universe so complex and vast that it will take man eons to come close to understanding it all. Why is it so important to God that you believe in Him???? Believing is only imporatant to religion. After all, if you don't believe, you don't need religion. God is unconditional love, teaching you all the secrets of the universe. God cares that you learn not what you believe. Thanks for your comments!!

You are a good person for you see goodness first. Catholics do teach original sin. They teach that innocent children are guilty from birth. To me, it's hate to teach children that there is something wrong with them. Catholics also teach Hell. It isn't right to try to scare people to believe. This is man trying to control man. Thanks for your comments.

I agree with you completely. I have seen cases where women were counseled by pastors and church members and encouraged to stay with abusive husbands as if divorce were so horrific a sin that it was worth sacrificing their lives to avoid it. Yes, God hates divorce, but that's because marriage is a natural type of a spiritual concept. The marriage covenant symbolizes God's covenant and relationship with his people. Jesus is the bridegroom who would lay down His life for His bride.

When a man abuses his wife, he is not being a husband. He has, in fact, already broken that covenant and it no longer exists. Why must the wife be subject to a covenant that has been broken by the other party?

Paul tells us not that women are subservient, but that women must respect their husbands and men must love their wives even as their own bodies and be willing to lay down their lives for their wives. Respect is not subservience. A servant must do as the master wishes, whether a good master or not, but that doesn't mean the servant will respect the master. Respect is earned. A man who abuses his wife does nothing worthy of respect.

I would not tell you that you have sinned. When a husband has already broken that covenant, I see no reason for the wife to be bound to it.

Gender is a parameter of this physical world. If you weren't in your physical body, it would mean nothing. Men and women are equal in God's eyes and should be treated as such. Given that, it seems there is a difference on how a person it treated in this world by people in concern of gender. Once again, just another parameter in the lessons you will learn in your life. As far as people sending themselves to hell, there is no fiery pit for eternity. You just get more lessons. After all If God would allow anyone to spend eternity in a fiery pit, He would be as guilty as sending them there Himself. That would make God a monster. God is unconditional love. He is very smart! God will teach all His children to love unconditionally. He is doing it as we speak. Can you see how???? Thanks for those comments!!

Rollo1, thank you for that. I like how you put it...respect. I have told several men who say that I am not in God's will because I am divorced, because I am vocal and have an opinion, that if I could respect the so called 'men of God' I would not have to be divorced or vocal about abuses of women and children, They would deserve my respect by doing their job as Christian men. We live in a world that looks constantly for reasons to deny and reject God. And we also live in a world where so called 'Christians' are lukewarm and stand for nothing. To afraid of loosing their income or their reputations to follow Christ's teachings. They have lost their power and become tepid at best.

I've read through the posts here...and can understande why the world is in the mess it's in. People have stopped trying to find the truth and just go with what their pride and ego tell them is right. When will we ever learn that human beings have a real terrible track record at peace, love and other fruits of the spirit.