Does your religion teach Hate????  | | As I look over this world, there seems to be so much hate in it. Where does all this hate come from? Is religion teaching you to hate???? We are taught that God hates sinners. Does this give us the right to hate???? We tell our children that they are sinners from birth. No wonder so many feel they aren't good enough!! Isn't this hateful?? I have seen religious people hate others for being atheists,gays,sinners,scientists,abortionists,and simply for not believing exactly as they do. I have seen people angry and hateful over who is right about the same religion. Arabs want to kill people who do not believe!! Even the Bible teaches the same. Luke 19:27 King James Bible. But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, Bring hither, and slay them before me.>>>>>>> Hmmm? I think it is also hate to demean women. Seems like religions make them submissive or secondary to men. How can just people ever think this is right???? Religions place so much importance on their holy books. The hate of man shows through them. THIS IS NOT GOD!!!! GOD IS UNCONDITIONAL LOVE!!>>>>>>>We all have the power to choose what we deem important in this world. What would this world look like if we put people and unconditional love above all else???? This is our world to create. Let's start with ourselves.>>>>>>>>>>what do you think?
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| | | | | | | | 21. shakil8 (315) | 5 months ago | no religion in the world will suggest the word "hate" what i think religion teaches us to love each others help everyone around you........just spread love in the air
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bird123 (1127) | 5 months ago | Religion might not suggest the word hate but actions have always spoke louder than words. There are writings of hate. There are actions of religious people that are hate. You are a good person. You see goodness in all. Teach that to those around you! Thanks for the comments!!
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| | | | 22. Bloggership (682) | 5 months ago | Hates already found on humans since the story of "Kain & Abel" on Bible... Hates is the reason why Kain slaughter its brother... Why he do that?.. Because GOD ignored kain's devotes to show his dedication, while GOD accepted Abel's gift... I know what the reason why GOD only accepted Abel's gift, but at least Kain already tried to make GOD pleased for what he was done was also right... In kain's hearts, maybe it just a matter of justice...
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| | | | 23. andy77e (461) | 5 months ago | The verse in question, Luke 19:27, is a parable. The parable is that of a King would say when he ascends to his thrown.
It is not a verse in teaching followers of Christ how to deal with people, especially since a follower of Christ isn't the king. The only one true king, is Christ himself.
Further, there is nothing demeaning to women in the Bible. In fact, the Bible was completely radical for it's day. The status of women, at the time when the Bible was written, was that of property, slavery, and ownership. The Bible specifically states a man should lay down his life for his wife. Before that, if a man was in mortal danger, he would send out his wife to "appease" those who seek him.
In fact, the high standing of women in our current culture, is a direct result of Biblical teaching.
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bird123 (1127) | 5 months ago | In the verse it is Jesus speaking. As far as women, the Bible does teach that women are to be submissive to their husbands. Being submissive is not equal. Thanks for the comments!!
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| | | | 24. bestboy19 (1358) | 5 months ago | I have been a Christian all my life and have never heard that God hates sinners. If he hated sinners, he wouldn't have sent his Son into the world to save us from our sins. We may tell our children that all have sinned, but we also tell them that Jesus took our sins upon himself and died in our place, because He loved us that much. He arose from the grave conquering sin. I have seen atheists, gays, sinners, scientists, abortionists, and many from other religions hate Christians because of our beliefs and because we done believe as they do. I hope you're not going to judge Christ by one parable. Be fair. Learn all you can about Jesus before you call him hateful. Some religions do demean women, but if you read and study the Christian Bible, you will find that many women had a place of prominence. Choices are ours to make. Whether you love or hate is your choice to make. Don't put the blame on anyone else.
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bird123 (1127) | 5 months ago | I hate no one. I started this discussion because interaction brings out truth. All comments are welcome. I think God counts on sin to teach us all. Christ did not die for sin. Yes, I have seen hateful people on all sides who refuse to listen then respond with hate. Christians do not hold a monopoly on that. I have also seen really great people on all sides. I don't bunch people into labels except one. We are all children of God. Women may have a place of prominence in some cases but the Bible teaches women to be submissive to man. No matter how you put it. That is not equal!!! I could never be a christian for so much of what they are and do does not add up. God always adds up! If you would widen your vision, you might just find God. Thanks for all the comments and no matter what I say or how you take it. NO HATE AT ALL FROM ME!! P.S. what if Christ lived a life of nothing except unconditional love and no one understood. After all Christ did not write the Bible. Man did!!
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| | | | 25. trixyteddy (967) | 5 months ago | Don't come to conclusions from what people are doing. Jesus, our Saviour came into this world to save us. And what did He teach us. Love. It is the center of everything. It stops us from sinning. He loves each and every being that He created, but hates the sins they commit. If He hated sinners, then He would never forgive them. On the other hand, He is so very compassionate and ready to forgive at any time, provided you are sorry. His mercy is so great. I love my Lord Jesus very much.
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bird123 (1127) | 5 months ago | If God is unconditional love, how can He hate?? Next, I could never figure out just what I'm being saved from???? God has this entire thing figured out before the universe even existed. We are all covered. We are all eternal. Save me from what??? The bad choices or sins as you call them are no more than lessons I will learn. Everyone will see in the end. We all will learn to love unconditionally. Thanks for your comments!!
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| | | | 26. andy77e (461) | 5 months ago | Yes it was Jesus speaking the parable, but it was still a parable, not an explanation to his followers on how to treat others. When you say preach hate, you imply the directions given to those who follow that teaching. The verse in question was not a command on how to treat others, but a parable.
Submission, does not imply inequality. When you work at a job, you must submit to your boss. That doesn't mean your boss is not equal to you as a human. Nor that he is special somehow superior to you. Only that his position is different than yours.
You must also submit to the police, yet the police are just people like yourself, but who have a different position than you.
Similarly, Obama is president of the United states, yet he is just a human being like myself. He is no better a person than me, but I must submit to his authority has president.
Woman are not inferior to men in any way. It is in the wife's best interest to submit to her husband. That doesn't mean she is any less of a person in the eyes of G-d.
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bird123 (1127) | 5 months ago | Perhaps men should submit to women for a while and see what happens. I'm told there would probably be fewer wars. Or would this move get all the men fighting??? Yes, everybody wants to rule the world! Thanks for the comments.
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| | | | 27. andy77e (461) | 5 months ago | Actually the theory that women in power would result in fewer wars, doesn't really jive with history. There were numerous wars under both Cleopatra, and the Queen of England.
Further, it's a known fact that men who are completely submissive, tend to not live as long. And women who are very domineering, also do not live as long.
Finely, marriages in which the male is completely dominated by the female, tend to have very shallow and unfulfilling marriages. Not to say there are no exceptions, but in general this is the case.
I happen to have a father who does marriage counseling. Some of the biggest complaints in marriage is "She doesn't respect me", which is a sign of domineering, and a refusal to submit. And "He doesn't love me" which is a normal sign of a submissive husband.
In short, our culture has tried the submissive husband, dominate wife routine, and it's led us to a 50% divorce rate, and broken homes and families across our country. Is it possible G-d knew a better way?
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bird123 (1127) | 5 months ago | The Bible's way might be to have women submissive or subordinate to man but this is NOT God's way. Equality is the only way!!!! We are all spiritual beings in our true natures. Gender is a parameter of the physical world. If you weren't in your physical body, gender would mean nothing. Ever wonder what gender God is????? NEITHER!! So it doesn't matter what holy books or excuses you can come up with, it will never be right until men and women are both free and equal. It might just surprise you how well the marriage will work out if this is in place. The world is like a giant puzzle. Everyone including women hold a special piece. How can the true picture ever be seen if all aren't free to express that which makes them special? Can this happen if women aren't considered equals??? I also have a friend whose husband recently died. She has been so dependant on him now she is lost to do anything. If the relationship had been equal, she would have been standing on her own two feet while still in the relationship. See, there are lots of variables to everything. Thanks for all the comments Oh, I still didn't get what the moral of the parable was for slaying unbelievers.
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| | | | | 28. goriomoriones (63) | 5 months ago | Bird123, it isn't true that God hates sinners. beliefs like that are lies about God. the truth is.. GOD HATES SIN, BUT HE LOVES SINNERS. He wants to save all sinners, that's why He showed the life of love through Christ. So that if we chose to do the same, that we spend our lives loving to others, we will be healed and fit the the kingdom of Heaven in which HATE doesn't exist forever.
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bird123 (1127) | 5 months ago | God truly is unconditional love. I always have a problem when I hear someone say God hates. To send someone to a fiery pit for eternity can only be considered hate. It won't happen. God uses our mistakes, bad choices, or sins if you will, in order to teach us. There is nothing like a good screw up and the consequences that follow to show us the truth about things. No one becomes wise without them. They are part of learning. Thanks for the comments!!
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bestboy19 (1358) | 5 months ago | Bird, it sounds to me as though you want to blame God for your mistakes. He has told us what is right and what is wrong. The mistakes you've made in life are your own. Don't try to but the blame on anyone else.
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cannibal (252) | 5 months ago | BestBoy and Bird, personally I feel it is alright to blame our mistakes on God, if one exists. According to the 'Creator' theory, our behavior is governed by the Creator. He/She/It also is responsible for the conditions we are exposed to. Heck, some also say our course of action is pre-designed by God. In other words, we would become puppets or robots in the hands of God. So, what sense does it make when some religions say that our sins will lead us to hell? What all we do, right or wrong is God's action in disguise and yet we're punished in the after life! We're real scapegoats then! That's why personally I'm against the notion of a Creator. It apparently has loads of loopholes honestly. One question can lead to another and go to the extent of questioning our and the Creator's existence too. Not that I have an a perfect solution against it, but there are eastern religions like Vedic Sanatan Dharma, Buddhism, Jainism and Taoism which on the outset consider God as a product of a force which is based on consciousness. (Eg. Brahman in the Vedic religion) I'm really looking forward to learning that concept, however it's extremely difficult to do so. I don't know if they are right or not, but at least the basic premise looks fine.
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bird123 (1127) | 5 months ago | Little ole me blame GOD?? You simply do not understand what God is doing. God does not blame nor punish. GOD IS TEACHING YOU!!!!! In order to teach any student, they must have free will to choose. So make the bad choice if you will>GREAT!!! Consequences arrive to simply show you just what you are doing. You then say> HEY! I WON'T DO THAT AGAIN!!! Perhaps, so much is learned through trial and error. Remember, we are all eternal so any bad thing that happens is not forever like we are.In the end we learn wisdom from our choices! So me? God has rubbed off on me a bit. I don't play the blame game either. I just care about results. Blame has never solved anything. Education, on the other hand, solves all problems. Great comments everyone. Keep that vision wide and those thoughts open!!
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| | | | 29. andy77e (461) | 5 months ago | As I said before, it is entirely possible to be both equal under G-d, and in submission to someone. The police are humans just like us, yet we submit to them under the authority of their position.
You asked about the morals of the parable, and why Jesus mentioned the king would slay his enemies. Again, this is not teaching on how his followers should treat their enemies. So what does it mean?
It's future tense. Jesus is talking about his return. And He will return. And when Jesus returns, he won't be a carpenter, or a lowly prophet, or laying in a stable with animals. He will return as King. The one true King. And he will do just as he says here. Those that will receive him as King will be rewarded... and those that don't... they will have made their choice.
The world has until then to choose whom they will serve.
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bird123 (1127) | 5 months ago | I thought you knew>> THE POLICE WORK FOR US!! We aren't submitting to them. We are part of the law making> We agree to work together for the good of everyone. The police help protect us from people who consider nothing except themselves. Police are hated but have a tough job. Sure there are police people making bad choices as well.They have lessons of their own to learn. There are very very good police people out there too helping lots of folks.Seems like it's always the quiet one's doing the best job and getting very little credit.Now about the parable, you say your religion isn't about hate but to show up in a slaying mood then slay those who don't believe in you>>>Does this sound like unconditional love to you?????? Religion can scare you with such tales so you can believe but God is not a monster. God will take care of all those wayward kids with a dose of unconditional love followed by lessons to show them exactly what they do. Could you ever commit evil if you truly saw what it is? You have to remember, God is above the EGO of man. Is ruling and controlling really that important???? Seems that is all man wants. Lots of lessons and growing up needed but God will lead us all. We are all special to God. He could never do without His KIDS!!!ESPECIALLY THOSE UNBELIEVING AND SINNING KIDS Thanks for the great comments!!!
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| | | | 30. pyarebhai (161) | 5 months ago | Dear myLot friend bird123, Greetings. when you go through any divin scripture, most of the scripture state that Hate is sin. and the un-conditional love towards the follow being is called as way of life. It was come to known that in certain part of North India(exact area does not known) there were certain caste/sect of people, who used teach their children to hate and murder their reletives like their own uncle to obtain Muskha (libaration)and at the same time, they blem other minority people. we simply has to pray the Almighty, the creator of the world, to save us all from such wicket persons.
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bird123 (1127) | 5 months ago | Hate is sin. I like that! I guess there are those who hate and think it's for God. Some do not even know they hate. God is very very smart. As we teach the people in our lives, they are teaching us as well. Yes, there can be people who choose to do some very evil things. These things hurt us but don't you see, who else will help to teach these people but the good people around them???? There are great souls in this world who will go through great pain and sorrow just in order that another soul will SEE!!!! The dynamics of the interactions of this world are truly amazing. Our vision is so narrow. Can we truly see what our actions really mean to another??? We all learn and grow in time. When we acquire true wisdom, we realize that there really is only one answer.>>>> UNCONDITIONAL LOVE!!! Thanks for those comments!!
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