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myLot reputation of 98/100. victorywp (435)   ranked 869 out of 32,957 in life 3 years ago

59-year-old brian thomas & his wife took a holiday in their camper van. they stopped for the night in a car park when they were disturbed by a rowdy crowd of young people in screeching cars. later in the night, he called the police to make a report saying that he was dreaming that intruders (those boy racers) were in the van & that he attacked one of the intruders (only to realize that the intruder was his own wife).

he admitted killing his wife in their camper van, but blamed his rare sleep disorder. he was released by the judge saying that he bore no responsibility for the killing & described him as a decent man & a devoted husband. whistle

can you imagine a loving husband kill his wife of 40 years while asleep? sad
what's your view over this unque & unusual case? rolleyes

source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/h...

 

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1. myLot reputation of 95/100. kun2349 (10498)   ranked 320 out of 32,957 in life   3 years ago

YEah, i have read about this case on the newspaper about a few days back.. IT's kinda ridiculous, but he cant be blamed too.. For it's a sickness.. and imagine the hurt and pain he's going thru, of knowing he killed his own wife by mistake, or unintentionally?? shocked

It's just like the case of sleepwalking.. One can just jump off the building with they themselves knowing, and died just like that?? Or what happens if they din die, and will he be charged as attempted suicide which is illegal? I dun think so.. haha


myLot reputation of 98/100. victorywp (435)   ranked 869 out of 32,957 in life  3 years ago

not necessarily by mistake or unintentionally. even if he did it intentionally, he still can blamed it on his sickness. oops... rolleyes

yeah, he would be charged as attempted suicide if he did that. but he can blame it on his sickness to avoid being charged. oops again... whistle

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2. myLot reputation of 96/100. drannhh (9930)   ranked 949 out of 32,957 in life   3 years ago

I can imagine him doing it, but I cannot imagine him being innocent. There has been almost an epidemic of this kind of case lately, almost always with a man killing a wife or girlfriend. In one case it was a woman who killed her mother. Personally, I don't think the motive should make a bit of difference. If you kill someone you cannot bring them back to life, so you are responsible. In my view that applies to drunk drivers, sleep-walkers, criminals of passion or anybody else. If it wasn't self-defense then it is still murder in my opinion. So if this man really were innocent, how could he live with himself?


myLot reputation of 98/100. victorywp (435)   ranked 869 out of 32,957 in life  3 years ago

hi drannhh! where is the avatar of your gullible painted friend? lol

yeah i agree with you, i cannot imagine him being innocent. glare

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3. myLot reputation of 85/100. theonehush (529)   ranked 6,978 out of 32,957 in life   3 years ago

whoa!.. i feel terrible for the guy.. he loved his wife so much but he was the reason of her death.. and to think it all happened because they went out for the holiday.. tsk tsk tsk.. poor old man. :( sob


myLot reputation of 98/100. victorywp (435)   ranked 869 out of 32,957 in life  3 years ago

i really pity him for losing his beloved wife of 40 years in that way. sad

but if he turned out to be a liar, i would be sorry for his wife. cry

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4. myLot reputation of 97/100. moonchild1au (2257)   ranked 571 out of 32,957 in life   3 years ago

My first thought is if he's lying or not...he could've resented her for many years for something silly & maybe he justcracked it one night & took revenge...my other theory is maybehe's a violent sleeper as there are many of them around.


myLot reputation of 98/100. victorywp (435)   ranked 869 out of 32,957 in life  3 years ago

sleeping with the enemy? rolleyes

if he is a violent sleeper he should sleep alone in separate room & therefore could not sleep in the camper van. otherwise, he should take on his medicines regularly. thumbup


myLot reputation of 97/100. moonchild1au (2257)   ranked 571 out of 32,957 in life  3 years ago

This is true but I have seen a documentary about peole with sleep problems that didn't even know they were violent sleepers


myLot reputation of 98/100. victorywp (435)   ranked 869 out of 32,957 in life  3 years ago

in that case, they need to do some experiment. get someone to sleep with them & see whether the person got hurt in the next morning. w00t


myLot reputation of 97/100. moonchild1au (2257)   ranked 571 out of 32,957 in life  3 years ago

This is so true


myLot reputation of 98/100. victorywp (435)   ranked 869 out of 32,957 in life  3 years ago

if they are searching for people to do this kind of part-time job, would you consider it? w00t


myLot reputation of 97/100. moonchild1au (2257)   ranked 571 out of 32,957 in life  3 years ago

Nah...I'm not that violent in my sleep - only when someone tries to wake me up lol


myLot reputation of 98/100. victorywp (435)   ranked 869 out of 32,957 in life  3 years ago

lol that is so funny!


myLot reputation of 97/100. moonchild1au (2257)   ranked 571 out of 32,957 in life  3 years ago

Why?? Have you never tried to punch someone in your sleep who is trying to wake you up??? lol i used to


myLot reputation of 98/100. victorywp (435)   ranked 869 out of 32,957 in life  3 years ago

no, i never tried that before. is it fun? w00tlol


myLot reputation of 97/100. moonchild1au (2257)   ranked 571 out of 32,957 in life  3 years ago

dunno - I'm asleep lol but my friend who used to try & wake me up used to try & stay at arms length just in case I punched her accidentally lol


myLot reputation of 98/100. victorywp (435)   ranked 869 out of 32,957 in life  3 years ago

stay at arms length is still not enough. who knows you are a good kicker too. w00tlol


myLot reputation of 97/100. moonchild1au (2257)   ranked 571 out of 32,957 in life  3 years ago

As far as I am aware, I haven't been known to kick in my sleep but you never know...whistle


myLot reputation of 98/100. victorywp (435)   ranked 869 out of 32,957 in life  3 years ago

i have a friend who kicks every 5 minutes when he is sleeping. there is one time i sleep beside him so i found out that he has this unique habit. sad


myLot reputation of 97/100. moonchild1au (2257)   ranked 571 out of 32,957 in life  3 years ago

My daughter likes to sit up & turn around in her sleep so her feet are on her pillow & her head is where her feet should be whistle


myLot reputation of 98/100. victorywp (435)   ranked 869 out of 32,957 in life  3 years ago

another unique creation of God. lol

so she should start sleeping with her feet on the pillow, then she would change the position to the right one later. w00trasp


myLot reputation of 97/100. moonchild1au (2257)   ranked 571 out of 32,957 in life  3 years ago

This is true but I don't think she'd see it that way when I put her to bed

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5. myLot reputation of 85/100. bamrahkirti (1337)   ranked 2,057 out of 32,957 in life   3 years ago

This case is indeed very unusual.I do not know what to say.He is sick and his sickness became a weapon for his wife's death.He must be feeling sick both physically and mentally.May God help in overcoming this tragedy.


myLot reputation of 98/100. victorywp (435)   ranked 869 out of 32,957 in life  3 years ago

if this case is true, it gave me both sad & happy feelings. confused

sad for his wife but happy that he has been released. sadhappy

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6. myLot reputation of 97/100. lelin1123 (9052)   ranked 704 out of 32,957 in life   3 years ago

I have heard of other stories like this and I just can't believe that someone can actually kill someone while "dreaming". That he is not aware of what he is doing. Is it something like sleep walking where you don't even know you are up and around. The only thing with this story that makes me think its legit is the fact they have been married for so many years. I bet if he was alot younger there would have been a bigger investigation.


myLot reputation of 98/100. victorywp (435)   ranked 869 out of 32,957 in life  3 years ago

yeah, i agree with you on this! if they are newly wed couple, there would have been a bigger investigation. cool

since they have been married for 40 years, also according to their friends & relatives, they are really loving couple, i believe that he did not kill his wife intentionally. thumbup

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7. myLot reputation of 99/100. cutepenguin (4885)   3 years ago

No matter whether the man can be believed or not, it's a sad story. I wonder if it means that all married people should be afraid of going to sleep in the same room as their partner?


myLot reputation of 98/100. victorywp (435)   ranked 869 out of 32,957 in life  3 years ago

yes, it really worries people especially for those couples who are just started to live together. shocked

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8. myLot reputation of 91/100. sudiptacallingu (8859)   ranked 434 out of 32,957 in life   3 years ago

I really don’t know what to say…fact is really stranger than fiction. This is the first time I’ve heard of any such mental illness called automatism. Really scary if you know somebody with this disorder…no guarantee what that perfectly normal person would do! Anyway, justice has indeed prevailed…the gentleman will anyway have to carry the burden of guilt in him forever (more so, she was his childhood sweetheart)…it would have been worse if he had to spend the rest of his life behind bars.


myLot reputation of 98/100. victorywp (435)   ranked 869 out of 32,957 in life  3 years ago

yeah, according to their friends & relatives, he is a loving husband. i believe that his sad feeling is much greater than any other person. as you said, he has the guilt in him for the rest of his life. sadcry

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9. myLot reputation of 100/100. paula27661 (11930)   ranked 32 out of 32,957 in life   3 years ago

This is an unusual case and if this man is telling the truth, certainly justice has prevailed and his punishment will be that he has to live with what he’s done for the rest of his life and I know if it were me I would go insane with grief and guilt! If he is guilty he is a murderer and a liar who deserves to be in prison for a very long time and for the key to be preferably thrown away! I guess only he and his wife know the truth and she is no longer here.


myLot reputation of 98/100. victorywp (435)   ranked 869 out of 32,957 in life  3 years ago

that's true, paula27661! there's no witness & only both of them know the truth. since she is no longer here, whatever he said will be taken as the truth. rolleyes

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10. myLot reputation of 95/100. riyasam (10958)   ranked 138 out of 32,957 in life   3 years ago

it certainely is a unique case and very tragic.its heartening to hear that he got out free,obviously his wife trusted him to go out with him alone,maybe he needs a more stringent phsychiatric evaluation.


myLot reputation of 98/100. victorywp (435)   ranked 869 out of 32,957 in life  3 years ago

he has this sickness but he stopped taking his medicine. so it ended tragically. sad

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