Gotta love when the racism of senate Democrats slips out
By Taskr36
@Taskr36 (13963)
United States
January 9, 2010 11:18pm CST
So now comments about Obama made by Senate Majority leader Harry Reid have just come out in a new book.
The authors quote Reid as saying privately that Obama, as a black candidate, could be successful thanks, in part, to his "light-skinned" appearance and speaking patterns "with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one."
I'm sure people on the left will brush this off the same way they brushed off Biden's racist remarks during the campaign calling Obama the first African American that's articulate and clean, but there's a pattern here where a lot of these people in the house and senate just slip up and say things that show how they really feel about black Americans.
Of course Reid has now apologized for his remarks and hey, it only took him a little over a year right?
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11 responses
@poingly (605)
• United States
10 Jan 10
I don't think it's a simple brush off, but knowing exactly the context of these statements is truly key.
If you are doing an analysis the election of the first African American president of the USA and discussion the social climate surrounding it, these sorts of factors do come into play. To elect the first African American, most sociologists have agreed for years it would take one with rather light skin (often a reason Colin Powell was suggested as a potential as well). They weren't saying this things in any sort of racist way but very matter-of-factly (which honestly says more about white Americans than black Americans).
That being said "Negro dialect" does take things a little too far--though the sociological analysis may be sound here too, it would be a very POOR way of wording it. Though I don't understand the full context of these words, I am pretty sure this was more of an off the top of his head/side conversation and not an official statement.

@xfahctor (14113)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
10 Jan 10
I am going to draw fire from some folks for this I'm sure, but Im not gonna make a big issue out of his phrasing either....Im just putting it in context with Reid's age, the generation he grew up in....well..that and the fact that the guy is just a blithering bungling (though calculating) idiot.
MY issue is that if this was say John Boehner or Eric Cantor, they'd be crusified by ever other news outlet and blog, dragged before a committee, people screaming for them to step down or be censiured and sent to Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson on bended knee for pennence and counceling.

@laglen (19759)
• United States
11 Jan 10
I am a conservative and while enjoying the downfall of Reid, I do not see the big deal. I do not see this as racism, I see this as simply stating facts.
from mirriam webster -
racism
One entry found.
Main Entry: rac·ism
Pronunciation: \'ra-?si-z?m also -?shi-\
Function: noun
Date: 1933
1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2 : racial prejudice or discrimination
— rac·ist \-sist also -shist\ noun or adjective
@missybal (4489)
• United States
10 Jan 10
lol... I don't know what the "Negro dialect" sounds like but my husband has a friend he met on a deployment and when he came home they were talking on the phone a lot and I started having conversations on the phone with him and I don't know what the subject was but he all the sudden he asked me "you know I'm black, right?" and I said no not that it matter anyways. He asked me how I couldn't tell he was black by the way he talked! ??? I found nothing unique in the way he talked... we had a long laugh. Seriously... what is a Negro Dialect? If it's the slang talk you see on MTV I've heard that from every different skin color there is.
It's terrible that people have stereotypes like take in their head.

@poingly (605)
• United States
11 Jan 10
Back in the 90s, there were a lot of analysis on "ebonics." I remember watching one special that talked about how "ask" was transformed into "axe" because of how African dialects treat the construction of that sound.
Some foreigners often have this sort of problem, no matter what race. However, a generation or two of a family being embraced in American culture where english is all around usually eliminates this. Some have argued that the fact that certain elements of this still existing in subculture are evidence that more subtle racism still exists (ie, that different races receive a substantially different education not just from parents but also things like teachers--though if slang is that prevalence exists across the races on MTV, it might be a sign that things are leveling out).

@anniepa (27955)
• United States
11 Jan 10
Gotta love how when it's a Republican saying someone stupid anyone who dares to even remotely imply they're in the least bit racist is read the riot act and there's an attempt here to humiliate the person who committed such a sin! I'll tell you what...I'll be more than happy to admit that both Senator Reid and Vice President Biden are horrible racists IF you give me one shred of evidence of it based on their many years of service.
Annie
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
11 Jan 10
OOPS! I hit the post button before I was finished.
You wrote, "...but there's a pattern here where a lot of these people in the house and senate just slip up and say things that show how they really feel about black Americans." In my opinion, it was more like showing how they think many of the voters feel.
Annie



@iamprolife2005 (414)
• United States
10 Jan 10
Off course the liberal Democrats will brush it off. They don't want anyone to see their true colors. They want to keep poor people, black people and anyone else who voted for them in the exact same place that they want them. Under their control, on their "plantation", doing whatever they want. It's the new slavery without the physical chains.
It really bugs me though when people, no matter what color they are, call Obama a black man when he isn't. And what is a "Negro" dialect anyway?
Sincerely in Christ,
Leesa C.
Eph.2:8,9
"A Proud brown Hispanic third generation conservative Republican"
@irishidid (8687)
• United States
10 Jan 10
For those who think the democrats have it all together-they need to visit where I live. The income is the lowest while the property tax is the highest in the state. There are more unemployed, welfare recipients, and all the other social ills. They tell you they want you to work but set up impossible obstacles for you to overcome.
I'm whiter than white but people think I'm Native American. I'm not that I know of-more likely of Black Irish descent. They not only call Obama a black man, but also don't quite get he didn't come from slave ancestors. Of course that's a whole different subject and one that brushes aside many facts.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
10 Jan 10
Actually Poingly it does make a difference to some racists. No, not the in your face KKK type racists, but rather the more insidious ones like Harry Reid who skillfully post as friends of black people to throw off the scent. Keep in mind that it was a democrat, Charles Steele, who felt the need to bring up the fact that Obama had no slave blood during the election. He claimed that Michelle Obama only got treated roughly by the media because she did have slave blood.
Most people neither know, nor care who does or doesn't have slave blood, but people like Steele really do like to focus on what amounts to a meaningless detail.

@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
10 Jan 10
I think Reid hit the nail on the head with his remark about Obama. Obama did not need to be cleaned up in his physical appearance to be used as a perfect figure head to appease black American voters. Obviously with his constant use of a teleprompter he is not allowed to say a word of his own thinking. If he does not get coached on every word he usually says some kind of faux pas. This past election IMO was purely racial.
@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
10 Jan 10
Well, that just further proves that the liberals are nothing more than a bunch of two-faced lying hypocrites.
They have been calling everyone that disagrees with them and 0bamao racists haters and racists long before the election... yet these type of things show who the true racists really are.
I don't like 0bamao because of his ideology, not because of his ethnicity...
@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
11 Jan 10
I am a little tired of the "hey, sorry... I apologize for letting you know how I really think instead of being careful" type of excuses for these things. I am tired of the fact that the Democratic Party considers black Americans "theirs" and a voting bloc that belongs to the Dems. The real racism is in the Democratic Party, it shows every time they propose that they will do more for this minority or that minority than the other guys. That doesn't mean that programs which benefit minorities are wrong, but policies should be good for all America and all Americans. Programs that aid poorer students to get educational boosts are good for all America, for example. We need to realize that our social programs must do more than just appease one group or another. What's bad for America is this divisive demarcation of voters, as if we all should vote just to get what's going to benefit us specifically without regard to the harm it might do to the nation as a whole.
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
11 Jan 10
I remember when this was first said....I cringed. This was beyond "bad wording". His implications that Obama was a good candidate because he was not "too black" and "cultured" instead of "ghetto" were playing into stereotypes that african americans have been fighting against forever. He might as well said Obama is a good candidate for president for the black americans because he was a slightly darker skinned looking white person. That he looks and acts "white". Does that mean that "darker skinned" americans can not be president or a good candidate just because their shade of skin is darker than Obamas? I find that offensive and I am white. People should not be judged they their skin tone....but Reid was doing just that.That is what I get from his comment. Bad, bad, bad.
That is like saying Hilary Clinton was a good candidate for women for president because she looks and acts like a man. That she is not femine and pretty. Therefore she would make a good candidate. Heaven forbid a woman be femine and pretty AND SMART. IT plays into the same stereotypes that women have been fighting for years. And I can bet the feminist would have eaten him alive for a comment about hilary or pelosi like that. Therefore I feel Reid needs to be eaten alive by the african american community for his beyond wrong statements.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
11 Jan 10
I agree with everything you've said except this:
"I can bet the feminist would have eaten him alive for a comment about hilary or pelosi like that."
They would not have eaten him alive. They would have rushed to his defense the same way Al Sharpton, the NAACP, and the Congressional Black Caucus have because he's a democrat and they'll let the letter D excuse anything and everything he says or does. I think Alan Grayson has made that abundantly clear after calling a female advisor to Ben Bernanke a K Street Wh0re.
If a republican senator said such remarks about a black man, or a woman like Pelosi or Clinton, than yes, feminists would have eaten him alive. Remember, Trent Lott was forced to resign after saying he thought Strohm Thurmond would have made a good president.
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
11 Jan 10
I know. Lotte gets eaten alive...Reid gets a pass... It shows the double standard. IT also shows how Reid feels about African Americans...why the fight for him or others like him I will never know. I guess racism by republicans is bad but racism by democrats is ok. Personally I don't think racism is ok at all. But that is just my opinion.
@izak1399 (103)
• New Zealand
10 Jan 10
I don't know a whole lot of what went down. Harry probably would never have apologised unless the book came out. so no surprises that it took him this long to say sorry about it. He probably forgot anyways. I doubt you would remember comments you made to a wannabe president almost 2 years ago.










