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myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (12221)   ranked 239 out of 32,950 in life 2 years ago

I sometimes wonder like what the heck is going on in the world and with people. It used to be that parents might "discipline" their children by giving them a spanking, nothing more. I guess I was sort of a brat as a very young kid as I got my fair share of spankings, not from my mother or grandmother, but the "disciplinarian" of the family...my great-grandmother who took care of me while my mother and grandmother worked.

Well, today I heard this story of a 52-year old man, James Moss of Staten Island, who suspected that his 9 year old son stole some money from his wallet. So instead of a spanking, or maybe "grounding" the son" he punished his son by taking his son's hands and holding them over the stove's burner, causing second and third degree burns, also hit his son with a wooden spatula, then shoved his son in the oven and threatening to burn his son alive...like WTF???????

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I mean what kind of person even thinks of this as a means of "punishment"? Is is me or does the world seemed to be getting crazier, or are we just hearing more of such things due to the media?

 

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1. myLot reputation of 95/100. Hatley (48775)   ranked 956 out of 32,950 in life   2 years ago

HI pywacket oh my that's angryjust sickening how could anyone sane be that cruel. and over some damned money. The man must indeed be insane as no sane person could do that to his own child. spanking maybe but to deliberately burn that child.You do know what the real punishment should be,make him stand with his damned hand over a lit burner for 120 seconds so he can maybe realize what a fiend he is and then stuff him in an oven and make him think he will be roasted alive. sounds gruesome but thats what he did to a poor little boy. Maybe the world is getting nuttier every day. oh that was so horrid. I hope he never gets to be around that child again ever. He needs to rot in jail. I wonder where the mom was in this case, or maybe the insane dad did away with her too. could be.devilevil grin


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (12221)   ranked 239 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

There doesn't seem to be any mention of a mother anywhere. If there is maybe he was abusive to her too? Anyway, no matter what "crime" a child does, no child deserves this kind of punishmentthumbdown

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2. myLot reputation of 90/100. thess0312 (296)   ranked 4,417 out of 32,950 in life   2 years ago

That's FOR REAL?! That is COMPLETELY inhumane. I don't understand how parents would be able to actually live with the fact that they hurt their children this much. I'm sure that this child will remember that for the rest of his life, and he probably won't even look at his father the same way. I feel bad if I even yell at my kids. My goodness, I wonder what's going to happen to the father now. :o


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (12221)   ranked 239 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

I'm just guessing this poor kid is going to develop a real phobia about fire and stoves in general. From the article it seems for now the father is in Rikers Island prison and held without bail...there doesn't seem to be any mentioning of a mother in this story so wonder where the kid is now?


myLot reputation of 90/100. thess0312 (296)   ranked 4,417 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

Yeah, that is exactly what I'm wondering. I just hope that the kid is safe. :[

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3. myLot reputation of 99/100. ElicBxn (24681)   ranked 106 out of 32,950 in life   2 years ago

Well, there was a time when news was so bad that people could kill other people and get away with it...

There was a time where this would've been considered extreme, but also a kind of "eye for an eye" type punishment.

I'm not going to say I approve, I don't. I'm not saying it was all right then, because it wasn't.

I would hope we would have "matured" enough as a race or society to not do STUPID things like this guy did, but obviously we aren't.

So I hope this worthless piece of trash masquerading as a human is never allowed to be around children again!


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (12221)   ranked 239 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

It certainly seems that despite our so-called sophistication, we as a society haven't "matured"--if anything I think things are getting worse and we're going backwards instead of forward


myLot reputation of 99/100. ElicBxn (24681)   ranked 106 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

Honestly, I think the over crowding is making people crazy


myLot reputation of 89/100. rinzgca (239)   ranked 9,551 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

no, i think it was the money that made him crazy. He was so concerned about the lost money that he didn't care what he did to his son. Poor boy. I hope he is doing fine despite everything.

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4. myLot reputation of 84/100. cerebellum (2869)   ranked 6,275 out of 32,950 in life   2 years ago

shockedToday kids aren't disciplined enough but this is cruel and unusual punishment. How could anyone hurt their own child like that? I don't have any children and I can't imagine doing that to a child. I wouldn't even do that to my pets! I wonder where the mom was when all this was going on. Maybe she is just as crazy as the dad must be. I think we do hear more due to the media, but people seem to be getting worse, on the news or not.


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (12221)   ranked 239 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

I think a lot of parents are "afraid" to do any kind of discipline nowadays as even a spanking might be considered "child abuse", but this father doing what he did to his son is really sick. You're right, I never even punished my cats through the years so can't imagine a "punishment" like this for a child

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5. myLot reputation of 99/100. Opal26 (14496)   ranked 376 out of 32,950 in life   2 years ago

Hey pye~ Another really sicko father that needs to stay in jail
for child abuse and hopefully will never see his son again! And
again, where was the boy's mother when all this sickness was
taking place? WTF is wrong with this world? And thank God he
was taken to the hospital, but by who? Did the father take him?
Somehow I doubt it! And at least he did confess to this haneous
crime and thankfully didn't turn on the oven! I just don't even
know what to say anymore! I just get sick when I hear these
stories and can't believe that these people have children! I
hope that this child will be able to be given to a nice family
who will be able to help him forget the torment he has already
gone through! I pray for this poor little boy!


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (12221)   ranked 239 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

There doesn't seem to be any mentioning of the mother and where she was in all this, and I wonder who has the kid now, unless he's going to a foster home for now--I think this sickos punishment should be the same ....hold HIS hands over the burner


myLot reputation of 99/100. Opal26 (14496)   ranked 376 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

Oh! I am so for an "eye for an eye"! I wish that they would
do the same punishment to this man! But, sadly they never do
and I just pray that they never give the boy back to him no
matter what! He probably is in "protective custody" at the
moment, but depending on that state's law it might only be
temporary!

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6. myLot reputation of 91/100. giftsandbagscom (25543)   ranked 663 out of 32,950 in life   2 years ago

I heard of someone who put a child's hand on the stove for stealing before. I have never heard of the rest of this happening. I think stealing is very bad as well. but,the poor child did not deserve to be treated this way. Life is getting hard for all of us and kids are getting their fair share of it. Poor kid.


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (12221)   ranked 239 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

I think a simple spanking or grounding the boy as punishment could have been used, but certainly not this form of punishment

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7. myLot reputation of 95/100. OreoCookie3 (22470)   2 years ago

OMG!!! The article said he allegedly held the boys hands over the fire for 120 seconds.. 2 FREAKING MINUTES!!! Allegedly???? Is the boy's 2nd and 3rd degree burns alleged burns? That father deserves the same thing done to him.


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (12221)   ranked 239 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

I often think when I hear of horrendous animal abuse cases, that the same punishment done to the innocent animal should be done to the abuser, so yup, in this case, this father's hands should be placed over a burner for two minutes

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8. myLot reputation of 97/100. sarahruthbeth22 (15801)   ranked 338 out of 32,950 in life   2 years ago

I think it was better when parents felt they could spank their children.All these alternatives are dangerous.


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (12221)   ranked 239 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

That's the problem though, many parents are scared to spank kids since people might cite "abuse"--but certainly better than what this father did

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9. myLot reputation of 98/100. OceanTiara (6977)   2 years ago

Pye

I once knew a man that told me this happened to him when he was a boy..they put his hand over a hot burner for stealing a bike..well borrowing it you know.

Not getting in the oven part, but the hand over the burner.

I will never forget him telling me that and I didn't know what to say..He also had been in and out of the mental wards and also escaped from one indeed.

True story..

So I believe these crazy less than humans that do these things have always existed it is just now we have more access to hear about them.

I feel so bad for the child..breaks my heart to think of how he is going to cope with this experience all his life.

I have lived through much abuse in the outside world, not in my own home, but once I got out, I have cared for several abused children, and it hurts me beyond words to hear these things. I have heard many 'secrets' both from children and adults about abuses suffered at the hands of nutcases like him.


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (12221)   ranked 239 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

Yeah, no doubt we're hearing more of not only child abuse, but animal abuse via the media. Makes me wonder if the father abused animals, since usually child abusers started out as abusers to animals


myLot reputation of 98/100. OceanTiara (6977)  2 years ago

Indeed Pye, I wonder why that is..there is a correalation between the two most definitely.

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10. myLot reputation of 93/100. SViswan (5864)   ranked 1,479 out of 32,950 in life   2 years ago

I'm hearing more and more such cases....it could be because of the media and things are coming out in the open....I can't be sure of that, though.
I'm seeing a lot of parents around me being irresponsible, harsh...brutal...etc.
I don't know what's come of this world. Everyone seems to have so much pent up negative energy and the easiest target seems to be the children!


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (12221)   ranked 239 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

yes the media might be the reason we hear more abuses towards children (and animals) than before, but yes, maybe what is going on too, is a lot more "negative" energy out there in the world, if that makes any sense

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