is your country too big?

@jb78000 (15139)
July 16, 2010 4:15am CST
it has been suggested many times that the cultural problems in the states all boil down to scale. the average state is indeed the size of a country, with natural race and social issues. do you think they should be more independant?
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19 responses
16 Jul 10
My country is not that big but I don't think its necessary because everyone in the world needs help.We maybe have different cultures but all together we become one in times of troubles.You think so mylotters.
@jb78000 (15139)
21 Jul 10
i hope so, but i am not sure this is what always happens
@dsrp82 (676)
• Brazil
16 Jul 10
Brazil is big... I wish it was smaller, I dont know why... I dont know if it's a good thing or a bad one.
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@jb78000 (15139)
21 Jul 10
i think it depends. too big sometimes just seems too much.
@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
16 Jul 10
You talking about the US again? I've been in favor of California independence for a long time. why? Just because...
@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
20 Jul 10
Maybe I should just go to Scotland and form a rebel alliance there. Nope, too cold, maybe not....
@jb78000 (15139)
20 Jul 10
that sounds dangerous. don't give dawn ideas. any movement with the words 'independence' 'army' or indeed 'california' in it likely includes 'freedom fighters'.
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@jb78000 (15139)
20 Jul 10
what, the caledonian independence army? . anyway we already have the snp
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@sulynsi (2669)
• Canada
16 Jul 10
Define "big" Canada has two provinces that are often talking about succession, one that already views itself as separate. Though its land is huge, dwarfing many European countries, for example, it is by no means "big" when you consider how few people live here. The States is "bigger" than us, but "roomier" than say, UK. I mean, look what crowding has done to them?! Why not hop on over, and move in. There's plenty of room for your ears!
@jb78000 (15139)
19 Jul 10
what has crowing done to us? anyway there are plenty of open spaces left.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
20 Jul 10
JB, I don't think you realize how crowded European countries are from the perspective of Canadians and Americans. We have a completely different concept of personal space compared to you guys.
@sulynsi (2669)
• Canada
19 Jul 10
[i]The States is "bigger" than us, but "roomier" than say, UK. I mean, look what crowding has done to them?! Why not hop on over, and move in. There's plenty of room for your ears! [/i] you don't KNOW from open spaces, bunny
• United Arab Emirates
16 Jul 10
Yes my country is too big. I has around 28 states with 26 different languages, 2500 dialects, and people of different beliefs.
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@jb78000 (15139)
20 Jul 10
[checks country, uae], didn't know you had so many languages.
• Canada
20 Jul 10
You think the States are a problem? Try coming to Canada. Most of the provinces are twice as big as any State.. And one province is basically a different country. They are trying to separate from Canada. Not very convenient considering that would leave a nice big gap in the middle of our country. and They all speak French. Some of the States probably should be separate too.. Haha, I would imagine there are many issues there with diversity and culture.
@sulynsi (2669)
• Canada
22 Jul 10
I live east of Quebec, but all my family are in Ontario! It would sure be a nuisance.
@sulynsi (2669)
• Canada
21 Jul 10
which side would you be stuck on, if Quebec did separate? west or east? Great, then we'd have to have a passport to go east AND south! *sigh*
• Canada
21 Jul 10
On the west side. Well as long as there's no need to travel to the maritimes, we would be okay, haha.
• Australia
19 Jul 10
Hi Blue Bunny. Australia and USA are roughly the same in area, with USA just marginally larger. The big difference is in population. Australia has almost 21 million people where USA has over 299 million. However, since most of our population lives on the coastal fringe (mainly on the SE coast) our populated areas are similar to those in America. Another similarity is the mixture of national backgrounds. While both countries were initially populated by the British we now both have many different cultures. If each State in America was independent, would it make any difference? I doubt it. I think the same problems would still exist. As far as I know, each State does have its own laws as well as the National law (as in Oz). I think if each State was autonomous and had different regulations it would cause more problems and maybe even civil wars. At least now all are united as one nation.
@jb78000 (15139)
20 Jul 10
it would be very different - you'd definitely have the same problems but on a smaller (and more manageable?) scale. i don't know if it would be better or worse for them. probably both.
@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
21 Jul 10
Compared to what? It's all relative isn't it?I see the United States as being the right size for states. How does Australia fit into your scheme of things then...eh?
@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
22 Jul 10
Fair enough!
@jb78000 (15139)
22 Jul 10
doesn't. it is kind of an awkward shape. maybe should be squared off
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@xfahctor (14113)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
18 Jul 10
Governed properly, this shouldn't be an issue here. The problem is when we started governing as an empire rather than a republic. As a republic, we are essentially 50 sovereign nations who created an agent (the federal government) to tend to some common business and affairs. Our founders were pretty clever like that. they created a system in which we could grow and not have it be an issue because each state as it was added was already set up with a mostly autonomous government. The problem comes when we start ignoring that system and look more and more to our city-state empirical center of governance (Washington D.C. and the federal government) rather than leaving most things in the hands of the state governments.
@jb78000 (15139)
20 Jul 10
there was some worry about europe going the same way, although i don't think that is going to be a problem.
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
16 Jul 10
hi jb I myself do not think that at all, but there are always bigots anywhere you go who are down on all people who are not white american single protestants, wasps we call them.I mean even if they were more independant somethings never change.I myself do not think we are too big but too diverse, and we all need to learn to work together as a country, But I guess that will never happen either.Right now we have the two parties, Democrats and Republicans still digging at each other and making me want to scream forget it,we are all just human beings and citizens of the United States.I guess I never really think about our size as I grew up in South Dakota on a farm and towns were far between and we often had to drive sixty miles to do any big time shopping as ou r home town had only 1300 people in it. lol lol.We were used to traveling a distance to get what we needed.
@jb78000 (15139)
20 Jul 10
the area i grew up was similar - in fact my hometown had fewer people than yours (1,000, probably more now), and you had to travel miles to do anything. anyway i have heard of wasps - they sting, but a good fly and wasp killer will sort them out...
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
17 Jul 10
I don't know that race and social issues in the U.S. are state specific but, rather, believe that they are more socio-economic specific. Lower income and urban areas seem to experience more discourse than higher income and suburban/rural areas. Since every state has it's fair share of both, no one state is any better or any worse than the other in this area. While it's true that there are some extremely large states in the U.S., they are all independent members of the Republic which makes up the United States. We wouldn't want any of them to break away. That would give the country an odd shape on the world map.
@jb78000 (15139)
20 Jul 10
oh no, you wouldn't want that. if they break away get them to do so evenly - ones on the outside first. neatness is important.
@cynthiann (18612)
• Jamaica
16 Jul 10
Well since it took a war to bring them all together as one nation under God I seriously think that that it may be wise for you to jump on trigger and leave town post haste.I am being kind when I say that it is probably the chemicals in th carrots that is making you like this. Walks off singing: [b]"All we need is love la da da da" [/b] It is the silly season where I work. Must be a hurricane in the air. The owners/tenants are fighting with each other and me. Go off for 3 weeks and they all get out of control. And these are the beautiful people who are now writing naughty words on each other others cars etc. Working 12 hour days (no overtime) walking around like a policewomen trying to keep the peace. dodging bullets on the way. Have a great day and remember to leave home and under no circumstances give anyone your forwarding address. Word of advice: under no circumstances ever take the Micky out of my adopted country. Do so at your peril. You would be on someone's hitlist
@cynthiann (18612)
• Jamaica
19 Jul 10
@jb78000 (15139)
19 Jul 10
how scary. yet advice that i won't pay any heed to.
@sulynsi (2669)
• Canada
19 Jul 10
...for which we are all grateful. For reasons of our own.
• United States
17 Jul 10
No, I don't think the states should be more independent, although there are areas where they should have more say because each state faces different problems that they alone should be allowed to correct.
@jb78000 (15139)
22 Jul 10
ah, missed a box, now i understand something. anyway i'd say states having more say does really mean more independence
@Torunn (8606)
• Norway
18 Jul 10
My country really isn't big enough. We should take back all the land we once had, it's not a lot of people there anyway, they probably wouldn't object very much either :-) As for the states, the problem isn't really the size, is it? It's that they're filled with Americans. Can't do much with that ;-)
@sulynsi (2669)
• Canada
21 Jul 10
A bear?! lol which one in particular are you thinking of? excuse me, don't forget the beaver, and the caribou, its a caribou on the back of the quarter and a beaver on the nickel! And DONT forget the loon, our illustrious loonie (which for the uninitiated, is a dollar coin) AND we have a QUEEN on EVERY coin! She's also our national "bird" to quote a colloquialism. We, on PEI anyway, claim the mosquito as our provincial bird. At least from May to October. We know EXACTLY what to do with the excess land we have! ANd when THAT happens, snicker (politely of course) and say, yep, you're welcome to it. See you in the spring! We're going south. there are no national sterotypes! what are you talking about, eh?
@jb78000 (15139)
20 Jul 10
you can get donations of land from the states, and especially canada. they've got more than they know what to do and likely would be delighted if you took it off their hands.
@Torunn (8606)
• Norway
20 Jul 10
But that would take away part of their national stereotype: big forrest with moose, bear and not a whole lot of people. National stereotypes should be kept and cherished ...
@laglen (19759)
• United States
16 Jul 10
I think our country is just fine, Maybe it is yours that is wrong. For crying out loud, every two miles is a new one..... Regarding our states independence, they already are. It is the Federal Government that is not wanting to recognize our states sovereignty. I believe that problem just may get cleared up very soon..... heres hopin!
@jb78000 (15139)
19 Jul 10
maybe it will, then everybody will be happy.
• United States
16 Jul 10
We were set up that way. If you read our constitution it has specific powers to the feds and but the majority of power to the individual states.
@jb78000 (15139)
21 Jul 10
i had gathered it wasn't really like that anymore..
@o0jopak0o (6390)
• Philippines
16 Jul 10
well i think in our country, the size is too small for the population and almost half of the country is made of rugged terrain. well there is a somewhat of an isolated rebellion in one of the biggest island here. And if we give them more power locally, they can grab that island and make it there own.
@jb78000 (15139)
21 Jul 10
that means there is not much land actually liveable. not surprised it feels overcrowded.
@dboman (457)
• United States
16 Jul 10
No the country is not too big, the government is. Yes. I think the states should be more independent. That's why I'm always advocating for limited federal government and for state's rights. For quite a while, there has been a movement for centralized government. Often, Europe is used as an example of why the federal government should be expanded here in the U.S. What is clearly neglected in this argument is the size, demographic, and geological differences that the U.S. has compared to Europe. I can tell you from experience that the Northeast (where a very large portion of our population is) and the Southeast have drastically different cultures, but the Northeast is constantly trying to push their culture on us as if they "know what's best for us". Even further, the West Coast is very different than the Midwest and they're both different from the NE and SE. When the federal government initiates "comprehensive" and "nationalized" laws, it ignores the many differences within the country. That's why I'm on the side of "limited federal government". If you don't like the state laws, you can move to another that fits your lifestyle. You can't do that with the federal laws. In my opinion, the federal government is an oppressive force. Good discussion.
@jb78000 (15139)
21 Jul 10
you can have a loose union but be effectively independent countries. over here there is an odd situation with scotland (and wales, and n. ireland) where we have increasing independence, which is just as well because nobody wants to be governed from down south by a party nobody voted for, and in some ways it is a separate country and in some ways not. mainly not, at the moment.
• India
16 Jul 10
i think my country isn't big.but it is big enough for me.hehe.i love my country.
@jb78000 (15139)
19 Jul 10
good attitude