Military Time Makes Things Absolutely Clear

@porwest (112717)
United States
October 22, 2024 2:49pm CST
Being a veteran, I've had a few people suggest military time was just a way to make time seem more, military-like. I usually laugh when someone says that to me. No, actually, military time is a way to make it absolutely clear what time you mean without having any confusion whatsoever, or having to remember if someone said AM or PM. "The meeting will be at 1700." There is no other time this can mean EXCEPT for 5PM. Period. End of story. You can't say, "Oh, I thought you meant 5 in the morning." Nope. That would be 0500. When things are clear, there's no room for interpretation or confusion. And by the way, here's another little tidbit of interest, perhaps. We don't ever say "hours" in the military. That's something relegated to people in Hollywood and people who don't know how military time is stated. "The meeting will be at 1700 hours," is something you will never hear a commanding officer tell you. It's simply 1700. Nothing more. Now you know.
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@kaylachan (84701)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
22 Oct 24
I find twenty-four hour time confusing. I can see your point of view, about there being no confusion between morning or night, but If I have to think in twenty-four hour time I'm doing a lot of counting in my head to figure it all out. And, there wouldn't be confusion if people used a little common sense. But, humans don't always do that.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
22 Oct 24
It's common knowledge once you deal with it every day and know. Besides, the math is REALLY easy. 0100-1200 is 1am to noon. You just subtract 1200 from the time and voila. You know the time. 17 minus 12 is 5. Thus, 1700 is 5pm. 22 minus 12 is 10, therefore 2200 is 10pm. What you don't want are confused troops. "The shores must be stormed at 8." Next thing you know they show up at 8pm and it was supposed to be 8am. The planes all showed up for ground cover at 8am, but you weren't there. lol
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@somewitch (1470)
22 Oct 24
@kaylachan While I've always lived in country where 24 hour time is the norm, I sometimes get confused too. For example, I might confuse 9 in the evening with 19 (7 PM) as there's a nine. I don't even bother doing the math. But that's a minor inconvenience, I've never been too early or too late because of that.
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@kaylachan (84701)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
22 Oct 24
@somewitch I can't speak for other counteries, but I know the 12-hour clock is the norm around here. So that's how I learned to tell time.
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@RasmaSandra (97912)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
22 Oct 24
It did sometimes get a bit confusing for me when I lived in Latvia, The time was military time and you learned to know what 13:00 and so on meant throughout the day,
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@TheHorse (238268)
• Walnut Creek, California
11 Aug
It takes only a second to do the "conversion"if you were raised non non-military time.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
11 Aug
@TheHorse What the heck is non non-military time? lol
@porwest (112717)
• United States
23 Oct 24
Once it becomes engrained in you, like most things, it works like clockwork. Pardon the much-intended pun. lol
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@LadyDuck (502148)
• Italy
23 Oct 24
We use the 24 hours time here in Europe, right now it is 13:41 and not 1:41 p.m. When I read 12 pm or 12 am I am always confused, while 12 is noon and 24 is midnight, there are no doubts.
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@LadyDuck (502148)
• Italy
23 Oct 24
@porwest You are right it is confusing. When I talk with people using the 12 hours time I always say "noon" or "midnight" at least we know what we are talking about. And 1 am is not late night, but early morning.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
23 Oct 24
Yep. It avoids all confusion. But yes, I can see where some people may be confused on the 12s. Noon is PM and midnight is AM. What confuses people even more is if someone says they went to bed at 1 am on Tuesday, they ACTUALLY went to bed at 1 am on WEDNESDAY. lol
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
23 Oct 24
@LadyDuck Correct. Yep, if you go to bed at 1 am you went to bed, technically speaking, the following day, not the former one. lol
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@lovebuglena (52142)
• Staten Island, New York
23 Oct 24
How do you say midnight in military time. Is it 2400 or 000?
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@lovebuglena (52142)
• Staten Island, New York
25 Oct 24
@porwest I missed a zero I see.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
26 Oct 24
@lovebuglena You should be shot at once. lol
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
24 Oct 24
For us it was "zero hundred," written out to be 0000.
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@Deepizzaguy (122067)
• Lake Charles, Louisiana
22 Oct 24
Thank you for sharing this information about military time since it is cleared what it is.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
23 Oct 24
I always like to share little tidbits from time to time. After all, I need something to post about. lol
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@2ndchances24 (12188)
• Cloverdale, Indiana
22 Oct 24
I could never get use to military time, husband tried to live with that when we got married & I told him I can't deal with it that needs to change.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
24 Oct 24
In many ways, I think military time is much easier to fully understand. It leaves no room for error or interpretation. No AM or PM. So, no confusion about what time the troops should all be there. No room in the logs to forget to put an AM or PM to create confusion about when the log entry was made and so on and so forth.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
26 Oct 24
@2ndchances24 No. But at the same time, I think you can understand how it could be much more efficient and less confusing.
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• Cloverdale, Indiana
24 Oct 24
@porwest we don't live on military time.
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@GardenGerty (169406)
• United States
23 Oct 24
I did not know about not saying hours. I should have. Both of my hubs have been military.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
11 Aug
Yeah, it's a common mistake Hollywood makes that civilians tend to mimic. We didn't add the hours part. It was just the time and nothing more.
@rakski (156200)
• Philippines
23 Oct 24
it easier to use but since we normally use the 12-hour format, it became a challenge to compute
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@rakski (156200)
• Philippines
24 Oct 24
@porwest well, when you put it that way like you said in your post, it is easy. But since not all practice that the adjustmest is not easy
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
23 Oct 24
It's really just simple math, and I actually find military time to be far easier to comprehend.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
11 Aug
@rakski Once you understand it, it's very easy, and much easier, I think, than the usual way of telling the time.
@xFiacre (14782)
• Ireland
22 Oct 24
@porwest Crystal clear. But then how do you get my women folk to realise that 07.00 hours is when the big hand is at 12 and the little hand is at 7. No other configuration of the hands can be called 07.00. If the big hand is at 3 then it is no longer 07.00, it’s 07.15 and that’s a different time. I gave up a long time ago with this.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
23 Oct 24
But if the big hand is on the 12 and the little hand is on the 7 on the second half of the day it would be 1900, not 0700. Then, if on that same second half of the day the little hand is on the 3 it would be 1915, not 0715. 0700 and 0715 would be 7:00AM and 7:15AM respectively while 1900 and 1915 would be 7:00PM and 7:15PM respectively. lol
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@TheHorse (238268)
• Walnut Creek, California
22 Oct 24
Well Boy Howdy! Is that a photo of 10:10 AM? Or PM?
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@TheHorse (238268)
• Walnut Creek, California
23 Oct 24
@porwest Military time makes sense to me as well. Don't Europeans rely on it?
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@lovebuglena (52142)
• Staten Island, New York
23 Oct 24
@TheHorse I don’t know if all of Europe uses military time but Russia does.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
23 Oct 24
A mystery that I presume will never be solved. lol
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@JudyEv (381739)
• Rockingham, Australia
23 Oct 24
Thanks for the info. I didn't know about not mentioning 'hours'.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
23 Oct 24
It may be different in other countries. But in the United States, the military doesn't use the "hours."
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@Dena91 (17029)
• United States
23 Oct 24
Growing up and still having family/friends in the military I learned military time early on. Thank you for your service
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
23 Oct 24
Honored to have served more than for the honor for having served, as I always like to say. lol. Military time to me is much clearer in use, but of course, most applications don't use it.
@LindaOHio (222222)
• United States
23 Oct 24
Now I know. Have a good day.
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@LindaOHio (222222)
• United States
24 Oct 24
@porwest It helps when I watch trivia on the Game Show Network.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
23 Oct 24
For what it's worth I have no idea, but don't we all have a ton of useless information buried in our brains? lol
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
11 Aug
@LindaOHio That can help sometimes. lol
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• Defuniak Springs, Florida
22 Oct 24
I wish military time was taught in schools.
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• Defuniak Springs, Florida
23 Oct 24
@porwest Most jobs I have had we used military time because it was easier on the time clock.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
11 Aug
@thislittlepennyearns Most time clock accounting is done in military time as well because the math is far easier. Started work at 0800 and left work at 1700. 1700-800 equals 9 hours. Granted, minutes are still a bit more difficult since 32 minutes in a payroll calculation would be 0.512.
@porwest (112717)
• United States
23 Oct 24
It should be. I agree. It's much more useful, I think, and far more clear about what time you want people to be somewhere.
@wolfgirl569 (135583)
• Marion, Ohio
22 Oct 24
It is clearer.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
23 Oct 24
Thanks. I am glad I could help.
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@thelme55 (79311)
• Germany
23 Oct 24
Since living in Germany, I have to learn the military time as the Germans use time like the military ex.18 Uhr(time) Before, I always got confused.
@aureategloom (11025)
• Bosnia And Herzegovina
22 Oct 24
military time is used in Bosnia and that's how it's written in written notifications, mails, news, phones, computer etc. but the thing is most people don't use that when they're talking. "let's get coffee around 5?" - of course i mean in the afternoon, why would we have a coffee at 5 in the morning? you understand what time they mean just from context the only "problematic" ones to understand are 7, 8 and 9 - because those are normal hours for mornings and for evenings
• India
23 Oct 24
I was not aware you were a military veteran! There are so many things we can learn from military time and from military personnel. First is discipline. My dad studied in military school. Throughout his life no matter what day , he would get up at 0400 and have his morning routines completed by 0700. He made it a point for having fixed time for the breakfast, lunch and dinner and family must be there together during the time , no matter what happens! I hated the "discipline: part when I was a child , learned to appreciate as I grew older. Again, one feature I did notice with most military personnel is less talk and more action. Salute to you sir!
@somewitch (1470)
22 Oct 24
I come from a 24 hour country and one hour that confused me was 12, morning is always AM until noon. I always thought it was strange, I expected 12 AM after 11 AM. I know AM means Ante Meridiem, before noon, but noon itself is not before nor after. Then 12:01 is PM, eventually I got why it was like that, and got used to the 12 hour system in general.