My Daughter Is A Killer!!!

@Rozie37 (15505)
Turkmenistan
June 27, 2008 10:14pm CST
And I have no problem with that. My youngest son is a robber and I am encouraging him to be proud of himself. My husband is an adulterer. I told him, why should he have to only come home to me every night. My oldest son is a homosexual who is marrying his lover, whom we have gladly welcomed into the family. What is the difference between these four things? Nothing, sin is sin. So why don't we encourage our love ones to do the first three things also.
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@cyntrow (8527)
• United States
28 Jun 08
To equate murder, theivery, and adultery to a man who loves another man for life is stupid. You have serious issues, rozie. God is love. Gay people were made by God. What right have you to state the homosexuality is wrong when God created it. Geez, hon, get an education. for your son's sake. You are bi. You are the reason he's gay. It's in the genes.
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@Rozie37 (15505)
• Turkmenistan
28 Jun 08
First of all, know it all, I was trying to make a point. I do not have any children. I like I said sin is sin. The Bible says, let God be true and every man a liar. If God says it is a sin in his word, you can deny it til you are blue in the face, it will still be a sin. I am very well educated and stupid never did apply.
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@cyntrow (8527)
• United States
28 Jun 08
Again, GOd doesn't condemn his gay children. Man does. You do. You hate the part of you that is attracted to women and you condemn gays on that scale. I pity you. So does God. I pray he opens your mind. I don't know it all, but I do know this subject. Best of luck to you.
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@sid556 (31018)
• United States
28 Jun 08
OMG, Cyntrow, I can feel your fire...please...let this go. Her ignorance is not worth getting your blood boiling. Breath deep and walk away. REad this entire thread and you will see the humour in her calling YOU the know it all.
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• United States
28 Jun 08
You are not god. So dont judge. Your gay son is not hurting anybody else. Big Difference.
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@Rozie37 (15505)
• Turkmenistan
28 Jun 08
I do not have a son. I was just attempting to make a point.
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• United States
28 Jun 08
You dont have to ignore your son just because he is gay. Love him anyway. Jesus would.
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@Rozie37 (15505)
• Turkmenistan
28 Jun 08
Ha, ha, ha. You are so funny. I am not ignoring my son. I have never given birth, because I have never been pregnant. I knew at least one person was going to do this.
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@fiona08 (454)
• United States
28 Jun 08
In the first place, homosexuality is not a sin in the eyes of everyone. We all have our own beliefs on that. The other things you mentioned are wrong in the eyes of the law. And the most important difference is that the other things you mentioned hurt other people. Homosexuality does nothing to hurt you, or anyone else in society. It is not a choice. It is inborn. They should be free to live the way they want to.
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@Rozie37 (15505)
• Turkmenistan
28 Jun 08
Homosexuality hurts no one???? Are you sure about that?? Let me prove you wrong. It hurts all of society. It totally destoys the family structure-the way God intended it to be. It hurts a mother and father when they find out that their child is gay. It hurts the children to grow up with two dads or two moms. You think that it being legal is going to make things better. But I guarantee you things are about to get worse than ever. Remember that you have been told. This is not the way things were designed to be. It causes nothing but confusion and America will pay dearly.
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@fiona08 (454)
• United States
28 Jun 08
You have not, nor ever could "prove me wrong" on that. If you honestly believe the family structure of man, woman, and children is so fragile that it will be destroyed by letting gay people live in peace, I think you have a very distorted idea of the percentage of homosexuals compared to. heterosexuals. Heterosexual families will still go on being families, so they will not be destroyed. And children raised by two dads, or two moms do better in most cases than children brought up by heterosexual parents who cheat on each other, or fight. And they also do better than children raised in a lot of foster homes, or in orphanages. I consider myself warned by you, but I think your warning is of no value. It is full of fear of the unknown, and bigotry. You would do well to worry about your own sins, and leave others to deal with theirs.
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@Rozie37 (15505)
• Turkmenistan
28 Jun 08
First of all, a lot of people assume that God's children serve him out of fear. I ask you, fear of what? I do not fear God, he is my father and he loves me and I love him. I use to be a lesbian. I tried to change before, because I was afraid of going to hell. Believe me, that never worked. All it did was make me angry and frustrated. I was able to successfully change when I loved God so much that I wanted to live a life pleasing to God. Until you have experienced this kind of relationship with God, it is unimaginable.
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• Australia
28 Jun 08
Homosexuality isn't a choice, it is genetically determined. Having the capacity to love, and have that love returned, is one of the greatest things we are capable of as humans. I have several homosexual friends, and their love for their partner is no less meaningful that the love between heterosexual couples.
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@Rozie37 (15505)
• Turkmenistan
28 Jun 08
You have believed the lie of the enemy.
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@Rozie37 (15505)
• Turkmenistan
28 Jun 08
You know what perplexes me, people are always talking about what scientist have done?? Are they greater than God?? Did not God create them, just as he did you and I? Are they perfect?? Yet people believe what they "discover," over what the word of God says. All I say is that if you have to see and feel to believe, then not to be rude or mean, but you will see yourself in hell and feel the fire. The Bible says that without faith it is impossible to please God.
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• Australia
28 Jun 08
I am far more comfortable believing the word of scientists over 'the word of God' because the bible is not written by God, and therefore, all the information can been deemed distorted, influenced by the writers thoughts and feelings. If God comes to tell me directly that homeosexuality is wrong, then I will respect his belief, but still disagree. Until that happens though, I refuse to even entertain it as a sinful thing. Also I would much rather spend my time in hell for who I am and what I believe, than spend it with a God up in Heaven who doesn't accept people as they are. As to pleasing God, I don't live my life to please God, I live it to be the best person I can, which to me, means accepting people the way the are, and not forcing them to try and change.
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@judy43 (299)
• United States
28 Jun 08
I agree with you Rosie. Well said
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@Browisn (782)
• United States
28 Jun 08
The answer is simple and the most controversal topic of our erra. The difference is that sin is no longer a deterrance in our society. Anyone, and I will probably be an example here, who preaches the penalty of sin is ostrasized. So, if an action is not against the law it is OK.
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@Rozie37 (15505)
• Turkmenistan
28 Jun 08
You are 100% right. But I am one of those people who does not mind being ostrasized. I am prepared to die for what I believe and I know that I may have to.
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@Browisn (782)
• United States
28 Jun 08
Well, as you know everyone will die. I only pray that we can maintain our faith until our time comes.
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@Rozie37 (15505)
• Turkmenistan
28 Jun 08
I know what you mean. The Bible says he that endures to the end shall be saved.
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@Hatley (157426)
• Garden Grove, California
28 Jun 08
rozie homosexuality is not a choice for the homosexuals,its something that he or she is born with, the rest of your argument is valid. those are all sins, robbing, cheating, killing these are all wrong. but being homosexual is not a crime or a choice,the person is born that way. I am a hetersexual as I was' born that way. I do not look at my homosexual friend as a sinner, he is a very kind,compassionate fellow that has been our family friend ever since he was a kid.I call myself a Christian but I do not accept the idea that homosexuality is a sin as it is not,its been proven.
@Rozie37 (15505)
• Turkmenistan
28 Jun 08
Well I call myself a child of God and homosexuality is just as much a sin as any of the rest of them. I use to be a lesbian and I CHOSE to give up that lifestyle. I did it because I wanted to live a life that God would be pleased with.
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@sid556 (31018)
• United States
28 Jun 08
God would be really pleased with this thread and seeing how judgemental you are. Maybe he'll make you his personal assistant or did he already? from the sounds of it, looks like you already got your promotion and are on the stairway to heaven. Kudos to rozie!
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@Rozie37 (15505)
• Turkmenistan
28 Jun 08
No I am not his personal assistant. I am his child. I am not judging. All I am doing is telling you what the Bible says and giving you the opportunity to judge for yourselves. If you believe that I am wrong, so be it. It will not cause me to lose any sleep.
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@sedel1027 (17868)
• United States
28 Jun 08
You can believe whatever you want, but there is no place in the Bible that states that God is against homosexuals. Secondly, you are born gay or straight. Hands down. It is in our DNA, that has been proven. It IS NOT a choice. You can not reform someone who is gay any more than you can really reform someone who is a pedophile. http://www.otkenyer.hu/truluck/six_bible_passages.html
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@Rozie37 (15505)
• Turkmenistan
28 Jun 08
Read the book of Romans chapter 1 and then let me know what the Bible says about homosexuality.
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@cyntrow (8527)
• United States
28 Jun 08
What did Jesus say, Rozie? the answer is nothing. If it meant that much, He would have addressed it. Are you a Christian or a Paulinian?
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@Rozie37 (15505)
• Turkmenistan
28 Jun 08
Let's not mis-quote the Holy Bible now. Romans chpter 1 verse 26 says,(and I am typing this from the actual Bible) For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. LIKEWISE ALSO THE MEN, leaving the NATURAL use of a woman, burned in their lust FOR ONE ANOTHER, MEN WITH MEN committing what is shameful, and receieving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.
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@sid556 (31018)
• United States
28 Jun 08
The first 3 things hurt others. The last hurts no one at all. The first 3 things are dishonest. The last one only wants to be honest and be himself and society makes that very difficult.
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@Rozie37 (15505)
• Turkmenistan
28 Jun 08
Whatever. All you are doing is repeating what someone else already said. but you are still wrong.
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@Latrivia (2890)
• United States
28 Jun 08
No, actually, Sid is quite right.
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@sid556 (31018)
• United States
28 Jun 08
I hadn't read the other responses prior to posting so I guess then that proves that the minority is right. That's ok....i don't mind being counted amongst the wrong.
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@gwoman2 (712)
• United States
28 Jun 08
You, Rozie are a sick individual!! And since I cannot personally do anything about you being here on myLot I will choose to never, ever read anything you spew! I've read all the responses you received here and myLotters, as always, have come through... I have to say, again, there is something seriously wrong with you and your warped views. From what I read you insist that you have no children, well I've got to say, yeaaaaaaaaaaaa, you don't need any children to inflict your warped thoughts on and thank God for that! God loves all beings...who the heck do you think you are to post such a discussion? You are warped Rosie, yep, warped. There is nothing I can add that hasn't already been written and so I leave you with this... Get some professional help, you really, really need it! ~G~
@Rozie37 (15505)
• Turkmenistan
28 Jun 08
Thank you.
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@urbandekay (18314)
28 Jun 08
gwoman, your words are full of hate and judgment, physician heal thyself. all the best urban
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@gwoman2 (712)
• United States
29 Jun 08
Urbandekay, you are absolutely correct and I humbly apologize to you, to myLot friends and most of all to Rosie :-( You are probably not going to believe this but ever since I posted my response I haven't been able to get it out of my mind...I cleaned my house and my daughters with Rosie and my response ever present and I was planning on posting an apology to her when I logged in and saw your response to me :-( Seriously I am sorry. I let my anger at her words get to me the way nothing has in a long, long while...Here in Jersey many of my daughter's friends are gay and my daughter is a bit confused about her own sexuality after having a most imperfect relationship...she is 18...I really don't have any issues as to what gender she dates, the problem is so many negative, unexcepting peoples that surround us, it's really a shame that many of these young ladies have absolutely no support from their parents or otherwise. I honestly feel that whatever choices my daughters make will not change my love for them in the least...oldest is 32...I accept them as they are and I don't critisize, belittle, or show any disdain for their choices in their personal lives and that's because I don't feel these things. I should have respected Rosie's opinion as an opinion and I of all people should know that we are all entitled to our opinions right or wrong. We should agree to disagree and leave it at that. I am ashamed of myself for my behavior earlier this A.M. and I wholeheartedly apologize. ~G~
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@pillusch (1149)
• Mexico
28 Jun 08
As I understand it, Rozie37, we are all sinners, beginning at birth due to the original sin. And there is a growing body of scientific evidence that some people are born homosexuals. Could you, and mind you this is an honest question, explain to me how homosexuals are supposed to live then? Do they have any chance of going to heaven, or are they doomed from the start. Again, I'm not being cynical here, and I understand that topics like that are pretty delicate. I personally am not gay, but again, what are they supposed to do?
@Rozie37 (15505)
• Turkmenistan
28 Jun 08
I believe that the word of God says that we are to deny ourselves daily, take up our cross and follow him. When a child is born deformed, no one says, he/she was meant to be that way so let's just leave well enough alone. No, they do everything they can to help that child live the way that they were truly meant to live. When you become a child of God, your mind and your appetite will change. You will want to do everything in your power to please God, because you love him so much.
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@Latrivia (2890)
• United States
28 Jun 08
It's a shame you can't tell the difference between the four. Two of them harm others. The other harms the spouse being cheated on. The last one is harmless. I thought anyone with at least the critical thinking skills of a 9 year old would know that. We don't accept the first three because they hurt others. Homosexuality hurts no one.
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@SheliaLee (2738)
• United States
29 Jun 08
I agree with you Rozie and I appreciate so much that you are willing to give your testimony and stand up for what you believe. I am also a Christian and I believe what the Bible says and stand on it, I don't care how many times I get blasted out here on MyLot or any other site. God tells us in His word that if we are ashamed of Him He will be ashamed of us. Sin is sin no matter how great or small, to God it is all the same. Yes, homosexuality is a choice and if you let God lead a person who thinks they are like that will not give in to the temptation. I am not flaming homosexuals either. I am just saying that the lifestyle is wrong because God says it is wrong, not because Rozie, myself or any other Christian says it is. I don't hate homoosexuals, I hate the sin. God Bless You Rozie!!!
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• United States
29 Jun 08
You bless Rozie because she's comparing homosexuality with murder? That doesn't make a lot of sense. Do you agree with the Bible on everything? What about 1 Corinthians 14:34, that states, "Let your women be silent in church," do you believe that one? Are you silent in your church? I feel sorry for people like you as you can never be truly happy with yourself because you are too busy condemning everyone else. I hope that one day you too can find happiness.
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@SheliaLee (2738)
• United States
30 Jun 08
Yes I do agree with the Bible on everything. It is God's word, God breathed. I know the scripture that you are referring to about women being silent in the church. When it comes to voting at business meetings I vote. I don't speak out in a business meeeting unless I feel it is absolutely necessary, and this has never happened. I knew someone would comment on what I said but I will never change the way I feel. I am happy with my Christianity because God saved me. I am not an unhappy person at all dear friend beccause I have Jesus as my Savior. That doesn't mean that my family and I have never had any problems, that life is a bed of roses. God didn't promise us that. He promised to give us our needs, not our wants. I'm not comparing homosexuality with murder either. I'm very proud of Rozie for taking a stand on what she believes. I'm just taking a stand on sin dear friend. I'm not upset with you in any way, you have a right to feel and believe the way you see fit. I respect your right to worship and believe as you feel. I'm not judging anyone by saying what I have said. God is the judge, not me. I am just stating what is in His word. God Bless dear friend.
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@cyntrow (8527)
• United States
30 Jun 08
Shelia, are you a born again? Just curious.
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@Debs_place (10551)
• United States
28 Jun 08
Rozie, I have a question about your statement 'I started having those feelings at the age of four years old. I have made the choice not to do that any more. ' You made a choice not to be a lesbian or have the feelings? If you are not acting on the feelings, it does not mean you are not a lesbian, it means you are controlling your feelings. If you are hungry but don't eat -- you are still hungry.
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@Debs_place (10551)
• United States
29 Jun 08
So then you are still a lesbian or bi- you are just not sexually active.
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@cyntrow (8527)
• United States
30 Jun 08
Exactly. Read her other replies. She has chosen celibacy, but she's still gay or bi. She just doesn't act upon it. That's fine. Side b Gay Christian takes this form. But she wont' even admit to being gay, yet she says that she's still tempted by women. GAY!!!!
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@cyntrow (8527)
• United States
30 Jun 08
Plunk, just wanted to let you know that I cannot PM anyone on my friends list. I'm not ignoring you message, I just cannot reply. So which is it? PM me and let me know. I'm thinking it is in this discussion.
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@TCampbell (180)
• United States
29 Jun 08
Rozie 37, it seems to me that you are a sad person. I hope you can find peace in your life and learn to accept others for what they are. After all, you would want others to accept you, right? Good luck to you in your search for happiness, I hope you find it.
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@Rozie37 (15505)
• Turkmenistan
29 Jun 08
Actually, if you knew me, you would know that I am a very happy person. Much more often than most people I know.
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• United States
29 Jun 08
It's so obvious you aren't very happy. You seem to try to get some pleasure by berating others who are different than you, lashing out and taking your frustrations out on others. That's not true happiness. But I really hope you find what you're looking for or who you're looking for, man or woman. I'll pray for you.
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@Rozie37 (15505)
• Turkmenistan
30 Jun 08
Thank you for your offer of prayer. No one on earth can get enough of those. Just remember though, if you are not a born again Christian, your prayer is an abomination.
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@barehugs (8992)
• Canada
28 Jun 08
My Dear Rozie: the only sin is one you make for yourself. God Loves Absolutely. Absolute Love demands Absolutely Nothing! Very few people can Grasp that Concept, but its true. God's love is so complete He needs Nothing else from us! The Christian Church has made God into an Ogre because it brings Money to the Church. Christianity is the Biggest Richest Business in the world. Its also the Biggest Scam, and all christians have been taken in by it. Give up on Sin, Rozie and try Love instead!
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@Ravenladyj (22992)
• United States
28 Jun 08
WOOOOOOOWWWWWW....Thats a great reply barehugs!!! and this is SO TRUE.. The Christian Church has made God into an Ogre because it brings Money to the Church. Christianity is the Biggest Richest Business in the world.
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@Rozie37 (15505)
• Turkmenistan
28 Jun 08
Sounds so sweet and poetic, but it is still wrong.
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@urbandekay (18314)
28 Jun 08
In the words of Lao Tse, "Beautiful words are not true, True words are not beautiful." Or Shakespeare, ""Fair is foul, and foul is fair" Tolkein, "I look foul and feel fair." all the best urban
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@ycanteye (769)
• United States
28 Jun 08
I read down through some of the posts, not all of them though so pardon me if I repeat something someone else already posted. I don't believe it is a choice with all homosexuals. I read that there are people born with both organs and when the parents chose to have one removed they picked the wrong gender for the baby. There is also a hormone thing involved. I have a very good friend who is lesbian, she doesn't flaunt it thats just the way she is, more male than female. She and her partner have been together for a number of years and have a monogamous relationship. Yes, maybe it is a sin in some circumstances but not all. There are some heterosexual relationships which could be classed as a sin too for that matter.
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@cyntrow (8527)
• United States
30 Jun 08
Your attractions are for women, Rozie. You are a lesbian. whether you choose celibacy or not, you are still a lesbian. Do what makes you feel right, but don't condemn others for doing likewise. That's all I ask.
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• United States
30 Jun 08
She is a child of God who is seeking God's will for her life. God does not will for anyone to live in sin, but to come to repentance and that is what Rozie is doing. Praise God!
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@cyntrow (8527)
• United States
30 Jun 08
Two people of the same gender in a committed monogamous relationship are not sinning by being in love and even expressing that love in a physical way.
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@Galena (9124)
28 Jun 08
you may personally consider homosexuality a sin, but a lot of people don't. how can you seriously consider it as bad as adultery, theft or even murder? those other three destroy the lives of other people. Homosexuality just affects those that are gay, and not non consenting adults. would you consider murder to be worse than eating a chameleon? this is also forbidden in the bible, and so must be just as bad as murder and theft and rape, right?
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@Rozie37 (15505)
• Turkmenistan
30 Jun 08
God sees all sin basically the same. He says that if you are offend in one, you are guilty of all.
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@urbandekay (18314)
30 Jun 08
Except the sin against the Holy Spirit all the best urban
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@lvaldean (1613)
• United States
29 Jun 08
There is nowhere in the Bible, not the Old or the New Testament that discusses this issue. Man, and most especially Western Man has misinterpreted the original language to align with his comfort and social structures. I would suggest that you actually study in the original languages before you spout the English language version or repeat what the ignorant tell you from the pulpit. On another note, maybe you simply agree with Hitler and think he was doing G~D's work when he attempted to exterminate Homosexuals.
@cyntrow (8527)
• United States
30 Jun 08
"On another note, maybe you simply agree with Hitler and think he was doing G~D's work when he attempted to exterminate Homosexuals." OUCH!! Excellent reply. I sent a friend request to you. I dig your intelligent and well thought out responses.
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@rajyogi7 (47)
• India
29 Jun 08
Hi, You are wrong! Your guidence to these things hurts true relationship and pure love. So dont encourage that!! Please my friend!!! thanks my lot.
@Rozie37 (15505)
• Turkmenistan
30 Jun 08
God is love, this is how he defines himself. So if he says that homosexuality is wrong, guess what???
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