Missouri Lawmaker Says Hunger Motivates Children!

@anniepa (27955)
United States
June 22, 2009 10:50pm CST
That's right, a Missouri State Representative, Cynthia Davis had this to say about her state's summer meals program for children: "Anyone under 18 can be eligible? Can’t they get a job during the summer by the time they are 16? Hunger can be a positive motivator. What is wrong with the idea of getting a job so you can get better meals? Tip: If you work for McDonald’s, they will feed you for free during your break." http://cynthiadavis.net/PDFs/cpr090604_Summer_Food_Program.htm By the way, she chairs the Special Committee on Children and Families. Any thoughts? What a loser! Let them eat McDonald's... Annie
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
23 Jun 09
What a moron. People like her just don't live in the real world. I remember trying to get a job when I was 16. Burger King and Wendy's wouldn't hire anyone under 18 and, odd as it may sound, there's a lot of competition for those McDonald's jobs from people with actual experience. I worked at Taco Bell back when I was 17. I can tell you, they don't feed their employees for free. It's 50% off. Either way, nobody wants to hire 16 year olds. They are the worst employees on the planet. The only places that do hire them do so out of desperation to save money and they pay the price in the long run. I can understand pushing adults to get jobs, but she's either forgotten, or never knew what it was like to be 16 and job hunting.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
23 Jun 09
LOL well Taskr it could be worse, she could have said that those hungry kids could how signs at the side of the road saying "will work for food"
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
23 Jun 09
Good one, Zeph - "Will work for food"...lol! When she said that about McDonald's letting them eat for free I knew she was full of it. I know a teenage girl who had worked at McDonald's for awhile a year or so ago and she got a discount, I'm not even sure if it was 50% It may vary from place to place. I'll bet this moron never had to job hunt at 16! Annie
@irisheyes (4370)
• United States
23 Jun 09
Glad to see she's a Republican. I'd be mortified if this idiot were a Democrat. Her statements remind me of all those romanticized notions of "starving artists". It's a crock but some people actually belive that starving somehow produces a higher degree of art just as some fools will believe this fools statements. Starving artists don't make good art and hungry kids are notoriously unsuccessful. Also, any kid who has to depend on a part time job at McDonald's is going to be obese as well as not well nourished. I've heard a lot of Republican objections to spending money but this is the first time I've actually heard of feeding children referred to as throwing money around. This woman needs to read up on the beatitudes...."Feed the hungry, give drink to the thirsty" etc. If she were my representative, I'd be out there campaigning for the other candidate regardless of party.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
23 Jun 09
I felt the same way when I first saw this story on the news. "Please don't let her be a Democrat", I said to myself! Usually the far right at least tries to mask their true feelings but this b1tch doesn't even care who knows she WANTS kids to be hungry...and eat at McDonald's yet! Since this story has now gotten national exposure I hope her opponent for whenever she comes up for reelection benefits by getting lots of campaign contributions! Annie
@heathcliff (1415)
• United States
23 Jun 09
Hunger CAN be a positive motivator. We could try denying Ms. Davis any food until she starts to feel a little compassion. I wonder how long it would take her to get motivated? Does McD's even give free meals any more for employees? Sounds like she's just trying to argue the age limit on the State's summer meal program should be lowered, probably to save her state a few bucks. She should remember, regardless of when a person could conceivably get a job, kids are not legally independent until 18. We are therefore talking about individuals who are at the mercy of their parent or legal guardian and not resposible for putting food on their own table: 3 or 17 makes no difference. Therefore, not only is this State Rep's humanity in question, her very understanding of law and/or logic are suspect.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
23 Jun 09
My cousin is a McDonald's manager and she told me that they get a free sandwich for a shift, it has something to do with how many hours they work. I probably have this wrong but, I think she said that if they work 4 hours or less the get a small sandwich and more than 4 they get a large sandwich.
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• United States
23 Jun 09
I read that all and I am definitely shaking my head in disbelief....first of all she is dumb in just forgetting the fact that there are a lot of families out there who are in such dire situations that no, they cannot "pull it together" like she says, when my family was homeless, my brother and I were extremely thankful for the free lunchs that we qualified for,,,,this lady has on some rose tinted glasses when it comes to the economic crisis that many families find themselves in. her statement of "This program could have an unintended consequence of diminishing parental involvement. Why have meals at home with your loved ones if you can go to the government soup kitchen and get one for free? This could have the effect of breaking apart more families" is sooooo reaching and ridiculous, this is back to the stupid belief that all families can afford to feed their children, but her claim about it cutting into family time is just plain stupid because it DOESN'T, these are meals that the kids would already be eating at school, away from the parents....so her argument makes no sense and the "hunger can be positive motivation" is so idiotic and cruel, the thought that she is saying, basically "who cares if they are hungry? they can go get a job if they want" makes me mad because kids shouldn't have to work on top of trying to do well in school...and of course she forgets to acknowledge the fact about disabled children benefiting, yes lets send the kids with CP who can barely hold a pencil to go flip burgers and the last thing I have to say is how dumb she is in assuming that all families give their children nutrious meals, I cannot count how many parents I have seen give their BABIES pepsi or other soda, I'm talking kids under 18 months...so she is wrong in her assumptions
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
23 Jun 09
It would be interesting to know what percentage of our kids actually get nutritious, healthy food most of the time. I mean, we have the people who can only afford things like hot dogs and mac and cheese, we have the families who are so busy with both parents working that they rely on fast food and processed meals and we those parents who really don't have any excuse not to but they still don't give their kids healthy meals. I believe our children are our future and we owe it to them to give them the best start possible towards growing into healthy, responsible adults. If part of what it takes to do that is for my tax dollars to go towards giving less fortunate kids a good meal or two every day that's fine with me. It's great for kids to work part time but no 16 year old should have to work to put food in their belly. Annie
• United States
23 Jun 09
Hi, Annie! Hasn't the economy troubled Missouri? Joblessness is a major problem everywhere else. Hunger in times like this can be a major motivator -- to engage in crime for survival! If that's what the Committee on Children and Families is about, we certainly don't need them!
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
23 Jun 09
What can I say? I agree with you totally! Annie
@freedomg (1684)
• United States
23 Jun 09
Are you friggin kidding me! Sounds like she was channeling Ebenezer Scrooge. My 16 year old has been looking for a summer job as have all of the other kids in the neighborhood. Guess what they are all taken by those millins of adults trying to not lose their houses. Shoot right now it's hard to find people with money enough to pay kids to cut the grass for them. People like that obviously have never had to really struggle and in my opinion should have no control over things that effect those that do struggle. There is a program here in Florida that is a day labor ran by ex homeless and the employees are people that are staying in their shelters. It is ran by peole that understand where the people they serve are coming from, this may be an example that other agencies should follow. I am not suggesting that we hire our goverment agency heads off the streets but we need to be sure they are people that understand what the people the serve are going through. Thank you for sharing this with us. Happy mylotting
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
23 Jun 09
A lot of Republicans made fun of President Obama's use of the word "empathy" regarding a Supreme Court nominee but here's an example of what happens when our officials have NO empathy. Annie
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
23 Jun 09
http://www.cliffsnotes.com/WileyCDA/CliffsReviewTopic/Hunger-Motivation.topicArticleId-25438,articleId-25356.html http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/394212/motivation/12697/Hunger http://www.mjvalve.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2&Itemid=2 http://www.braingle.com/mind/746.html http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/03/080306113754.htm http://articles.directorym.co.uk/Hunger_Motivation-a1077622.html http://allpsych.com/psychology101/motivation.html
• United States
23 Jun 09
all of those links are about "hunger motivation", so I am just wondering if you think that what this Davis woman is saying is right? That it might be a good thing to have children be hungry?
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
23 Jun 09
Cynthia Davis never once said that hungry children is a good thing. I'm surprized at Annie for how blatantly out of context she represented Davis's words. Cynthia Davis was doing a commentary on a press release about a government program to provide nutritious meals. Part of the press release covered who would be eligible for the free meals program. Davis never said that hunger was good for kids, she said that hunger can be a positive motivator for kids to get out and get jobs to help their parents put food on the table. I don't think it's the responsibility of kids to help buy food, but I would much rather see 16 through 18 year olds working to help the family than lining up for handouts. I know in my case, when I became disabled, the money my oldest son earned as a caddy often went for food or other necessities. We hated having to use his money, and there were times he resented it. However, today it is something he is proud that he was able to do. He probably wouldn't remember what he spent the money on, but when he looks back on those days, it isn't with resentment, regret or anything else negative. He has nothing but positive thoughts about the time he was needed, and was there. He's now a college graduate, married and working to support his own family. His strong sense of responsibility and family is all too uncommon in people his age. Imagine how much better our nation would be if we encouraged kids to stand up and be counted instead of acting like they are abused every time anything is expected of them?
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
23 Jun 09
Ted, I have no problem with teens getting summer and after school jobs, if they can find one these days which may be a challenge. I worked from the time I turned 16 and while I didn't have to work for food I guess when you think about it I made it a little easier for my parents to put food on the table since I used to money I earned to buy own clothes and other things and for when I wanted to do things like go to the movies or skating. Back then most high school kids had jobs and for many of us it was because we WANTED the responsibility of earning our own money. However, the idea that there shouldn't be meals in the summer for kids from lower income families because the older kids could get a job is absurd. I really don't see how I took her words out of context. I don't know what the economic conditions are in Rep. Davis's district are but it's probably fairly safe to assume there are fewer jobs available for anyone let alone high school kids and more lower income families who could really use the help in giving their children nutritious meals when school isn't in session. Sure hunger is a great motivator but I don't think we should want our kids to have that type of motivation this early in their lives if it can be prevented. Annie
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
30 Jun 09
I had to check to see what party Cynthia Davis belonged to, because I thought if Cynthia Davis was a Democrat, annipa would have said "Missouri Lawmaker encourages children to do better." But because Cynthia Davis is a Republican, anniepa writes a different title for the discussion that is insulting. Of course the premise is good, and hunger does motivate people. The trouble with it is that sometimes people take the first job and I am sure there are many waitresses or people working in the restaurant industry who regretted taking that job because they needed the money and wished they had gone on to college.
@irishidid (8687)
• United States
23 Jun 09
She doesn't look like she's missed any meals herself. I have to say I found it a bit perplexing what she meant by "It really is all about increasing government spending, which means an increase in taxes for us to buy more free lunches and breakfasts. Parents get the same food stamp allotment regardless of how many extra meals are being provided to their children over the summer. This equates to an increase in taxpayer funded food programs." Is she saying that if the kid gets free lunches the family should get less in food stamps? I don't get it.
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@jerzgirl (9234)
• United States
23 Jun 09
Truly a class act, to be sure. Hunger is a motivator, true. But, until they have jobs? She is the US equivalent of "let them eat cake."
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
23 Jun 09
I have never liked Cynthia Davis and this attitude is just one more reason not to. Sure, kids can get jobs at 16...if there are jobs to get. You can't exactly pull one out of your ear just because you want one. Maybe someone needs to inform Ms. Davis about the unemployment rate in her state because apparently she doesn't have a clue.
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@Barbietre (1438)
• United States
23 Jun 09
Reminds me of the days when Ronald Reagan declared ketchup to be considered a vegetable in the children's lunch program. Hey tomatoes are considered a fruit anyhow technically.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
23 Jun 09
LOL I can't believe that someone would suggest kids eat at McDonald's with all of the bad issues that come from eating fast food. The levels of salt, fat ect. From her comments, I don't believe that she has any business being on that committee. I would compare that to a Nazi running the Holocaust Museum.
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• India
23 Jun 09
hi annie, McDonald's......... it is the food of richest and cannot eat the poor childrens
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