Tame, timid and tardy,well now says who? Not me.

@Hatley (164654)
Garden Grove, California
February 8, 2010 5:15pm CST
rant I hate discussions that say all young p eople are adventurous and brave and ready to take risks and daring, and adventure, etc etc.And all old people are tame, timid, tardy,cautious, careful, will not take a risk and on and on and on. Mylotters do you see what I am getting at here? This is making untrue assumptions and we know that the word all should have been some. What is with people? They talk about the generation gap then turn around and make fun of elderly people making you think we are a whole different breed of human beings,probably an inferior breed according to the younger people. I think some of the blame for any generation gap goes to the people who pigenhole us as all this or that. Not as individuals who are all different.I am not tame nor timid and I am never tardy , I am always on time as I respect other people. What is your take on this kind of thinking?
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@GardenGerty (99159)
• United States
8 Feb 10
Well, they did not know me when I was young. I was very tame and timid in my younger days. It is just as I age that I am getting the guts to do what I want, and go where I want, and have some fun. I take more chances now than I ever did. I think we have had a few rants about discrimination lately, and this is just another type of discrimination that we find all too prevalent. However, there are young people who love older people, and vice versa.
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
8 Feb 10
hi gardengerty nor me either,I was timid and shy and my dad called me bashful which made me think somehowI was not as good as other kids. I know my son has never made fun of me for being elderly, but for being poor at mouse work as he calls using the computer mouse. I have a number of much younger friends here who do not seem to worry about my age at all. We just see each other as people we like to talk to.
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@1hopefulman (28331)
• Canada
9 Feb 10
I didn't read that discussion. We can say that some are this or most are this but never all are this or that. You are still a fireball and will be for a long time.
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
9 Feb 10
hi 1hopefulman I so agree we can say that some but not all, that's so patently untrue, thanks for the kind words. I am more that on paper than in person where I am a bit shy. lol. lol.
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@1hopefulman (28331)
• Canada
10 Feb 10
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Feb 10
hi 1hopefulman. well yes indeed I second that and raise it
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9 Feb 10
Hi Hatley, These young people forget that the older people were young once, they think we are stupid and don't understand,but at least we are better behaved then they are, we knkw manners and they don't, lol! hugs. Tamara
@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
9 Feb 10
hi Tamara yes if we said some of the things they have said to us, to them they would be furious but they seem to think we not only do not understand but have no feelings either, rude is still rude even it the person is young and gorgeous looking.
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
25 Mar 10
hi Alice yes indeed they will see that good manners, and patience will' really help them instead of making fun of us older people. its almost funny as if they do not think they will ever get old have wrinkles, and watch gravity pull things down on them. he he he.
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@paula27661 (15899)
• Australia
10 Feb 10
I know of plenty of older poeple who are adventurous, brave and daring! I don’t like generalisations. I am in my late forties and it is not until I catch my reflection and spot another line on my face that I have the realisation that I am indeed getting older because I act exactly the same as when I was twenty! Thankfully I have a lot more sense than I did then but my personality and sense of fun is exactly the same! My body gives away my age sometimes when I attempt to physically do what I used to do years ago! If the generalisations about older folks come from the young they are due to immaturity. Everyone should be taken for who they are and not placed in a box labelled with their age!
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
12 Feb 10
hi paula I agree I know a lot of people in their seventies and eighties who have climbed mountains,sailed a ship around the world, became doctors and nurses at an advanced age, and did so many of the same things that much younger people accomplish. Nobody should be pigeon holed into set boxes, we are all unique and so different.
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@kprofgames (3018)
• United States
9 Feb 10
My feeling on that is they can bite me - LMAO, no really. I think that 'young' people haven't experienced enough in live or outside their own surroundings to realize that people are well rounded in their lives enough to be interesting at any age. I remember when I was 15 and thought 30 was old. A lot did I have to realize after I joined the service and had a whole new out look on people and places that I had never been. The fact of the matter is I think - my own opinion because hey, I was young once too - is that they have a nieve sense that the world is an open book to them but they don't always read all the pages. After a few years of a wake up call in my corner I began to realize that anyone, regardless of age, has a lot to offer if they are willing enough to experience things. I hear ya Hatley and sorry to say I was amoung the ranks of them several years ago, but now a bit older myself and wiser. I see the light.
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
9 Feb 10
hi kprofgames yes I remember when I thought 30 was old and 40 was done for, then I grew up and hoped forty was still young and on up to sixty. I found a photo of myself and my hubby at 60 and 64 and was surprised to see how light brown my hair was and how good we looked at that age. Now my hair is blonde white, it refuses to be completely white which is so silly at 83, should be snow white. lol lol lol
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@dragon54u (31617)
• United States
8 Feb 10
Tardiness is typically reserved for the young. I can't tell you how many places I've worked where the younger people arrive late, leave early and spend their workday chatting on their cell phones. I am NOT timid! I'm getting a bit more cautious with age but that's because long years of experience have told me that I'm lucky to have gotten this far and I'd better change my daring ways! I hopped into my first mosh pit when I was 45, helped keep illegal fires going in an outdoor amphitheater as tribute to the band that was playing, figured out a usually foolproof way to get to stand right in front of the stage and got my first pair of steel toed boots when I was 48 so I could defend my position. Am I timid? The only thing that has slowed me down is my arthritis but I can still beat the snot outta any of these young whippersnappers.
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
8 Feb 10
hi dragon54u yes when I worked in the library the two younger pages always fudged on their work breaks, on their lunch break and always left work early too. when at work they cou ld never finish an assignment and left that for us older people.lol.I am not timid when someone irritates me as I have learned to talk back, and when something is amiss here I do go and make my complaint as I am now olde enough to stick up for me. My arthritis does not stop me from doing a lot of things, and I am happy which a lot of younger people seldom say.
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• Canada
8 Feb 10
I know it doesnt feel nice to be made fun of but I remember when I was a teenager and I used to make fun of old people. I know it wasnt nice, but its always been this way. Kids make fun or seniors and theres always a generation gap and Im sorry to say, I think there always will be one. As far as Im concerned, it makes life more fun in a way. My nephew is in his early 20's and he's shy, timid and afraid of many things. So it has nothing to do with age. Im no spring chicken and I can be downright silly at times. Maybe I should become more timid and afraid.......oh and Im also late at times. Not out of respect but because it takes me longer to get ready now when I go out haha!!
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
8 Feb 10
hi magicalbubble no it really is miserable to be made fun of for anyone of any age. thats my point what the hell has age got to do with ones characteristics. Some kids are time, timid and tardy and so what. Yes I suppose there will always be a generation as long as younger people perpetrate myths about how all older people do this or that. I am not really timid nor tame and I am on time as I know I take a lot of time to get going so I do allow for that.What I was trying to show is that people can be anything as it does not have much to do with age but with the individual.
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• Pamplona, Spain
9 Feb 10
Hiya Hatley, In another part of the Family I never knew about a woman of almost 92 got onto a Passenger Plane and took the first flight she had ever had in her life. She had never been anywhere before always in her Home and had not travelled either so that was the first time she had ever flown and got to go into the Pilots Cabin and chatted to the Pilot this was on British Airways. You have to realise she had never gone anywhere in her life before and it was not so long back so that was some lady great courage. Also another lady of 87 sings Zarzuela a type of Opera here in Spain and she came out on Television all over Spain singing without any Music or anything just being herself and they all stood up and applauded her it was very moving. She was not taken aback one bit when having to face a huge audience. What an audience they backed her all the way. Another one of 75 a British Woman dances Salsa with a Partner much younger than she is and he throws her around like a ragdoll she is fantastic Sandra has probably seen this one and the other too although I´m not sure.
@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
9 Feb 10
hi lovinangelsinstead21 As I was reading your response I remembered the dance time of old timers they called themselves the Eighty Sixers as some were in their eighties, and boy ' could they dance. They performed for my diabetic group that met every week. and we had people of all ages in that, but we really enjoyed them as they were as lively and as talented as people half their ages, And you could see that they were all having fun too.They line danced, they did some scottish dances, and irish jigs, even some square dancing too. the thing that amazed me is that they were so agile and so talented, and none of them were younger than 75 so it goes to show that you cannot go by age.
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• Pamplona, Spain
9 Feb 10
Hiya Hatley, That is wonderful to read people of all ages taking part in something like that really nice. Forgetting about age barriers and all that silly nonsense. Dancing Irish Jigs and Country Dancing my favourites are the Irish Jigs they are so lively. I like Salsa too but the Irish Music gets to me much deeper. I have got two left feet but who cares?
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
12 Feb 10
they were so much fun to watch and to listen to as they had a lot' of rapport, you would never think people of their ages could be so agile but they were limber and slim, not one plump person in the lot, how I envied them their slim trim bodies and that wonderful ' dancing that they did.
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@dawnald (84148)
• Shingle Springs, California
9 Feb 10
I'd tell you what I think about this, but I am just too nervous to state my opinion so publicly...
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
9 Feb 10
hi dawnald gotcha, thats okay, I am more or less ranting but' still using the all word with any group of people is so silly 'because we humans are not all alike,we are individuals, and each of us is unique too. so we should not have huge generation gaps but of course we do, not an ideal world I guess.
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@dawnald (84148)
• Shingle Springs, California
10 Feb 10
There is a teenager who volunteers at the same cat rescue group that I do, wants to be a veterinarian. She can handle everything there, including some things that I don't (ie taking blood). She doesn't particularly like other teenagers and isn't very interested in teenager things at all. Yep, we're all different.
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
12 Feb 10
yes indeed we are all unique, and different. I knew my son when he was in his teens was very different. he was careful with money, he knew what he wanted to do, and once he got a computer he was gone,he knew more about fixing computers at 14 than a lot of adults ever did and over th e years since he has really become the go to person. He seemed always older than his years.
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@jb78000 (15173)
9 Feb 10
teenagers do this, and it pretty normal as part of the teenage rebellion to form silly stereotypes about older people, however anybody over the age of 16 who does this needs a brain implant.
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
9 Feb 10
hi blue bunny oh yes you do have a point there,he he, brain implant. that reminds me of the time I had some business errands to run so came back to my town to go to work late, and I got the green light for pedestrians, and walked as quickly as i could but this young man y elled at me,old lady can't you move any faster? well I yelled back, you run a red light here buster you get a ticket as the police stations just around the corner and just barely got half way across the light still green for me, and that idiot careened around the corner past me,running part of a red light, part of a yellow light, as I got up onto the sidewalk and hurried down the street to wo rk. as i got even with the library, and was about to cross the parking lot I heard a police officer call to me. there he was and there the idiot was, he was writing him a ticket , and the cop asked me if I was the lady he had seen almost get hit by the driver he had stopped. I said, yes that was me. so the impatient young man got a nice fat ticket for nearly hitting a pedestrian and running a red light. another one who clearly needed a brain implant.
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• Pamplona, Spain
9 Feb 10
Hiya Hatley, Good for you maybe he won´t be so impatient anymore. That might have taught him a Lesson hope so. Had something similar happen to someone I know but they did not get a ticket but they are catching up here they really are catching up. Even the Pedestrians are going to get fined for crossing the Road the wrong way.
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
12 Feb 10
hi lovinangelsinstead21 just remembered tellin my hubby when he was alive that good since the car was in the garage getting repaired, he would not be able to get a traffic ticket. so he comes home looking really embarrassed, he had a ticket, for jaywalking, a ticket for jaywalking across harbor boulevard one of the main arteries in the city of Costa Mesa, I almost screamed at him, you got a ticket for jay walking? then I had to laugh, and he laughed and we both almost had hysterics,he got a driving ticket while carless, jaywalking. oh lord.
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@dorannmwin (36698)
• United States
11 Feb 10
I believe that it is very wrong to try to neatly group each generation of people into a proper type of box. I know that the things that are said about different groups of people can't easily fit everyone. My grandmother was quite the opposite of all of the stereotypes that are made about older people. She was always prompt, she was a hard worker. She was a kind person although she did have her moments of bitterness. She worked at Krogers until just ten months before she passed away and all of the customers loved her. She was a very kind, loving person and I value the fact that I was able to have a great relationship with her.
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
12 Feb 10
hi dorannmwin my dear grandpa lived with us his last years and he was beloved and was part of our family. He had worked so hard all his life and even with us he was always doing something to help out. He felt loved and he was loved. my mom was close to him and i was really close.I could go to him with any problem and he never laughed at me or made fun of me at all.
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@cynthiann (18619)
• Jamaica
11 Feb 10
I am now in my 60'sand I have never had anyne make fun of me - maybe because out here, children are still very respectful of older people. But then, I don't consider myself old. Most days I feel as if I am 27 and on a bad day 49! We do not really have much aof a generation gap out here but in the U.K. (wher I come from) it was present although I never remember anyone making fun of anyone. That is poor upbringing and poor attitudes passed on to them. It is total lack of respect. I agree with you that untrue assumptions aremade of elderly people. But it is more in the western countries than in the third world countries where the elderly are still respected. Sorry for a late response - I was not at work for two days. Blessings
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Feb 10
hi cynthiann I am in the midst of little Saigon here in Garden Grove ca. these vietnamese people do not send elderly parents to retirement homes or any other kinds of home. the elderly come to live with their children and really are treated with love and respect too. I have grown to admire so many of these people here.they are hard working,kind, and gentle people. wish we were more like that with o ut older people.
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@GreenMoo (11842)
11 Feb 10
My personal experience of older people is that they´re just as likely to be on time as younger folk, so that´s one assumption out of the window before we start! Everyone is different, regardless of their age. So generally, if someone has certain characteristics as a young person they´ll still have them as an older person. In some respects though, people will become more cautious as they age. Understandably really. An older person is more likely to be cautious of ice skating for instance than a young one, knowing that old bones take considerably longer to heal than young ones!
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Feb 10
hi greenmoo yes I think we generally keep a lot of the traits we had as young people, I was always on time and still am, also if for some reason I cannot keep an appointment I call in plenty of time to either reschedule or whatever they want me to do. sometimes my doctors office if he really wants to see me will fit me in that same day and they tell me to just come on in. I am a lot more cautious now as I had a bad fall three years ago, smashed my shoulder bones,had to have an artificial shoulder joint put in, so now I am really afraid of falling and really cautious too. I notice now the silly things that people can actually trip over and have a bad fall. so i avoid the pit falls so to speak.
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@gabs8513 (48716)
• United Kingdom
9 Feb 10
What these People forget is we have been there we have done that and if we hadn't they would not be in the world today that they are in Also they need to remember that one Day they will be old and then see how they cope Ok I am only 48 but at the end of the Day I would never criticize an elderly Person or assume anything for that Matter Even me at 49 has seen a big change a very big change from when I first started work And if I am really honest the older Generation worked harder then what the younger Generation does now, they call adventures being out on the town, getting drunk and things like that They are not adventures they are wasting Life Adventures used to be Picnics, going to Out Door Swimming Pools, and just things like that I am timid yes but I have been from a young age it has nothing to do with the Age
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
12 Feb 10
hi gabs yes they get one image from the popular misconceptions and think older people are all drooling idiots sitting in rocking chairs in a nursing home mumbling to themselves. well they are sure wrong as we are all different and a lot of us are as active as we were thirty years ago.We work harder and take less sick leave, we are on time and we do our work, while a lot of the younger ones shirk jobs, leave early and let some of the older ones take up the slack. I am shy but I have always been shy and it does not really hold me back anymore.
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@bounce58 (17526)
• Canada
9 Feb 10
Hi Hatley! When I was young-er, I used to be wild and aggressive. I also hated to be late at anything. Now that I am a bit old-er, I find myself to be a bit tame, a little bit timid. And I don't see anything wrong with being a little bit tardy once in a while. I think I've earned the right to be this way. But don't get me wrong, I can switch it 'on' anytime. So, needless to say, I'd hate to be stereotyped because I can be anything I want to be.
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
9 Feb 10
bounce58 thats just what I was getting at, why stereotype any one because as humans we are not all alike, we are unique, we are each one of us a bit different.wild generalizations just will ' not cut it. I feel I have earned the right to speak up if someone wrongs me or insults me, and I used to be a wuss as my son so cheerfully put it.
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@terri0824 (4991)
• United States
9 Feb 10
I have to agree with you. For one we get better with age, wiser too! The tardy part, I tend to think the younger generation has a problem with that. I have always been a timely person, though it would be my daughters that have prevented me from being timely. The younger generation tends not to realize what the older generation has gone through to get to where they currently are at today. If they had to go back to those days, they wouldn't be able to do it, for they only know how life is today. Enough of my ranting now!
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
9 Feb 10
hi terri0824 yes we ripen with age and gain some wisdom too.and I think most of us are the ones who are on time. My husband was the one who could never get to an appointment say at ten,he would be five minutes to thirty minutes late. me I am always a bit early and if I cannot make an appointment on time I will call the business or person I was going to meet at a certain time and tell them that I was going to be late and why.
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@mimpi1911 (25454)
• India
9 Feb 10
I think you are most contagiously tardy and empowering! It all lies within us. i have seen teenagers who are scared and timid and shy and they kinda never grew out o it! My mom is ever vivacious with her increasing enthusiasm in every thing small and big. I am bit mellow and shy and less boisterous. So that says it all....
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
9 Feb 10
hi mimpi1911 nope I am never tardy but hope to be empowering' as I think what has age to do with any thing, If we are mentally clear and strong, we can do anything that young or old can do, if we just try hard enough. I was a lot more shy when I was younger but being more or less on my own here I have had to depend on myself more although my son is not far away and is always willing to help if needed. and I have found it is freeing to know that I can do certain things for myself.
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@ewinner (86)
• India
9 Feb 10
yeah you are true it is not necessary that all young people are energetic and old ones are tame,timid it depends on their energy levels and the way each thinks if we are mentally strong we can face any kind of situation at any time or age..
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
9 Feb 10
hi ewinner yes all age groups have some people who are this and some who are that, but we cannot say all do this or that, If we are mentally strong we can indeed face any kind of a situation at any age, even if we are physically handicapped. like my physical therapist told me we can all do more than we think we can. and I found out he was so right.
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• Philippines
9 Feb 10
Their should be no comparison since older people today been young before, have done those things which most young people are capable pf doing so before though at their current stages in life. Some still have the natural inclination to do the things which they have been doing for the past years but it s highly reduce since the aging process caught them and even some think backward and not all elderly think just like you who still have an active mind and body which is good for you. Though, i never like to laugh or insult the elderly people because I know in the future i would also be like them and it feels hurt to be demoralize and being treated as an extra baggage with no uses after years of toiling this kind of treatment from the young they get after for long years they care for them. I think the younger generation should respect care and never criticize putting self in the shoes of the elderly it would be hurt hearing those words which is quite degrading and insulting should be minimize at some point but both should encourage each other to support each their predicament.
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
9 Feb 10
hi neelianoscet yes we really should find ways to bridge the so called generation gap and learn from each other and teach each other.But again all elderly are not doddering frail people, lots of us dont look as old as we are nor act like younger people think we would act. True its not kind to insult an older person nor is it kind to insult any age person.But I think we should think of young people as individuals, and older people as individuals,some are this, some are that, but not all are any thing. I hate that use of the word all.
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• Canada
9 Feb 10
There is a 35 year age gap between my husband and I, and he (older) is the more adventerous. I am not timid and shy, but I am a lot more serious, and probably act older than most people my age. LOL The two of us balance eachother out very well, and the age difference doesn't matter. I totally agree with you that the stereotypes are terrible.
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
9 Feb 10
hi danishcanadian why is it I get hungry whenever I see your user name I want to go to the bakery. he he. yes I hate sterotypes too. My husband was very extroverted and always laughing, while I was the serious shy one, not timid, but an extrovert so we too balanced each other out. I kept the books, as he kept forgetting to put down the withdrawals and that suited him fine. he was about six or s even years my senior. With real love age differences seldom really matter.
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