Is this morally right?

@ronaldinu (12445)
Malta
February 26, 2010 1:03pm CST
I have just read that a British IVF clinic is going to help women have babies at 58. I believe that not all that is possible via medical help is moral. Do you think that a 58 year old lady is capable to take care of a small child? Is a 58 year old woman who is old enough to be her baby's grandmother, has the energy to take care of her son or daughter?
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@violeta_va (4834)
• Australia
27 Feb 10
I have a family member who got pregnant at 54 didnt know she was pregnant thinking she went into menapouse she found out when she was almost 6 months. Thank god the baby is perfectly fine. My mum is 57 and is capable of looking after my kids (10 m and 6 years) why would she not be capable too look if she had one her self. As for energy I am 29 and I dont have energy somethimes. Age has nothing to do with the issues you raised. My neighbours are 59 and 36 he has more energy to take care of their 3 kids then she does the kids are 14, 6 and 4
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@nanajanet (4436)
• United States
26 Feb 10
At age 55, and taking care of my 2.5 year old granddaughter five days per week, I could not imagine wanting to go through pregnancy again. That being said, if I could not conceive naturally, I would have tried the adoption route because there are so many unwanted children out there, why not give them a home rather than fill up the planet with more people?
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• New Zealand
27 Feb 10
A Breath of fresh air, I agree with all you have said. I just find the whole old Mother thing ghastly. They are killing themselves and for what, so they can have another person to what, die of some ghastly disease.
26 Feb 10
If the ladies of this age group are paying for the IVF treatment themselves, rather than using NHS money, then I have no problem with it. The life expectancy of women has now risen dramatically, and say a woman gives birth at the age of 58, she could live on to be 88 or even older. Personally at the age of 31 I am exhausted with my two children, but if the woman feels she is healthy and capeable at the age of 58, then why not let her become a parent.Her older age doesn't mean she will be anything less than an excellent mother.
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• New Zealand
27 Feb 10
i have seen an example of a three woman that had kids what I would say was a late age, I wouldn't even visit 58 as rational. All of them lost their youth overnight, could not cope well, looked haggard, each partner cleared off, because they too were older men, and could not be bothered. So if the Mothers health fails which I believe it will, Who looks after the kid. I mean, I would be totally peeved if a 50+ woman that was related to me left me with a kid she had had too late in life. The age expectancy isn't in the picture, at 80 people are hardly youthful. Its just genetic engineering. Think at 58, when the kid is 20 shes 78 at 30 shes 88 if shes lucky.. NO WAY Its immoral.
@spalladino (17926)
• United States
26 Feb 10
The answer to your question depends on the individual woman. My grandchildren can be a handful but, if something happened to any of their parents, I would be the first to want to raise them. That being said, I would have concerns about the mothers, as well as other close family members, being around when their child reaches adulthood. Young people need a support system when they first venture out on their own and these children have a higher probability of not having that.
• United States
26 Feb 10
Well if healthy enough to do so why not really. The life expectancy is up and is in ratio to when people normally have kids and the average life expectancy of even a decade ago. Men have children at this age all of the time so what. In some ways older parents are better as they have experience are usually set in their finances and are calmer and know how to deal with stress. As for energy everyone's levels are different I know a 20 yr. old mother now who spends most of her days on the couch "sooo tired from watching the baby" (whose 5 and in school half day). While on the flip side my Aunt at 65 just took a hiking tour of the tropical rain forests and out to Machue pechu. Hey not to mention all the Grandparents who end up raising the off spring of their children who are too immature to raise them themselves, these older folks are saints and heroes but because this lady wants her own she is immoral? Really?
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@hellcowboy (7383)
• United States
28 Mar 10
I do not think it is morally wrong to help women of any age have babies whereas helping anyone kill a baby is morally wrong,and should be illegal,I think you are never too old to have a baby if you want one and feel like you can take care of one, and I think the clinic should give tests to make sure the women are mentally stable and physically able to take of a baby,and if they are,then no matter how old they are,they should be helped to have a baby,and it sounds like for some reason you are biased against older women having babies,while is that my friend?
@ronaldinu (12445)
• Malta
29 Mar 10
I respect your opiniong. However I do believe that as you grow older you have less strength to take care of your baby. I think that nature is wonderful. It is better that a woman get pregnant at 20/30 yrs age bracket than at 50 + age bracket. she would have less energy to cop with a crying baby.
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• United States
31 Mar 10
I do see your point that you lose strength as you grow older,and that older women might have less energy to deal with a crying baby,and I respect your opinion as well and I look forward to responding to more of discussions in the future.
@kun2349 (23475)
• Singapore
2 Mar 10
Why not?? Since they are able to give birth, so why deprive them the urge to do so?? BEsides it's their choice.. When underage gals are encourage to give birth to their babies, when they themselves are barely 16 old enough to take care of anybody!! So, who has got the right to comment about being morally right or wrong?? hehe
@ronaldinu (12445)
• Malta
2 Mar 10
I am against elderly women getting pregnant because at the age when their children need them most, when the children are teenagers, they 'll have elderly parents who are not able to take care of their emotional well being. I am not mentioning the financial aspect because if you do an IVF most probably you ll have enough money to spoil your child too!
@mtdewgurl74 (18121)
• United States
28 Feb 10
Serious? Wow, my mom turned 63 February 18 of this year. She adopted my little sister 8 1/2 years ago, she was 53 and I helped all that I could but yeah kids at that age tires you out fast, I think that they also don't have as much time and patience to for the child either. But love is what counts..surely...my mom adopted because it was my brothers child and his girlfriend didn't want the baby..but to actually want to have one at that age kinda scares me since wouldn't it be stressful on the persons heart and body to have a child at that age? If they did want one at that age wouldn't adoptions or have a surrogate mother atleast. My mom had alot of help the first 3 years I was there almost everyday helping most times all day..and still she says she needs breaks(but what mother doesn't need breaks?) at times cause kids can wear you down even at a young age. I am 35 and no children(problems prevent me from having one) but if I was atleast no older then 48 I would probably jump at the chance to have one if a doctor told me it was possible..
@mtdewgurl74 (18121)
• United States
28 Feb 10
Sorry I noticed i wrote 63 when she is in fact just turned 62..lol
• United States
27 Feb 10
I do agree that some women in their fifties can run circles around women in their twenties, but this woman would be fifty-nine when her baby is born. Then sixty-nine when her baby turns ten years old, and seventy-seven when they graduate from high school. I think it is great if a woman that age is still capable of conceiving and giving birth, but realistically the child will suffer for it. With that being said, I also think their are too many kids out there in need of a good home and loving parents. I respectfully do not agree with IVF in any circumstance.
@miravu (100)
• United States
27 Feb 10
I see and respect your point. There are a lot of children who do need homes. Unfortunately, unless you have experienced what it means to not be able to have children, you couldn't understand the deep feelings and situations that lead women to fertility treatments like IVF. I am not able to have children and have wrestled with this for most of my adult life. At some point, I would adopt. However, if IVF becomes an option, and I wanted to have a child, I don't see how it's morally or ethically wrong or how God or anyone else would love my child less.
@neildc (17254)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
28 Feb 10
my mom at 60 still can take care of her grandchildren, so i can say it is still possible for this 58 take care of her baby. medical help is moral as long as it is not against the law of god.
@miravu (100)
• United States
27 Feb 10
I don't think that it's my place to judge whether this is right for this woman or her family. Whether it's medically ethical or morally wrong, it's not my business to say whether this life should come into the world or not. When I see a child born into a less than perfect life to a parent who may not be able to care for him/her, I'm not thinking about how wrong the mother might have been in having the child, but more concerned with how I can help. Maybe this woman and her family is able to provide a great home, but until there's a need for help, I wouldn't inject myself into the situation. If society can dictate to this woman whether she's allowed to have a child, at what line would it stop? Whose morality would determine who should and shouldn't have a child?
@ebuscat (5949)
• Philippines
27 Feb 10
For me yes because it depends the human habit of the woman if her life would okey then why not many here in our country do that.
• India
27 Feb 10
i dont thik it as a very abnormal thing,if she lives long and fit enough sure she can have a child and take care of it.the one point you said is right in 58 she has to be a grand mother,but if she is fit and capable of making a baby and giving birth she can go for it,wish she should have no troubles in delivery and take care of that child well.
• United States
27 Feb 10
I do not believe this is right either, not for moral issues, but for medical reasons. Medically, when women have children after the age of 35, they run a high risk of having unhealthy children. I have a nephew who was born when his mother was close to her 50's, and he has peanut allergies and he has behavioral issues. Now, two of his sisters had behavior issues, but his four sisters did not have peanut allergies. Where did this come from? I wonder? The girls were born before their mother was in her forties. I wonder if she had her son in her thirties if he would have had the peanut allergies? I have heard stories like this as well from many people. I think that age certainly makes a difference when giving birth to a child, and the older a woman is, the more risk she runs of having a child born with some kind of health issues because the genes are not as strong as they were when she was younger. Although, I will say morally, it is strange to have a mother that could be old enough to be your grandmother. Most women do become grandmothers by the time they are in their 50s. It's just normal. My grandmother, my great-grandmother, and my aunt have all become grandmothers in their 50s. My mother would be a grandmother right now, but I am not ready to have children, and my brother is, sadly, passed on. Many women hit menopause by the time they are 50. It is nearly impossible for a woman to have children after menopause.
@mommyboo (13198)
• United States
27 Feb 10
Ethically I don't think it's very WISE but if I were in that position I would want to find someone to help me. HOWEVER, I would never wait THAT long before I tried to get medical intervention to help me conceive or carry a baby. I have several other issues with IVF - I think it should only help someone who cannot get pregnant or carry a pregnancy, not someone who already has like.... 6 children and wants more and that's how they've had all their kids. I also think that a woman should not be able to receive fertility help at ALL if she is on government assistance, living off parents, a minor (under 18 unless legally emancipated) etc. It should be reserved to either single independently responsible women who have not been able to get pregnant or carry to term, or married or long term committed women who are independently responsible and not able to get pregnant or carry to term. As far as the advanced age thing, I don't think a woman who has a great chance of dying from old age before the child is out of high school should have more babies...
@mandybeau (279)
• New Zealand
27 Feb 10
it is totally disgusting, they are not meant to have kids that old. I think that it is only being done to beat the odds, find the oldest one, and after observing a mother of 67 I was horrified, she looked terrible, and the kid wa a totl handful. people should have kids only when they are young, the chances of things going wrong multiplies tenfold, with every decade. I also question the mentality that would want to do this!. I understand the medical Profession, slant, its all abou money.
• India
27 Feb 10
If the lady has decided to become mother at 58 age, I think she must have thought of all the problems that she might be facing mother in future but if this gives her happiness of motherhood, good for her. Mothers are totally different from other peoples on this planet. They can visit too far for their child and take all possible care. She can take care of her son/daughter without any problem as she has the courage of being mother at this age.
• Canada
27 Feb 10
I don't see why not. I have a friend who, at around that age, adopted two babies. Their mother could not take care of them, so she adopted them. If she's capable of taking care of them, then I don't see why a woman her age could not conceive, and give birth to the baby herself.
@Hatley (164755)
• Garden Grove, California
26 Feb 10
hi ronaldinu at 58 I had a lot of energy and would have been able to handle a small child, In fact here in the US we often find grandmothers caring for their grandchildren so that the parents can work. but what worries me is that after thirty it becomes so chancy of having a normal birth, e ven at 32 I had one pregnancy that was fine, but the next I had a brain damage baby. the odds get worse as you go up the age scale and at 58 its very chancy for a normal baby. Too many birth defects happen in the 40 ties and fifty ties and it becomes wrong I think to bear a child at that age. why not adopt instead.
@dawnald (84131)
• Shingle Springs, California
26 Feb 10
Well after all grandparents take care of their grandchildren all the time...