Pointless Jobs

@GreenMoo (11834)
May 24, 2011 10:31am CST
I was waiting in the park the other day, idly people watching as I enjoy, and I spotted a couple of ladies obviously employed by the local council. One was wandering around the rose bushes removing dead petals from the flowers, and the other was picking out shoots from the trees. The lady doing the second job was putting the shoots in an ordinary sized bucket, which she filled up and had to go off and empty literally every few minutes. I really couldn't help thinking what a waste of time their jobs were. Who cares if the odd dead petal falls of a rose? And surely someone collecting garden waste could be supplied with a wheelbarrow or sack or something at least in keeping with the bulk of the waste they're collecting so that they're not spending their whole working day walking back and forth emptying a bucket. And not just a waste of time of course. Their wages were no doubt being paid from the public purse, and whilst I agree that it is important that people find work when they need it I can think of a million things in our area that need more urgent attention than the dead rose petals. Have you seen examples of really pointless jobs? How would it make you feel if you were asked to do something that achieved nothing and just wasted your time and the taxpayer's money? How would you feel if your local council was spending money you feel would be better spent elsewhere on something like this?
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@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
24 May 11
Are you sure they were definitely Council employees? They could be private contractors. Why was it obvious they were Council employees? I can guarantee their pay won't be up to much. Their bosses, however, well, that's a different story.
@GreenMoo (11834)
25 May 11
Whether they were council employees or private contractors really makes no difference. Someone still has to pay them, and in a public place that is almost certainly the taxpayer.
@GreenMoo (11834)
28 May 11
The occasion I was talking about was in our local park. These ladies work in many of the public green spaces and drive a council pick up. Why does it matter whether they were public or private employees, working in a public or private space? It wouldn't make the roles they were performing any more useful!
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
25 May 11
How do you know it was in a public place, it could be private.
@ma3121 (29)
24 May 11
well i dont think its a pointless job..may be they are so dedicated to keep their city clean and to be the good citizens..who knows? you just cant say anything by just looking at the actions..whatever we see with our eyes sometimes dosnt comes out to be true about what we are thinking..and when we knows about the whole story we say ''oh it was in this sense,i thought it something else''....i guess they are the real citizens who finds their happiness in keeping their city clean..
@GreenMoo (11834)
25 May 11
They aren't volunteers, I know that as I live here and know them. I am not criticising the individuals who were performing these jobs, I'm sure they were doing them to the best of their ability and taking pride in them. Their job is to take care of our environment, which really is a worthwhile role as it improves the quality of life for everyone. However, do you really think that taking rose petals off bushes (they hadn't even fallen on the ground) is more worthwhile than the million other things that the local council could be doing to improve the lives of it's citizens? The fault, in my opinion, is with the department who chose to utilise their working hours in such a way.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
24 May 11
I agree and it doesn't really matter whether they are Council employees or not. Our budget for such work has been slashed and the city looks worse as a result. These jobs may be a waste of time to some but to others it means they are taking pride in their surroundings and feeding their kids. Could even be volunteers for all we know. After all, that's what Cameron wants us all to do..work for nothing.
@katsmeow1213 (28717)
• United States
26 May 11
I'd be frustrated if I were a tax payer in your area. Actually in my own town the tax payers are extremely frustrated. Not because people are being appointed to pointless jobs.. but because there are too many people appointed and unecessary. It all started a few years back when the Elementary School principal needed to be relieved of her position. Rumor has it she stopped a child from running in the hallway with a pair of scissors by grabbing the child's arm. Most parents would not see that as being a bad thing.. I'd rather someone grab my child's arm than allow them to be harmed by the scissors. Anyway, I guess the parents of this child raised a fuss and the principal had to be let go, but the school board decided they would not fire her. For awhile she was just suspended with pay.. then they found her a position in the district office. She's continuing to make principal salary.. but they basically invented a position for her.. so she's not really needed but she's being paid. Then last year (or was it earlier this school year? I can't remember) they decided to fire the high school principal out of the blue. I still don't really know why, but I believe it had something to do with politics and not his actual performance as a principal. Needless to say he's suing the school board.. and now they're spending money on lawyers, blah blah. Then the school board decided to let go of the superintendent.. but she wasn't fired and didn't resign.. she took an early retirement a few months before her term was to end.. or something like that. She's still being paid. So they got a new superintendent. I guess there was a clause in his contract where a particular employee was to earn $300,000 a year or he would not accept the superintendent position, and as it turns out he's romantically linked to this other person. So they suspended both of them... with pay. Now they're looking for yet a new superintendent. Yes, a lot of drama in our school district, but most of it is political stuff and they're basically paying a whole bunch of people who are doing nothing for the school district. Now mind you, while all this is going on, my kid's school bus has to travel all over the fricken town going from one side of it to another because there isn't enough in the budget to hire more drivers and run more busses. My preschooler has an hour long bus ride to come home because the bus drops off the morning kids while picking up the afternoon kids because there's not enough in the budget to run more busses during this time. Good teachers are being laid off. They may not have any sports next year. Coaches for certain sports already know they won't have a job next year, making a bunch of kids not want to participate if there are sports because their favorite coach is gone. Fourth and Fifth graders are now considered "Middle Schoolers" and will have to ride the bus with high school kids.. because there isn't enough in the budget to run the 4 schools we used to have (it used to be K-2 in one school, 3-5 in another.. then middle and high school.. now we have K-3, middle, and high school). And the entire district unanimously declined the proposed budget.. wonder why? Our money isn't going where we'd like it to. They're spending it on paying for people with no jobs or pointless jobs instead of spending it on our kids!
@GreenMoo (11834)
28 May 11
Government departments all over seem to be notorious for having skewed priorities. I'm happy that the ladies I saw had work, but finding them something to do which would have made more of an impact would have been childsplay.
@NoWayRo (1061)
• Romania
24 May 11
Most public servants and half of bank employees have pointless jobs, if you ask me One of the things that stunned me a few weeks ago: I went to file in a tax report. There is an application where you can do that, but it's not online, you have to download and install it on your computer, fill in the data, export it to a file, and take the file on a stick or CD to the tax authorities. Needless to say, I was already furious and waiting to pick a fight when I got there. And there were two ladies: one was in charge of giving you a piece of paper to prove that you brought in the report, and the other one took the CD and checked if your report had any technical errors (not errors in how you filled in the data, just if it's compatible with the application). So, there's process that took me half a day and employed four people (because the two ladies worked in shifts) and which could be done in 60 seconds with a online application. And guess what? The tax authorities that throw away the money in this manner did not find enough funds to set up an information booth and to pay a person to stay there, so you can ask for directions when you get in their building.
@GreenMoo (11834)
25 May 11
Isn't it reassuring to know that the tax you eventually get billed is going to such a good cause?
@NoWayRo (1061)
• Romania
25 May 11
Exactly. Made me sleep so much better. After two hours of kick boxing at the gym, to vent out the frustration and anger.
25 May 11
It sounds as if a Time and Motion expert would be pulling their hair out watching these ladies! In these straightened times, I too can think of other ways to spend our money! What does it matter if nature goes a bit wild for a few years while we sort out our economic blackhole. People are far more important than things so money should be spent on us!
• Philippines
25 May 11
Only a person who is not happy anymore with his job can call his job pointless. Other people may not undertand why a person would choose a simple job, but who cares, as long as you are happy and feel significant about your job, no matter how simple it may seem for others, just do it. So it doesnt matter if your earning big or not from a job, if youre not happy with a job then its pointless... Now there is an issue here about spending taxpayer's money on what should be a volunteer-type of job...well governments, especially the most corrupt ones, have a lot of problem with setting their priorities straight which leads to poor governance and suffering of their people. i guess all government are corrupt, corruption is such an intrinsic part of a government system, some governments are just really really good at keeping their anomalies hidden from the public's eye.
@GreenMoo (11834)
28 May 11
I've never intended to criticise the ladies performing the jobs. For all I know they could be loving it, or feeling as I do! My criticism is with a department who feels that this is an appropriate use of public money, when these ladies could have been doing something which would have had more of an impact.
@jillhill (37354)
• United States
24 May 11
Yesterday I got an email with a bunch of different programs our governmnet supports but they want to eliminate....as far as I am concerned they could all go....and the people who are running the agencies that are sucking the life out of our tax money! I also feel like much of it could be better spent....like more on educating people on how to go to work instead of the court house for handouts!
@GreenMoo (11834)
25 May 11
I guess we could all spend our country's better than our elected officials do :-) But I completely agree with you that so many priorities seem to be wrong.
@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
24 May 11
I think those jobs you described come under the category of making things "beautiful" by stripping away their natural aspects. What a shame! Yes, here in the U.S. we have useless jobs. We have sidewalks and bridges the go nowhere, wheelchair ramps where there aren't even sidewalks and other construction projects that aren't needed. They are part of the "stimulus" of 2008 and have done little to get the economy going, just wasting our tax money. It really angers me and we can't seem to get anyone in that has any common sense!
@GreenMoo (11834)
25 May 11
It just seems to pointless when there are so many things that need just a little manpower or investment to really make a difference to people's lives, yet taxpayer's money just gets frittered away. My personal pet hate is cycle lanes which just end when they get to a difficult junction, just where they are needed the most.
@msmamaof3 (244)
• United States
24 May 11
Perhaps they were just volunteers doing it just to be good citizens?
@GreenMoo (11834)
25 May 11
Nah, I recognised the two ladies. But even volunteers should surely do activities that are worthwhile.
@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
24 May 11
You should see big corporations, and see the high level managers with the high falutin titles! You go about what they do each day, and realize that their jobs are pointless. Even when they say they do management tasks, you then see that they have people that does everything they say do. Unless of course you wouldn't call 'taking credit for jobs' as pointless.
@GreenMoo (11834)
25 May 11
I used to have a so called management job in a small business where the owner also worked on site. Everything I did she double checked twice over as she was incapable of stepping back. My job was entirely pointless as there was absolutely no need for me to be there. Some people might have enjoyed a job where they really didn't need to do anything, but it drove me nuts and I moved onto somewhere where my days work actually meant something.
@petersum (4522)
• United States
24 May 11
Could be convicts serving their "community service" requirements. Sounds like that kind of "manufactured" job. Don't quite see where the take is - there has to be corruption involved somewhere!
@GreenMoo (11834)
25 May 11
They're definitely council employees as I see them out and about doing similarly pointless jobs in the area pretty regularly. My guess is that the department has been allotted a certain budget, and if they don't spend it all they'll find it hard to justify for next year.
@inertia4 (27961)
• United States
25 May 11
Well I can tell you from experience that cities and states do not seem to waste their money. I used to work for the city here in NY and believe me, it was wasted money. I used to want to keep busy during the day so I decided to start moving things around with the forklift. The other city workers were yelling at me saying, the city is not going anywhere, slow down, take it easy, relax. I was amazed. So, when it comes to city and state jobs, they do waste plenty of money.
@GreenMoo (11834)
28 May 11
I think there are budgets to be kept to, but also spent. If a state department does not use it's whole budget then it has difficulty justifying it for the next financial year. So there's a lot of temptation to just spend it.
• China
25 May 11
Over here,what you said is referred to as"the common rice pot",which is often used figuratively to refer to a kind of absolute equalitarianism in which everybody gets the usual pay irrespectively to his or her performance.If not,they got the job since someone had pulled the wires.
@GreenMoo (11834)
28 May 11
A good term. Thanks for sharing it.
• Indonesia
25 May 11
When I was in university i was choosen by ny teacher and my local goverment to make interview with local enterpreneur. I must observe all of them about their problem. And always tells that goverment will be help them. but actually it is non cent. Because the budget for the enterprenour was dissappear with the staff of goverment. they also make reason for the adsministration. I think it is a wastefull time dan make a big lie for them.Iam so dissapointed now.
@GreenMoo (11834)
28 May 11
Making work for themselves then? A sad waste of money within the government sector, i think.