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myLot reputation of 39/100. kdmlrys (257)   ranked 1,116 out of 9,718 in religion9 months ago

I notice that some atheists (like Richard Dawkins, Michael Shermer, Christopher Hitchens, etc. - most of them are evolutionists) fondly use this concept of The Flying Spaghetti Monster in order to present to the public that the belief in God is just a fallacy.

Although I respect their "trip", I still don't get it!
If they believe in Evolution, I think they should or somehow consider the possibility of the existence of the flying spaghetti monster.

Why?
Because if the transition between dinosaurs and birds really did occurred (basing on the theory), then the possibility of jellyfishes, octopuses, or perhaps crabs, evolving to the form of the flying spaghetti monster may occur as well.

I mean, who knows!?!
No one can control the process of natural selection right!?!

Do you think this intriguing possibility got some potential?


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1. myLot reputation of 93/100. JABeau59 (221)   ranked 1,548 out of 9,718 in religion   9 months ago

Why not. I always wondered why the monkeys at the zoo were still there. Why didn't they evolve and escape?


myLot reputation of 39/100. kdmlrys (257)   ranked 1,116 out of 9,718 in religion  9 months ago

Due to this thing called natural selection. That's what scientists think.


myLot reputation of 50/100. i_somera (101)   ranked 6,323 out of 9,718 in religion  7 months ago

Yeah! I evolved and escaped from the zoo LOL. Good day


myLot reputation of 93/100. JABeau59 (221)   ranked 1,548 out of 9,718 in religion  7 months ago

That is great! I am so happy for you. I am afraid you will now have to get a job because there are no feeders to come by with your food out here in the real world. But enjoy your new upright walking stature. happy


myLot reputation of 46/100. liviurus (102)  6 months ago

me still cheetah!


NefariousFox (79)   ranked 907 out of 9,718 in religion  6 months ago

Mr. Beau. Evolution does not assert that Chimpanzees evolved into humans. In fact, scientists who understand evolution will tell you that this assertion would be ridiculous. Instead, evolution asserts that Chimpanzees didn't even exist when humans began to divert on their evolutionary path from the rest of the early primates.

At some point in history, nature made it necessary for some apes to become smarter, walk upright, and have less hair (which made humans), and for some other apes to become smaller (chimps) or be able to climb better (spider monkeys).

Humans did not evolve from chimps, or spider monkeys, or gorillas. All three animals evolved due to natural selection from the same common ancestor.

Man, again, could not have evolved from monkeys as they exist today, because when the evolutionary path first forked, neither humans nor monkeys existed as they do today. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND TO PROPERLY DISCUSS EVOLUTION.

Hope that helps.


myLot reputation of 94/100. devideddi (438)   ranked 776 out of 9,718 in religion  5 months ago

How does or did nature make it necessary for apes to become smarter? And if that's the case, did nature also make their brains comply? And walk upright, what did nature do to cause that? I mean, I believe its necessary for me to wear a coat in the winter but that does not make it a fact that I always have a coat on in the winter.
And so now, nature decided that enough of the apes evolved for now? where, what was the stopping point?
Just trying to understand the theory.

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2. myLot reputation of 96/100. gitfiddleplayer (5340)   ranked 1,496 out of 9,718 in religion   9 months ago

I think its facinating that they would use creatures that we have only a vapor of to prove their point, much like their belief that God does not exist because we can't see him. We are all evolving, so are they, they are getting older (but not wiser) as well. They want to target kids with their brand of atheism, children are taught this stuff, why not make something up they can believe in over God.


myLot reputation of 39/100. kdmlrys (257)   ranked 1,116 out of 9,718 in religion  9 months ago

I'm sorry but I don't really understand what you're saying here. Pls. enlighten your point.

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3. myLot reputation of 98/100. savypat (7795)   ranked 811 out of 9,718 in religion   9 months ago

I really don't see why one belief should exclude the other. What is more of a miracle
than evolution? And why not a God who is all? I really don't see a problem here at all. Spaghetti Monster or not.


redmike (69)  7 months ago

woah... you know what guys, topics related in religion is really long discussion. But i have one thing to share about your comment savypat. Not all believers excluding other beliefs. we dont know their agenda until we figured out what really is his/her point. Maybe he/she's trying to explain something that God is bla bla bla bla something like that. and then later on you'll notice that he/she's true.

For me, on my own view, spaghetti monster really exists on the mind of an atheist. But not that visually specific. They only show what's their point. They dont force us to believe on them. No, not at all. Im not an atheist talking here but i know them. they respect others- especially religion. they respect God of gods. only thing they dont accept is there's one mighty spirit who never sleeps, never dies, can do anything etc etc. Not all atheist think the same way.

Robert langdon, star in the movie the vinci code and angels and demons - that fascinates us, is considered an atheist. He believes on theory - man's work. That evolution takes place before him and the rest of us - and the rest of the universe. My friend's girlfriend too can be considered as atheist. but she believes on might being who is responsible for everything that is happening around us but not believing on He did the universe. Like Langdon, university thought them (I might say brain washed them - but Im not that bad as you think) to believe on the power of science, theories, some laws that basically provide information about what we live in right now. Or from history that they can illustrate the past and relate to today's world. and some of them dont believe on the Bible.

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4. myLot reputation of 93/100. TLChimes (1654)   ranked 4 out of 9,718 in religion   9 months ago

Now this was a cool post. I can't wait to read what others say.

I say why not.... big lizard folks learning to fly and are now sweet little singers in the morning sun.... squiggly gooey jelly fish (ick) turning into a flying spaghetti like monster.. why not?

Not sure I'd cover it is sauce and enjoy but hey.... that's just me.


myLot reputation of 39/100. kdmlrys (257)   ranked 1,116 out of 9,718 in religion  9 months ago

In addition to that, the talking snake in the Garden of Eden can also be possible. I mean, if we, humans, evolved from an ape, and now that we are talking, what more can be the possibility of a snake, speaking any kind of language.

I personally think this isn't a crazy idea. I believe it's a valid scientific viewpoint.


myLot reputation of 98/100. cyrus123 (1762)   ranked 3,191 out of 9,718 in religion  9 months ago

Actually, it was the devil who appeared to Eve in the form of a serpeant. Kathy.

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5. myLot reputation of 79/100. mathss1 (777)   ranked 22 out of 9,718 in religion   9 months ago

http://www.youtube.com/wa... an atheist and believe in the spaghetti monster


myLot reputation of 39/100. kdmlrys (257)   ranked 1,116 out of 9,718 in religion  9 months ago

HAHA Yummy Peanut Butter!


myLot reputation of 79/100. mathss1 (777)   ranked 22 out of 9,718 in religion  9 months ago

happy


myLot reputation of 93/100. TLChimes (1654)   ranked 4 out of 9,718 in religion  9 months ago

thumbup2 points for the early mornng grin.


myLot reputation of 79/100. mathss1 (777)   ranked 22 out of 9,718 in religion  9 months ago

w00t
Thanks
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6. myLot reputation of 98/100. cyrus123 (1762)   ranked 3,191 out of 9,718 in religion   9 months ago

I believe in God, myself. Belief in God is not a fallacy. The Flying Spaghetti Monster sounds kind of crazy to me. I don't respect their trip at all. It sounds more like a cartoon to me.

I have been told that dinosaurs once eixted, though. Kathy.


myLot reputation of 39/100. kdmlrys (257)   ranked 1,116 out of 9,718 in religion  9 months ago

I don't consider the concept of The Flying Spaghetti Monster as something crazy. Like I said, it's a possibility!


myLot reputation of 98/100. cyrus123 (1762)   ranked 3,191 out of 9,718 in religion  9 months ago

I hope didn't hurt your feelings by saying this. If I did, I'm sorry. I'm not really famliar with the flying spaghetti monster. I am a christian, though, and i don't believe in evolution. Kathy.

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7. myLot reputation of 45/100. keithmharris2005 (144)   ranked 2,796 out of 9,718 in religion   9 months ago

That is new to me. The flying spaghetti monster. HMM.

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8. myLot reputation of 97/100. GardenGerty (20370)   ranked 133 out of 9,718 in religion   9 months ago

I am not familiar with the concept of the flying spaghetti monster, but my husband will attest that the creeping crawling live spaghetti monster exists. As a young child he got up for a drink of water in the night. Someone had spilled some spaghetti pasta in the sink and to his eyes it writhed and crawled. To this day he does not eat pasta. I just had to throw that in to your discussion.


myLot reputation of 39/100. kdmlrys (257)   ranked 1,116 out of 9,718 in religion  9 months ago

Probably caused by the sucking effect of the mini tornado that we typically see on most sinks.


myLot reputation of 94/100. mariposaman (2506)   ranked 1,371 out of 9,718 in religion  7 months ago

Probably an hallucination caused by ingesting too much sugar and watching too much TV.

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9. myLot reputation of 83/100. albert2412 (1432)   ranked 5,079 out of 9,718 in religion   9 months ago

If someone were to really investigate gow a cell works and what is really involved in cellular reproduction then I do not see how anyone could even thikn of themselves as an athiest. The cellular chemistry and mechanics of the cell is much too complicated to have occured naturally. (Remember, there had to be the first cell!)


myLot reputation of 39/100. kdmlrys (257)   ranked 1,116 out of 9,718 in religion  9 months ago

Yeah, I was enlightened by the "Intelligent Design" documentary of Ben Stein about the complexity of cell. Even Richard Dawkins thought that the possibility of a designer may be portrayed through the cell. But of course, he never said that the designer was God. I think he said something like a civilization evolved somewhere in the universe that may have designed our way of life.

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10. myLot reputation of 90/100. scififan43 (892)   ranked 2,660 out of 9,718 in religion   9 months ago



I am not sure aobut this, I have never heard their auguments before. I think it could be a possibilty that it could be true. I have no problem with the theory of evloution. However a belif in the God is simply a matter of fath and not science. Scince should be seprated from religion becase they are two seprate fields of study with there own pricapals.


myLot reputation of 39/100. kdmlrys (257)   ranked 1,116 out of 9,718 in religion  9 months ago

I agree, but of course, people should not treat them as enemies.


myLot reputation of 90/100. scififan43 (892)   ranked 2,660 out of 9,718 in religion  9 months ago

yes that is true. they should not be treated as enemys.

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