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myLot reputation of 59/100. gewcew23 (4073)   ranked 575 out of 6,359 in politics6 months ago

I actually like calling this government campaign the wear your seat belt or else. Many state including mine have or are trying to pass new legislation that the police can pull you over for not wearing your seat belt. During this multi-million dollar ad campaign a picture that government once again knows what is best for you, and if that means punishing you, well that is what we will do. Seat belts are a responsible thing to do, but really is that governments roll to make you more responsible? The pro-new law crowd love to speak about saving lives, and true it probably will, but other things that are legal can kill you. Do we want government to make tobacco illegal? What about jumping out of a perfectly good plane hoping that your parachute will deploy before you make a crash landing to earth, should that be made a crime? Sure not wearing a seat belt might be moronic but there are a lot of thing that are moronic yet are personal decision.

Let us just face it my decision to or not to wear a seat belt does not affect you in any way, so let me make that choice. How about being Pro-choice on whether to wear a seat belt or not. It is my body!

 
 
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1. myLot reputation of 47/100. sndcain36 (2660)   ranked 603 out of 6,359 in politics   6 months ago

If they really want to get people to wear their seatbelts, just make it so insurance companies don't have to cover you if you are in an accident while not wearing one.

This is another example of how liberal brains work; it's your body, your choice when it comes to abortion, but somehow that freedom doesn't apply to wearing a seatbelt.


myLot reputation of 95/100. dreamr802 (755)   ranked 2,010 out of 6,359 in politics  6 months ago

I completely agree with you. If you aren't wearing your seatbelt during an accident then you shouldn't be covered. I know up in CT where I'm from, my aunt got pulled over for not wearing her seatbelt and she is so mad because it's her body. She doesn't want to wear a seatbelt it is up to her. Sometimes when I'm in the back seat I will put my seatbelt on but have the part that goes across my upper body behind me and just have the lap part on to be more comfortable. I wonder if I would get a ticket for that?


myLot reputation of 70/100. jonakyl (337)   ranked 161 out of 6,359 in politics  6 months ago

I believe it's that way if you are in the military, you'll have to pay for any medical care you get if you aren't wearing a seat belt. At least my father told me that growing up, so I always wore my seat belt, and do to this day.

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2. myLot reputation of 87/100. lologirl2021 (1633)   ranked 1,932 out of 6,359 in politics   6 months ago

I think that tobacco will never be illegal as other things are as you have stated. I think it will never be passed even though i am not a smoker and hate it very much i think such a thing will never be passed and i don't have my reasons at all, but i guess its just a thought for now then.

The click it or ticket is effective were i live and if a cop suspects you of not wearing your seat belt now you can get pulled over for not wearing it and get a ticket as a law was passed for that.

I see you are all about the goverment and if i sky diver jumps from a plane with out his parachute opening up i think that should not be a crime at all as it really isn't all his fault at all, or just the way the parachute was packed and probably not packed correctly in his bag, so that when he pulled his string to open up his parachute it didnt open up at all and i would imagine this to be a very scary thing.

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3. myLot reputation of 77/100. xfahctor (5296)   ranked 68 out of 6,359 in politics   6 months ago

I live in the last state in the union with no seat belt law for those over 18. Our legislature tried again this year to get one implimented, but it died an agonizing death and is now sitting in legistation pergitory. In fact, a similar law cannot be brought up for another 2 years. I was appaled at all the out of state and national groups that were interfering in this, nothing burns my arse more than a bucnh of flat landers comming in to my state trying to tell us how to run my state. If you don't like our laws or lack there of....than stay the hell out of my state. If you want to live in a nanny state, than pass all the laws you want...IN YOUR OWN STATE.

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myLot reputation of 59/100. gewcew23 (4073)   ranked 575 out of 6,359 in politics  6 months ago

Flatlanders, them dang flatlanders. Oh wait I guess I am a flat lander.


myLot reputation of 79/100. spalladino (9002)   ranked 176 out of 6,359 in politics  6 months ago

The closest thing we have to hills down here in Florida are ant hills so I guess I'm a flat lander, too...but I don't think anyone from here was up there messing in your state's business. Do you realize how far away you are?? shocked


myLot reputation of 77/100. xfahctor (5296)   ranked 68 out of 6,359 in politics  5 months ago

gewcew23,
ROFL!, remember, flat lander is more than just a location, it is a state of mind, and you don't seem to have the flat lander mentality. So, you should move up here and become a voter, help us preserve this state's unique libertarian aproach to life and government...PLEASE we need all we can get.

Spalli,
You would be amazed at how far and wide the interfernce here ran. All sorts of national advocay groups were in on it, lobbying our legislators, massive emailings and pamphlets to our citizens, writing editorials in our papers. Not just organizations, but regular people from other states, particularly those in the surrounding states like Mass, Maine, Vermont and such.

then there was the federal government attmpting to bribe our legislators with "extra" high way funding that would be made availabe to our state if we passed a seat belt law.....HOW FRIKKIN DISGUSTING CAN YOU GET....they were trying to bribe/blackmail us... with our own freakin money....That's OUR OWN MONEY!

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4. myLot reputation of 60/100. bailey2009 (155)   ranked 280 out of 6,359 in politics   6 months ago

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5. myLot reputation of 97/100. coffeebreak (4840)   ranked 305 out of 6,359 in politics   6 months ago

In a way I agree with you. Your body, your choice. I myself, am responsible and intelligent enough to wear my seat belt for my own safety and those in my car will wear theirs for their safety. Although I do understand the part about why do we need the government telling us what is best for us...in this case I am glad they are doing this... not because I need it, but because there are so many people out there in on-coming traffic that need it. I have seen kids crawling the back seats out of seat belts and they would get killed if an accident happened... just cause their parents were not responsible enough to make sure they were safe. I am glad they did the car seat law too - someone needs to protect the kids if the parents don't care enough to do so.

If a person that is licensed to drive... thereby assumingly intelligent enough to do it responsibly, chooses not to wear a seat belt.. yes, that is their choice, but the problem comes when they have an accident and get hurt and try to take it out on the other driver... the law suits pile up and there are so many loop holes in the legal system that a driver that did hit the person without the seat belt could be liable for all injuries to the other person...which could have been avoided if that other person had worn their seat belt.

I really don't see the big issue of wearing them anyway. Not like they are uncomfortable or restraining or "in the way". THey make them with all kinds of comfort features. Bottom line.. do you want to be safe or have things your way? If everyone was wearing them all this time.. there wouldn't be a law now to wear them.

(and I use the word "you", as an adjective pronoun... not directing it to "you" as the author of this post!)

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myLot reputation of 93/100. krayzietam (695)   ranked 5,625 out of 6,359 in politics  6 months ago

I really like your response and I agree. I was going to write one on my own but I figured since you did such a good job summarizing, then I would just comment happy. I think that the seat belt law is good as well (even though I do think you do have a right to govern your own body and to make your own choices). I just think the law will be effective because it reduces the amount of fatal crashes out there. I guess I am just biased because I lost a good friend in a car accident a few months ago and it all could have been prevented if she had worn a seat belt. The impact killed her. This other girl flew out the windshield from the back seat (and she is still living). It just hurts to know that one simple measure can save your life and so many people don't do it. Unless you want to die, what is a good reason to not wear your seat belt besides it is your body and you can do what you want with it? Like I said, I guess I am biased because I experienced this first hand. I do not wish it on anyone. sad


myLot reputation of 97/100. coffeebreak (4840)   ranked 305 out of 6,359 in politics  6 months ago

You have my sympathies. That is horrible to loose someone like that.

Bottom line... even if it is a law... if the person still chooses to not buckle up...what good did the law do? I even think alot of times... people will buckle just to save getting a ticket...not that it might save their life some day

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6. myLot reputation of 79/100. spalladino (9002)   ranked 176 out of 6,359 in politics   6 months ago

Not wearing a seat belt became a primary offense in Florida recently meaning that we can be pulled over for that alone. Oddly enough, Florida has no helmet law so motorcyclists are free to risk serious head injuries while I'm belted inside of my vehicle. No, I don't believe it's the government's job to become society's babysitter.

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7. myLot reputation of 72/100. irishidid (3047)   ranked 1,311 out of 6,359 in politics   6 months ago

We've had the seat belt law for a number of years. I believe there's also child restraint laws of how big a kid has to be before they can go without a car seat. We don't have a helmet law though because of some bad wording in the law or something like that.

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8. myLot reputation of 79/100. Rollo1 (1599)   ranked 89 out of 6,359 in politics   6 months ago

They already do this in my state. Originally, they couldn't stop you for it, but could ticket you for it if they stopped you for something else. It's just another way for the state to make money on tickets.

Pro-seatbelt-law people will tell you that injuries from auto accidents will push up the cost of health care, etc. Strangely, these are also the same people who want you to pay for everyone's health care through a universal healthcare plan.

In no-fault states you would probably be covered no matter what, since most will cover the driver even if they contribute to their injuries as long as they weren't eluding the police, committing a felony or high on drugs or alcohol. But if your accident was the other guy's fault, you can bet that any settlement with his insurance company will be reduced by your contributory negligence in not wearing your seat belt. That's your choice and the consequences are yours, too.

I think everyone should wear a seat belt, because it's the smart thing to do. But government shouldn't be regulating it for adults. Sure, protect children but let the adults be stupid if they want to be. Seat belt laws seem innocuous, but it's just another example of the erosion of personal liberty and responsibility.

I hadn't thought about sky diving deaths. It's an area where the government let's you be foolish without regulation. Of course they will tell you more people die in car accidents, but that's really just because more people drive than jump out of airplanes. More people drive than fly in airplanes, so airplane deaths are lower than highway deaths. Of course, in a car accident you are at least already on the ground and can get out of the car if it's about to explode. I think that makes most people feel safer than having an explosion at 20,000 feet.

In the long run, we are heading towards a total nanny state.

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9. myLot reputation of 73/100. bdugas (2449)   ranked 1,356 out of 6,359 in politics   6 months ago

Well I have 2 brothers and both have been in wrecks. One was told the seat belt saved his life, the other was told he would of died if he had, had his seat belt on. I know in most cased it probably will save your life, but I think it is a choice that you should make not the government. I have a pickup truck, I have to sit so close to the steering wheel that when I put the seat belt on, it literly cuts into my neck, I spend my whole driving time pulling and trying to get it out of my face. Seems to me that I am spending more time messing with the seat belt than paying attention to the road. Not all people are perfect fit for using the seat belt.
As for cigarettes, another thing that the government wants to stick their nose into. Whether I smoke or not should be up to me. They complain about the cost to insurance for people who smoke, damn I sure haven't killed any one smoking my cigarette like the ones do that are drunk on the road. But I don't see them making booze illegal. Government has too many other things like N Korea, Iran, etc to worry about and need to leave our lives alone. We each do things that are good and bad for us, I do agree that they should raise the cigarette laws to 21, anything that would keep the younger crowd from smoking,but if government spent more time governing and not as much time sticking their nose into our lives maybe they could get something done.

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10. myLot reputation of 60/100. ParaTed2k (4586)   ranked 403 out of 6,359 in politics   6 months ago

Our slimy legislature and Governor knew they couldn't pass such a draconian bill on its own, so they illegally added it to the last "budget" bill.

Piss on the tyrants!

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