Can you just throw anything together out of anything in the kitchen?
By katerina
@thea09 (18305)
Greece
October 9, 2009 9:27am CST
The avatar here gave me a huge amount of pomegranates the other day, straight from the trees. They aren't as juicy as in previous years so juicing them isn't really an option. My son eats them as they are and I also put the seeds into cooked rice for him. There's still a lot of fruit though so I've just improvised totally and have two pomegranate cakes in the oven as I type. I'm sure they'll turn out fine but it will be a first.
Presuming you have the basics around will you just improvise with anything in the kitchen without referring to a recipe? Do you have extras of something you need to use up so try something completely different?
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@sunny68 (1327)
• India
9 Oct 09
so you are having a nice time with pomegranates!! yes extra of anything makes you use it more in your cooking especially if it is perishable. i once had excessive bananas. however i ended up gifting it to friends and relatives. you can also dry pomegranates and powder it. then just sprinkle it onto any dish....gives a distinct flavor.
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
9 Oct 09
Hi sunny, how are you today? You've lost me on the last one, I wouldn't have a clue how to go about drying a pomegrante. Maybe you can fill me in if it's not a huge amount of work. I do find them a bit boring to deal with getting all the seeds out, but it needs to be done early in case there are ants inside.
Excess bananas make excellent banana bread but for some reason it always appears purple when it's baked. We have no excess of those though as I only buy what I know we'll eat as they are very expensive here.

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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
10 Oct 09
But if I managed to dry it out then how would I go about turning it into powder? And what sort of thing do you sprinkle it on. It is worth considering as pomegranates are actually declared now the healthiest fruit in the world but are of course only seasonal. They are also expensive here in the shops as priced by the kilo and those bags I brought home certainly weighed a lot.
So you've tried with banana trees there. Apparently they don't do too well here as its too near the sea. A friend of mine who lives a couple of kilometres higher than me did have a little success with a banana tree and gave me some miniature bananas she'd successfully grown. I must ask her how they fared recently. 

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@sunny68 (1327)
• India
9 Oct 09
i am fine...thanks!!...i am not sure about how to dry pomegranate seeds. here it is available in the market. you may try drying it in sun (spread on newspaper). try with a small quantity at first just to check it out. bananas are very common here. i too have planted banana tree and in the case i mentioned one fell under its own weight. its opposite here...pomegranates are very expensive...
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@bettydeng5 (1822)
• China
9 Oct 09
Wow, you can improvise with anything in the kitchen, but I can't. I nearly make the dishes as per the referring to a recipe. Because I worry that I will put wrong component to mix, so I always don't improvise something.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
9 Oct 09
Hi bettydeng, improvising will probably come after more years in the kitchen. When I used recipes a lot I used to write in the side of the book what to change next time as we all like things done to our individual taste, or maybe not like something that's meant to go in and substitute it. I still like to look at cookbooks but never follow a recipe exactly.

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@GardenGerty (169449)
• United States
10 Oct 09
I do try to improise and use what I have. Hubby does too, but what is bad is to decide we have to have one more thing so we can make this or that, and then it just gets out of hand.
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
9 Oct 09
hi thea pomegranites oh they should be coming in the stores
here soon. Pomegranite cakes that should be good I would '
think. I have read you can eat the seeds,but as I have
diverticulitis which means little pouches along the
intestines, my doctor told me I must not eat anything with
seeds, or nuts, or corn, and the one time I disobeyed that
ended me up in the hospital with bleeding diverticulitis
so cannot have even pomgranite seeds. well anyway I seldom'
used recipes in making most dishes as I had to use what
I had most of the time so I did a lot of experimenting and
some of my experiments were really good; sometimes I
invented a new recipe to use up some produce someone had
'given me like the ton of zucchini that some one insisted'
I take. so zucchini went into just about everything. he he he





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@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
9 Oct 09
Good morning, Hatley....I am just adding a voice of sympathy here, as I too was diagnosed with "diverticulitis" two years ago! It's a drat, isn't it...as some of my favourite things have seeds, nuts...all the goodies we are not supposed to ingest, and I was severely cautioned about eating them, and am soooo sorry about the pain (as it is overwhelming) that you must have felt! Take care & Cheers!
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
10 Oct 09
Hi Hatley, and Shirley of course. I knew about your seed problem Hatley from the Dr on oprah discussion. I'd never heard of it before and now theirs two of you here with it. Would it be rude to ask if it is something which strikes after a certain age? or is it wise to be cautious in advance?
Zucchini is American for courgettes I think. I wouldn't be able to come up with much imagaination there, just efried, roasted with other veg, and I did see a recipe for courgette cake which I can't quite see because of the water content.
Wish you still had the chance to cook HAtley.

@Humbug25 (12540)
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10 Oct 09
Hi ya thea09
I can honestly say that I am a useless cook and can't throw anything together, I so wish I could. My kids are fussy eaters to a degree and one especially doesn't like change. If every I say use peas in a pie instead of brocolli he refuses to eat it. Sometimes it is nice to have a change of things as it gets boring eating the same thing but he makes it so difficult for me to do that. Most of the time I just tell him that if he doesn't eat it then he will go hungry and have no dessert. I refuse to cook somthing else for him!

@Humbug25 (12540)
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10 Oct 09
My son is 6 and I kinda hoped he would get better once he started school and had dinners there. He is better than he used to be but I still have problems getting to eat everything. Somtimes he will take one look at a meal I have prepared and he will simply say 'ugh I'm not eating that I don't like that' and that would be at spaghetti bolognaise!! I find it hard to get any of kids to eat meat too!!
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
11 Oct 09
If it's winter and I do something like a beef casserole mine won't eat it as is. I have to spoon out the dry meat for him, potatoes, carrots and not put any of the sauce on his plate. With something like roast chicken he'll devour it all but eats things in order first, all the sprouts first eg, as his favourites, then the roast potatoes, then the chicken. It can take ages.
But new things are looked on with suspicion. Somedays he comes home with a full luch box which infuriates me but he'll eat if he's hungry I've found. Also mine gets through lots of little snacks like green pepper, a hunk of cheese, fruit, cucumber.
@nijolechu (1842)
• Canada
10 Oct 09
I try to improvise a dish out of a different array of foods. But I am not that good at it. I admire people that can make something good with a bunch of different food ingredients. My food is just edible and not that tasty. lol.
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
10 Oct 09
Hi nijolechu, oh dear that sounds rather bad having to eat barely ediblle and tasteless food, I certainly hope that someone else does the cooking around your place for you.Maybe you should just find one basic dish that is tasty and then add to it in lots of different ways for variety.
@zed_k4 (17589)
• Singapore
10 Oct 09
I can. There was this one time when my mom was away for the day, and I came back so hungry. Was too lazy to buy food outside and I did not want to order takeouts, so I decided to whip up my own butter fried rice. Just basically added everything up, some salt, some pepper, some scrambled eggs and there it was; my dinner, LOL...
Sounds like cakes are good options; sounds delicious enough for me. Yum2x..
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@zed_k4 (17589)
• Singapore
13 Oct 09

I can blush! Actually, I can throw anything and cook, but L-A-Z-Y is the word, LOL. I do admit that my do spoil me rotten, but that is because I still live with my parents. I am not trying to break free, but I do know at some point that I have to be independent as in not staying with them. Right now they still need me so I'm still living with them. My mom is getting old with age and so does my dad. If I could buy an apartment just above them, that would be great! LOL..anyway, back to your fried rice story, I can cook that alright. But would be lovely to have someone cook for me all.the.time. Oh! There I go, my lazy syndrome has started back...
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
10 Oct 09
Wow Zed, I am totally bowled over by your one time cooking attempt
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Egg fried rice is as easy as anything and absolutely anything can be thrown in.
Now tell, is this your one and only attempt in the kitchen? You sound like a Greek man used to mama spoiling him rotten, some are even known to still cut up their grown up sons food for them. True. A Greek man is generally helpless without eithe a Mama or a wife, which is so many still live at home with their 80 year old mamas.
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Egg fried rice is as easy as anything and absolutely anything can be thrown in.
Now tell, is this your one and only attempt in the kitchen? You sound like a Greek man used to mama spoiling him rotten, some are even known to still cut up their grown up sons food for them. True. A Greek man is generally helpless without eithe a Mama or a wife, which is so many still live at home with their 80 year old mamas.
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
13 Oct 09
There's no reason you can't go Greek a bit and stay on with your parents, though I must admit that most seem to have moved out by about the time they are 40.
I'm teaching my son to cook but he's not up to rustling up a meal for me yet unless I follow him round the kitchen with a wet cloth wiping up all the mishaps. He's a whizz at making my Greek coffees though and even taught himself and insists that I go about it all wrong.
Last time I drove over the mountains to my mans place he turned out an excellent meal butI wasn't too happy at his sons comments that I ought to be the one doing it
I'm teaching my son to cook but he's not up to rustling up a meal for me yet unless I follow him round the kitchen with a wet cloth wiping up all the mishaps. He's a whizz at making my Greek coffees though and even taught himself and insists that I go about it all wrong.
Last time I drove over the mountains to my mans place he turned out an excellent meal butI wasn't too happy at his sons comments that I ought to be the one doing it
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@tdemex (3540)
• United States
9 Oct 09
When I shop I plan out my left overs! So when I cook something up I'll all ready have a plan for the leftovers! I'm pretty good at coming up with something that's laying around or as you said if a friend brings me something that I don't have plans for! I normally don't need a recipe but baking times sometimes throw me off!
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
9 Oct 09
Hi td, I just ate a piece straight from the hot oven and if I say so myself it was rather good, just a little lemon peel, almond oil and pomegrantes.
I see we are alike with our planning out of leftovers, I can make a chicken do for 2 of us for 3 nights without it getting boring, and still make a big pan of soup out of the carcass afterwards. I take it you're the cook in the house, having trolled your cooking discussions.

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@suzzy3 (8341)
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9 Oct 09
I tend to do that make anything out of what I have got in the kitchen cupboards and freezer if you can make a sponge cake you can use any fruit or jam coconut ect ,or pastry fat and flour make a pie with meat or eggs and bacon ham.eep the basics in your cupboard and use your imagination.My son said once that was lovely cake mum can you make it again and I forgot what I put in it,so the next batch of thrown together tasted completely different.Great fun.

@suzzy3 (8341)
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10 Oct 09
I must get in the habit of cooking extra and freeze some for another day.I feel real pity for those among us who never got the chance to learn to cook.I had my mother and a really good cookery teacher for four years when I was young.It is a real handicap if you cannot cook.x
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
13 Oct 09
I think I mainly picked it up on a needs must basis with the view that anyone can follow a recipe, unless its for pastry. I still get new tips though whenever Gordon Ramsay does anything, who was to know I'd been cooking scrambled eggs the wrong way for a couple of decades.
It must have been nice for you to pick it up from people in the know.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
10 Oct 09
Hi suzzy, totally agree with you there, as long as the staple cake ingredients are there along with the onions and spices anything can be made out of anything. I don't take stuff out of the freezer to add though, I deliberately overcook and freeze for when I fancy a day with no cooking. I'm planning more pomegrante cakes for the freezer as they were declared delicous, but he's also clamouring for orange cakes too, but I'm conveniently out of eggs till later.

@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
10 Oct 09
Hi dlr, the cakes turned out well thanks, my son needs lots of supplies to have as snacks during the school day and I'd rather he had the home made version so I know what goes into them. Pomeranates have now been granted status as the healthiest fruit in the world but I've been disappointed by the lack of juice inside this year.
Your method of just putting things together can turn up good new combinations.
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@jellymonty (2352)
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10 Oct 09
I'm no good in the kitchen to be honest so I would probably panic if I just had basics! I always panic when it comes to the kitchen because half the time I never know what I'm doing
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@jellymonty (2352)
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10 Oct 09
LOL true but I have to learn how to cook now as going out for dinner is getting extremely expensive...
Besides my grandma once told me the way to a man's heart is through his stomach so I figure if I can cook I can have an updated resume when it comes to men
Besides my grandma once told me the way to a man's heart is through his stomach so I figure if I can cook I can have an updated resume when it comes to men
@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
9 Oct 09

Yes, absolutely! In my efforts to cut expenses, I try to see to it that nothing goes to waste. Over-ripe fruit makes wonderful muffins or breads. And any kind of veggie at all can go into a pasta or rice casserole, or into an omelet.
I hope your cakes turn out really well :)
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
10 Oct 09
Hi Karen, you won't mind me asking for a once and only clarificaton here, is a muffin the same thing as a bun? I bake tons of buns as easy to pack in for school but I'm sure they are the same as muffins in America, though possible smaller. We used to call flat rounds of bread rolls muffins and I loved them but nsever see them anymore, delicious toasted. But it's always made me wonder. You definitely wouldn't eat a hot toasted buttered muffin though in the way I describe, unless you have two kinds of muffins. I do the same with overripe fruit too.
I've only just started baking again now schools back and it's cooled down enough to allow so I missed out on trying fig bread as the season was too short. A tip I have is when I buy the veggies like leeks and spring onions, I cut off all the long bits straight away to make a green soup so they are still really fresh when they hit the pan.
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
13 Oct 09
Kindly attach a picture of a short barn silo Karen
How can there be so many language difficulties over food. What you describe as a cinnamon roll sounds suspiciously like a Danish pastry, which we don't get in Greec anyway, our biscuits are indeed your cookies and I think your biscuits are those grit things which I am determined one day to try. Someone once described them to me as tasting like wet cement so I've no idea why anyone eats them. But it's very odd to hear about Americans eating biscuits with gravy, in England biscuits go with a nice cup of tea
How can there be so many language difficulties over food. What you describe as a cinnamon roll sounds suspiciously like a Danish pastry, which we don't get in Greec anyway, our biscuits are indeed your cookies and I think your biscuits are those grit things which I am determined one day to try. Someone once described them to me as tasting like wet cement so I've no idea why anyone eats them. But it's very odd to hear about Americans eating biscuits with gravy, in England biscuits go with a nice cup of tea
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
11 Oct 09
Hm, a good question. Are your "rolls" baked in cupcake papers or a cupcake pan? Do they come out looking a bit like a short barn silo? If so, yes, those are what we call muffins.
And if I'm not mistaken, your biscuits are what we call cookies. I'm not sure what you call our biscuits! LOL Our rolls are varying sizes and sweetness...some plain like bread, others rolled like a spiral with cinnamon and sugary fillings or icing on top or filled with fruit jams, etc.
Viva la difference! It's all good eating, yes?
@veronizm (907)
• Philippines
9 Oct 09
Hi thea! I guess I can say yes to that :) But not with cakes coz we don't have an oven :D I've tried baking before but that was only during our cooking class in high school :) But when it comes to viands, yes, as long as I have the basics around I can pretty much cook anything delicious enough. I've tried that several times when I get tired of cooking the same kind of meal for weeks. I pretty much just mix the ingredients and make sure that they complement, that's the most important thing I guess. I love experimenting with cooking and I also don't really follow the recipe, usually, I like making my own, LOL :D
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
10 Oct 09
Hi veronizm, that must be strange not having an oven, mine is in permanent use in the winter playing home to huge pans of slow cooked casseroles. Mind you i'm derpived of anything grilled at home as that is completely useless, and its inside the oven.
Good for you experimenting so much whilst very young, usually its the ones with years of kitchen grind behind them that tend to be adventerous in the kitchen but what are recipes anyway but someone else being inventive before us.

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@EnglishTeaDuck (862)
• United States
9 Oct 09
Yes, I suppose I am pretty good at using what I have in the kitchen. Ia m the sort of cook that doesn't follow a recipe anyway so I can throw things together.
I am finding I have to do this at the moment as I am unemployed and we have to make everything stretch as far as possible so I am really trying to use up what we have in the cupboard before buying a load of other stuff.
Hope the cakes turn out good!
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
10 Oct 09
Hi English, thank you the cakes had the inevitable seal of approval by the cake eater of the house but he did say that the seeds themselves were rather hot but good which means maybe one of these days I can slip a curry in front of him (he's only 10 and still shys away from HOT). In the interests of this discussion I tried a slice myself and it was most enjoyable.
I certainly know what you mean by making things stretch but the ability to throw things together without the aid of a recipe works well in this situation. This week I discovered a lovely meal can be made by sauteeing cauliflower in crushed juniper berries and mustard seeds.
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@cloudwatcher (6861)
• Australia
10 Oct 09
I have never (to my knowledge) eaten a pomegranate, though I do have a dim recollection of them growing in our backyard in England. I remember eating the blackcurrants and gooseberries, but I can't remember pomegranates.
So please, could I have a taste of your cake, when cooked? I know it will be a good one.
I haven't used recipes for many years. When I bought an electric slow cooker, I thought I'd better buy a recipe book so I knew what I was doing with it. I did read a few recipes, but it has never been used as such and never opened since.
I must confess I do a few strange things with my cooking. If I have fruit which is over-ripe I fry it with the steak, which my family finds unusual, but they enjoy it.
When cooking most things, I just open the cupboard and the fridge and throw in anything that looks feasible. I don't care about what goes with what: it all mixes well. I don't think I cook anything the same way twice.
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@cloudwatcher (6861)
• Australia
23 Nov 09
Your chocolate instead of cinnamon reminds me of a friend. We buy jars of minced ginger made by Continental and as you know, we add some to our coffee. My friend grabbed some minced ginger from the shelf while shopping and made us a cuppa when we returned to the office. I'm thankful another friend tasted first and said it tasted funny - then I caught the smell. He had grabbed a jar of Continental garlic by mistake! The jars look exactly the same, but they certainly didn't taste the same. (I can't stand the smell of garlic. I guess Greeks use a lot of it)
Thanks for the best response!
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
10 Oct 09
Hi Cloudwatcher, I'd be pretty amazed if you actually had a pomegranate tree in an English gardnen, I thought they were hot weather fruits. The cake was very good so will be done again and a piece is on its way to you, but with the speed of Greek post expect a piece of mould to arrive.
I see you're another one without the recipe book but you must be really good if you never do anything the same way twice. There are certain things I wouldn't deviate from once I've got them exactly as I like them, but I won't be going with the chocolate powder in the mousakkas cheese sauce again instead of the cinnamon. Luckily I noticed it before it went on top. If I discover something by accident as well it will appear again too. Don't think I'd be tempted by fruit with steak though, but its such a rarity to actually get any here I would have to stick with mushrooms not fruit.


@ShepherdSpy (8544)
• Omagh, Northern Ireland
10 Oct 09
I can start with one or 2 ingredients and an idea of where to start,whether it be a soup or a main course,and make it up as I go along..the process works for Me! 

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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
10 Oct 09
Good for you shepherdspy, I totally applaud a man in the kitchen which is a rarity indeed in these parts believe me. Here men do the fire only when it oomes to cooking and don't approve that I'm teaching my son to cook as that is for women. Considering the high number of single men in our village of a certain age, it explains the high numbers who are reliant on eating out at the taveran every night of the week, as they are totally clueless in the kitchen leaving eithet the taverna or mama as the only option.
I have one of the only ones who knows what a kitchen is and is happy enough to turn out a good meal and no one would dare call him unmanly for doing so as he's bigger than the lot of them.

@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
10 Oct 09
Hi jillhill, good to hear another kitchen experimenter here, sorry to hear it sometimes ends up in the garbage. I had one of those with leftover chicken cooked up with rice, garlic, onions and cream. I massively oversalted to the poiit of inedibility, and only after it was in the bin did I read a tip on here about popping it all back into the pan with a potato to absorb all the excess salt. Usually I always taste as I go to avoid disasters.

@malpoa (1213)
• India
11 Oct 09
Pomegranate cake, that sounds interesting thea. I havent heard about that flavoured cake. how was it to taste? You make a cheese/mayo dip and throw in some pomegranates. It looks good and definitely tastes good.
I love experimenting though many times the outcome is disastrous. hi hi, but I never back off hi hi. I never stick to a recipe as I wont be satisfied unless I add something of my own hi hi. It so happens that when you add something not mentioned, the taste improves and definitely tase diffrnet from the stereotyped one. I recently added pasta seasoning to sweet corn egg soup and it tasted good.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
11 Oct 09
Hi Malpoa, I rather thought you would experiment as you already try out foreighn recipes. Of course you can be well prepared in advance if you do make a complete disaster, simply serve it up to your father and brother in law and get your husband to take you out for a peaceful dinner.
The cake was delicious, I make things like that mainly for my son but I do like to try something new when it's still hot from the oven. Anyway he did ask me to make more.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
12 Oct 09
I agree that it is a messy pain to do. I now quarter them and then break the quarters backwards to open up more segments and stick my ungloved fingers in.
If I was just to eat one as you do I would have it and eat the seeds with a small fork as I did when I was a child. These days I just stick with the juice if they are juicy enough but deseed them for my son.
@malpoa (1213)
• India
12 Oct 09
My father in law is a sober person, he never complains about food and isnt fussy. He compliments when food is good and no bad comments when it isnt!!! hihi bro refuses to eat when it isnt good. I am still to reach that stage where I can make alterations and make the disastrous thing edible hi hi. Hubby is game for all.
I eat pomegranates just like that, not even juice it. But taking it out is something I hate to do, all my undernails gets stained...How do you do it? Wearing gloves?

@wlee9696 (595)
• United States
9 Oct 09
Hello thea what an interesting question. Yes I often just make up recipes as I go along based on what is in the cupboard that day. Keeps things from getting too dull. You can also stumble onto some new family favorites - and some not so favorite. So what did you do with the rest of the pomegranates. I might would try a jelly or jam?
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
10 Oct 09
Hello wlee and welcome to Greek Life Style where this is loosely sat because of the local pomegranates. I hope that the avatar pleases you, he is also loosely based as a somewhat new 'relative' in loose Greek terms, but objects to being displayed in this way as presumes women will be rushing to Greece to marry him. Most excellent free supplier of many fruits, fish and lobsters though.
Do you find that when you just make up a recipe that you afterwards write it down for future reference if it was a resounding hit. I should start doing that as sometimes can't remember what I did when I fancy repeating it. When the recipes were used more often I used to scrawl in the books to remember improvements for the next time. As to the rest of the pomegantes I'm sure they'll just be eaten or added to savoury things for my sons school luch box, but I'm hoping the next batch will be juicy enough to juice.
Do you find that when you just make up a recipe that you afterwards write it down for future reference if it was a resounding hit. I should start doing that as sometimes can't remember what I did when I fancy repeating it. When the recipes were used more often I used to scrawl in the books to remember improvements for the next time. As to the rest of the pomegantes I'm sure they'll just be eaten or added to savoury things for my sons school luch box, but I'm hoping the next batch will be juicy enough to juice.


















