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myLot reputation of 98/100. jennybianca (7229)   ranked 3 out of 5,019 in family 3 years ago

Step Mother??
This is or was, a big issue for me. Until recently, I was a non-resident step mother for nearly 7 years. Non -resident means that my step children have primary care with their biological Mother.

There is plenty of statistical evidence in Australia, that second marriages end more frequently than first marriages. Now I know why, it's because of step children.
It just doesnt work. The step mother has a terrible time, being compared to their real Mother,being used for cooking, driving around, running after them. Then their Father favours them by spending better quality time with them, than with his wife (me).
They get away with blue murder. They tell lies to the Police, their biological Mother and the Family Court(and their Father.

Now there is growing evidence that non-resident Step Mothers are the most discriminated people in our society. They have no rights at all. None in the Family Court, none in their step childrens school,and have no real say in their upbringing. But we are expected to wash their clothes, pick them up, buy them presents, etc.

No wonder 2nd marriages are a disaster and soul destroying, if there are young step children involved.

What is your opinion?

PS. My first husband died, who was the Fsther of my beautiful daughter, so please dont go down that path.

 

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tags:  step children, 2nd marriages, co parenting, love, marriage
 
1. myLot reputation of 99/100. GardenGerty (35316)   ranked 623 out of 5,019 in family   3 years ago

Being a second parent is really a challenge. Co parenting with your sister or brother for one reason or another, is also a challenge. I agree, these pseudo parents are disenfranchised. They also have the wicked step parent image to live with, and live down. It does not help second marriages succeed.


myLot reputation of 98/100. jennybianca (7229)   ranked 3 out of 5,019 in family  3 years ago

A Professor in Western Australia has been in touch with me for her research on on-resident step mothers. When I read one of her papers, I was in tears, as it described my expreience exactly.
My then husband refused to read much of it.

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2. myLot reputation of 84/100. cerebellum (2862)   ranked 947 out of 5,019 in family   3 years ago

I don't have any children step or otherwise. I can imagine how hard it would be to be a step-mother. I lived with a guy once that got his kids every other weekend and it was hell when they were here. Your right the father feels guilty and wants to show the kids he loves them and they can take advantage of the situation. It would probably be harder if the kids were with you all the time. I don't think step-parents have many rights in the US either. I would think no matter how good your marriage is kids would put a strain on it. The only thing the step-parent can do is prey that they grow up quick.


myLot reputation of 98/100. jennybianca (7229)   ranked 3 out of 5,019 in family  3 years ago

Well, you weould have been a step mother too, when you were living with this guy. So you obviously have an idea where Im coming from.


myLot reputation of 84/100. cerebellum (2862)   ranked 947 out of 5,019 in family  3 years ago

Yeah I guess in a way I was a stepmother. I don't like kids much and I didn't really like his. I hated the weekends they stayed with us but of course I didn't let him know that.

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3. myLot reputation of 95/100. Hatley (48745)   ranked 324 out of 5,019 in family   3 years ago

hi jennybianca yes I can see where you are coming from but cannot help much as I am a senior citizen who was married to one man all her life much to the amazement of everyone I talk to, and have never been divorced etx. But I can understand how it would be and the media does not make it any easier with all the stuff About mean and wicked stepmothers, kids can pick up on all that stuff too.My opinion is that second husbands and step kids should treat their step mothers with respect and kindness not with meanness and bad manners. hope this helps.


myLot reputation of 98/100. jennybianca (7229)   ranked 3 out of 5,019 in family  3 years ago

Congratulatioons on beinmg married to the one man all your life. It must be wonderful to know that your love can continue for ever.
Sadly, that didnt happen with my husband and me, as much as I loved him.

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4. myLot reputation of 94/100. stephcjh (27638)   ranked 633 out of 5,019 in family   3 years ago

I have a daughter of my own also and my husband also has three children of his own too. His children never did give me a chance or accept me and they have now cut all ties with their father, my husband, also. My daughter loves my husband like a real father though.


myLot reputation of 98/100. jennybianca (7229)   ranked 3 out of 5,019 in family  3 years ago

Right, well you were in the same situation as me. My step children didnt give me a chance either, although their father would blame their mother for that.
My daughter(whose real fgather died) loved my husband like a real father, until the domestic violence started. Its sad as we would have loved him all his life, if it werent for his children.

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5. myLot reputation of 96/100. CatsandDogs (6424)   ranked 33 out of 5,019 in family   3 years ago

It CAN work IF both sides work together. I've seen it done so I do know it can work. I dated a guy who was divorced and he had two kids. He didn't get to see his kids very often until I made a point that his sons are more than welcome to come and visit us for we lived together. That's what started the weekly weekend visits which were right nice because we had a lot of fun together. I told my boyfriend that as far as his kids are concerned, they come first because they are his kids. They came before I did and they didn't ask to be brought into this world and to be thrusted into a broken home so they come first as far as what I want and what they want as long as it's his decision to make the right choice because it really depends on the situation such as, say if I were sick and the boys wanted to go fishing, well that's where I come first because I'm sick and in need of him however, if his boys and I were both sick and we all need to see a doctor, they come first because kids can't take themselves. Now when it comes to a vindictive ex, you have to be the bigger one and not cause a conflict even if she tries to get under your skin. Let the spouse or boyfriend handle it. If he doesn't then you know who's side he's on and that's when it's time to move on. It is hard but yes, it can be done if one is strong enough to bear with it and do the right thing no matter what it is. Just in case you don't know, he died when our house caught fire in 1990 so it's why we're not together today. But I do have a wonderful wonderful husband now so I'm happy.


myLot reputation of 98/100. jennybianca (7229)   ranked 3 out of 5,019 in family  3 years ago

I have known of some situations where it does work with step children. I think it depends on, 1: the situation with the ex; 2: the age of the step children when you get them; 3: the amount of contact you have with them (35% in our case) and 4, how the father (my ex husband) handles them.
Unfortunately I had all those things against me right from the start.
In my opinion, the marriage comes first, not kids, as any counsellor will tell people that. A stable marriage means it is more likely one will have success with the children.
Then, in my case,. you have the added factor of domestic violence.
Im terribly sorry your boyfriend so tragically in a fire.
My first husband died of a brain tumour.

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6. myLot reputation of 97/100. sid556 (18623)   ranked 626 out of 5,019 in family   3 years ago

I agree...it is a thankless job and very difficult...maybe impossible. I was in that spot years ago and would never go back to it.

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7. myLot reputation of 93/100. Sandra1952 (3179)   3 years ago

Hello, Jenny. I've had the reverse role, where my kids stayed with their father and had it indoctrinated that my second husband was lower down the pond life scale than Herod, Hitler or the worst serial killers. My eldest son was working away from home when we split, so he missed all the stuff about Tony breaking up a happy marriage, etc., and was the only one of my 3 who accepted the change straight away. The truth was, of course, nothing like that. It takes two to make or break a marriage, and it's very rarely that one person is solely responsible. Tony's kids were older, but they had their own children, so there was a bit of a war going on about who was the best parent/grandparent, who was to blame for the break up, who was the most important, and all the rest of the crap.

I was cast in the role of wicked stepmother/ grandmother, until my second husband's daughter broke up with her husband and received the same treatment from his children. Then I morphed from wicked stepmother and marriage wrecker (which I wasn't) to misunderstood, loveable human being (which I hope I was). I could have made mileage out of it and got very bitter and twisted, but I decided to just embrace the change and get on with it. Now, 15 years down the line, everyone gets on really well together. I think they all came to realise in the long run that their parents/grandparents were much happier now than they had been for years, and that anyone who made their loved ones so happy couldn't be all bad.


myLot reputation of 98/100. jennybianca (7229)   ranked 3 out of 5,019 in family  3 years ago

Gee, this was complicated to follow. We had the stuff aboyt granparents too, who was the best, who gave the most money to my step kids, etc. Sadly, my ex hubbys Mother was very poor, so was unable to give her grandkids only very small presents. That was fine by me, but step kids came here & raved on about how their other grandmother gave them lots of money & presents. Then, there were my parents, who treated my 2 step kids as their own grandchildren. They are very disappointed in the whole situation.
Glad yours worked out well in the other. Mine is one of the stats that didnt work.

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8. myLot reputation of 84/100. sparkofinsanity (3868)   ranked 57 out of 5,019 in family   3 years ago

When my hubs and I met my stepson was living with his mom. He didn't move in with us until my hubs and I moved in together. So I've seen both sides of the resident non-resident issue as a step parent. While we lived apart, the son was a horror to be honest. He resented my presence in his father's life because that took away from the time his father used to spend with him. And the mother egged him on in his attitude towards me. When we moved in together though my hubs was smart enough to agree to present a united front to the boys (my sons were living with us at that time too), and the stepson soon learned that he couldn't manipulate his father or me to serve his own ends. This also frustrated the mother who would call me up and tell me terrible lies about my husband and the way he treated his kids when they all lived together. If I ran into her in the grocery store she used to shriek and run for the parking lot, convinced I was going to beat her up! lol All in her head of course as I'd never given her a reason to think so. But it was part of her psychosis that being an abuser herself, so was everyone else.
I agree with you that step children can and do cause marriages to fail. My own son's illness (cancer) was nearly the death of my current marriage when he came home to me while he got treatment. The hubs just couldn't understand my total devotion to him. But luckily we got through it and have come out the other side of adapting to our marriage and various children and are stronger and better for it. I wish wholeheartedly that this had been true for you too Jenny. What a terrible time of year to have such a thing happen to you. Do email me if you want to talk, vent, scream, yell, cry or whatever you need. I'm a good listener and would understand completely where you are coming from. I'll pm you with my email addy........


myLot reputation of 98/100. jennybianca (7229)   ranked 3 out of 5,019 in family  3 years ago

My stepsons bio mother was like that too. Once, in the car park of her kids school, she grabbed a document out of my hand & wouldnt return it. A scuffle developed. She started screaming. She was quite psycho. Ex hubby and I are sure there is something wrong with her, but unless she admits it and gets help, she will never get treatment. In any case, my step children developed her personality & there was just nothing I could do about it. I dont doubt that I didnt act in the best way possible, but I was unable to cope with my husbands "preference" for them.
It was like, he didnt let mne move on from the bad things they did.
Then the DV started. Anyway, thats why we separated.

Thanks very much for your email address. I will reply, but probably tomorrow, as it is night here & I have things to do.
You are very supportive.
PS. I presumed your son recovered from cancer. My first husband, my daughters father, died from cancer.


myLot reputation of 84/100. sparkofinsanity (3868)   ranked 57 out of 5,019 in family  3 years ago

My hubs was like that............not letting anyone move on really when his son messed up. But I'm stubborn Irish and wouldn't put up with it, so eventually it came down to 'them or me'. But our situation was different in that we were older and our kids were older and we knew it was only a matter of time before it was just he and I at home and the boys would be grown and moved out. Becoming a stepmom of teenagers is a horror show to be sure, but the light at the end of the tunnel is a lot closer than if they are only nine and under.............
As for my addy, don't feel pressured to use it just because I gave it go you Jenny. But do feel free to contact me anytime.........Hugs.


myLot reputation of 98/100. jennybianca (7229)   ranked 3 out of 5,019 in family  3 years ago

Im a 1/4 or 1/8 Irish, and I have that stubborn streak too.


myLot reputation of 84/100. sparkofinsanity (3868)   ranked 57 out of 5,019 in family  3 years ago

Comes in handy when we're up against life doesn't it? LOL My mother used to despair of my stubborness, but frankly I wouldn't be alive today without it....


myLot reputation of 98/100. jennybianca (7229)   ranked 3 out of 5,019 in family  3 years ago

My ex hubby detested my stubborn Irish streak, probably because it meant he had less control over me.
I went to Ireland many years ago. I just loved it especially all the greenery.


myLot reputation of 84/100. sparkofinsanity (3868)   ranked 57 out of 5,019 in family  3 years ago

My hubs hated mine for the same reason. So I made him a deal. He stopped being so damned Scottish with his money and I'd stop being so damned Irish with my stubborness. We now live in blissful harmoney when I'm not being stubborn and he's not being cheap! LOL

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9. myLot reputation of 95/100. musicman6 (2070)   3 years ago

Believe me , I know how you feel, I went through the same thing, I raised two stepchildren, and it was like running the 'guantlet' if you are familiar with that event!
It's true, second marriages are super hard to make it through, and I can see where many marriages can fail because of the stresses of stepchildren!
But I was lucky, because at the end of my marriage I had two wonderful stepchildren, that i love very much, and they have a lot of respect for me, and love me just like they do their real Dad ! But I did raise them from the time they were 2 and 4 yrs old. And we are not even from the same race!
My marriage ended, but it had nothing to do with the stepchildren, there were other issues that had a helping hand!
I guess all you can say is , what happens , happens, and you just have to make the best of it!



ps- jennybianca, thank you for the best response you gave me on that other post !


myLot reputation of 98/100. jennybianca (7229)   ranked 3 out of 5,019 in family  3 years ago

Im glad it worked out for you. Did you have your step children full time? I had mine for 35%. That meant their bio mother had much greater access, & thus, much more influence. My ex-hubby knew that, but he was unable to change their behaviours, and eventually, he took it out on me.


myLot reputation of 95/100. musicman6 (2070)  3 years ago

Yes, probably not everybody will be lucky enough to have the ideal situations!
They lived with me and their mother, and I think what helped was when they were with their Dad, he didn't say anything bad about me, to them!
He and my wife stayed friends after a few years, and even he and I became friends also, we even went to his wedding when he got married again!

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10. myLot reputation of 92/100. zandi458 (11483)   ranked 296 out of 5,019 in family   3 years ago

Stepmothers are often viewed as wicked witch by stepchildren in many fairy tales stories but in reality stepmothers are the most misunderstood mothers of all mothers. They should be given the chance to prove their worthiness in giving and receiving love from both sides. I think most divorced men when entering into new relationships should have carefully chosen women who can accept them with extra luggage and who can be alternative mothers to their kids. It is no longer the stepmothers who are wicked but stepchildren has become the barrier in most relationships. They can either make or break a relationship. It is tough to be on a second marriage with men carrying extra load. It needs extra efforts to please everyone (husband and stepchildren) to earn permanency in a second marriage.


myLot reputation of 98/100. jennybianca (7229)   ranked 3 out of 5,019 in family  3 years ago

Your summary is very accurate. I did know my huby had "baggage" when I married him, but little did I know how difficult it would be. His kids were quite extreme with their behaviour & I ended up resenting them, partly because my ex hubby favoured them.


myLot reputation of 92/100. zandi458 (11483)   ranked 296 out of 5,019 in family  3 years ago

Your ex did not think deep and hard when he made another fatal mistake to end his second marriage. He is definitely torn between two sides, his children and his wife. Looks like he made the wrong turning without realizing that one day the children will have their independent lives to lead leaving him a lonely man to face the uncertain future. Even if he finds another woman in his life, I am sure history will repeat itself if he can't differentiate between wrong and right and can't settle for the right decision.

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