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myLot reputation of 95/100. Hatley (48776)   ranked 448 out of 27,455 in mylot.com 3 years ago

I just read a comment that made the poster really upset, the comment went if the poster could not afford a vet bill he'should not have a dog. Now on the face of it that might make sense, but
the poster was trying to explain when he got the dog he was not in
any financial trouble, now he was as he has had the dog for quite some time. Was it necessary for the commenter to make this snippy comment? It had nothing to do with answering the discussion really only that the poster had worries about his elderly dog's health and was leery of b eing able to pay a vet. Why do we have to judge each other here on mylot? I mean in a discussion about a dogs health is no place for a lecture on how to live surely. If nothing else the commenter could have been kinder. In todays economy a lot of middle class people are among the jobless.

 

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1. myLot reputation of 99/100. GardenGerty (35334)   ranked 149 out of 27,455 in mylot.com   3 years ago

It gets too easy to be unkind and to judge others. I am sure you said something in the discussion to try to tone it down and now you are here reminding us that we all need to have some kindness in our hearts. Sometimes there are agencies that will assist in caring for pets, I hope the other poster finds this to be true. Hatley in this trying time the kind voice is often not heard. I do wonder if the person who responded could hear how they sounded to others?


myLot reputation of 95/100. Hatley (48776)   ranked 448 out of 27,455 in mylot.com  3 years ago

hi garden gertie he said he did not apolgize for what he said, and I thought it must be nice to be so darned righteous. he he.
I don't think I responded as I got this idea for a discussion and did not go back. I will tell the person that there are agencies that aid in caring for pets. yes kind voices get blotted our while we are all trying to do the best we can for ourselves.

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2. myLot reputation of 87/100. fwidman (5652)   ranked 2,096 out of 27,455 in mylot.com   3 years ago

I can sympathize with the dog owner. I've had my dog for fifteen years or so. When I got the dog I was employed and making more than enough money to cover all my expenses and then some. Now that I am retired I am barely making ends meet. If my dog got sick I would have a hard time figuring out how to pay for the vet and medicines that the dog might need. I agree that the person that left a comment should have been a little kinder. No need to judge others by what you can do happy


myLot reputation of 95/100. Hatley (48776)   ranked 448 out of 27,455 in mylot.com  3 years ago

hi fwidman me too been there and done that. one of our mylotters says there are agencies that will aid people in caring for their pets. I am going to respond to that person's discussion after all as I can tell him or her there is help. I think people get so used to be they can do that they forget there but for the grace of God go I.


myLot reputation of 87/100. fwidman (5652)   ranked 2,096 out of 27,455 in mylot.com  3 years ago

Often there are vets in an area that will care for animals for a lower price because they truly care about animals. A call to that person's local animal shelter should be able to gather that type of information.
I always have liked that phrase, there but for the grace of God go I happy


myLot reputation of 95/100. Hatley (48776)   ranked 448 out of 27,455 in mylot.com  3 years ago

hi fwidman me too long ago Ihad a dog and a cat and would have felt just awful if one of them were ill and I could not afford
to pay for the vet. but we did know a vet friend who would have helped us out had we needed help.

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3. myLot reputation of 96/100. mlhuff12 (585)   ranked 278 out of 27,455 in mylot.com   3 years ago

The reason we put up discussions is sometimes for help on a problem and ones opinion. You can't expect that when you put up a discussion for people not to put what they really think. Granted that person could have been a little more sensitive to the certain situation. After all, some people consider their pets their children.It surely does sound like the insensitive person was never a dog owner. He shouldn't have gotten upset, after all it is maybe 1 person out of how many think that. But in this economy employment changes. One could be living comfortably, then all of a sudden unemployed. You can't really rely on anything. I believe the majority of the people on MyLot are caring individuals who want to help and support a fellow My Lotter. So I guess the commenter was in his right, but I personally would never have gone there.


myLot reputation of 95/100. Hatley (48776)   ranked 448 out of 27,455 in mylot.com  3 years ago

mlhuff12 yes of course there is that but still why kick someone when he is down, out of work, and thinks his dog may be ill? thats not the time to preach at him. this person had the dog for many years. I know almost all of us are really very caring
people on mylot and I have some good suggestions for the person with the ailing dog now.thumbupthumbup


myLot reputation of 99/100. purplealabaster (3666)   ranked 76 out of 27,455 in mylot.com  3 years ago

Mlhuff12, I can understand your point about myLot being a discussion forum, so if you post a discussion then you should expect differences of opinions, and likewise if you ask for help with a problem then you might not like all the solutions that people come up with. That being said, we should all try to respect each other and try to word things so that we do not offend people or hurt their feelings - constructive criticism versus destructive criticism. From the sound of it, this person was just being cruel to somebody that was obviously concerned about the welfare of his dog, who he obviously loves, so that is totally uncalled for, in my opinion.


myLot reputation of 96/100. mlhuff12 (585)   ranked 278 out of 27,455 in mylot.com  3 years ago

I agree that we should try to be sensitive to others. However, some people are so thick headed that they may not even know what they're saying and how it really looks.


myLot reputation of 99/100. purplealabaster (3666)   ranked 76 out of 27,455 in mylot.com  3 years ago

That is a very good point. They might think that they are being helpful, and that might truly be their motivation, but to other people reading their words, they really are sounding cruel and insensitive. I did have one experience with somebody like that. This person was trying to help, but the way they worded their reply sounded very mean, especially since the original poster of the discussion was on the verge of a crisis and very sensitive. I tried to help, but the responder bit my head off. I just do not think that this person realized how their words really sounded to everybody else, especially since I was not the only one that thought this person was being rude. I guess that there are people like that everywhere, and we just have to do our best to try to avoid them and not let their words bother us too much when we do encounter them. That is much easier said than done, though, especially when we are already feeling upset about things that are happening on our lives.


myLot reputation of 95/100. Hatley (48776)   ranked 448 out of 27,455 in mylot.com  3 years ago

yes I think he thought he was helping but the person posting about his dog did not feel that way and thus he was far from being helped. a postive thing would have been to suggest he may'
be able to find a place that assists pet owners when they have financial problems with paying a vet.

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4. myLot reputation of 99/100. catdla1 (3698)   ranked 724 out of 27,455 in mylot.com   3 years ago

It was a very unkind and thoughtless thing to say for a couple of reasons. One, as the pet owner stated and is all too frequently true today, financial situations can change in a flash. Families that enjoyed expensive homes, multiple cars and all the other trappings of wealth, can suddenly find themselves strapped or worse, homeless. Just as people can fall victim to the downturn in economy, so can't pets.
Secondly, there really isn't any good pet insurance available. Some pets, as they age may require expensive care...or they may not. There is no way to predict the future medical needs of a beloved pet.
If this individual had a child that suddenly needed a heart or lung transplant and he/she didn't have adequate health insurance to cover it, how would they feel if some one told them that they shouldn't have had children? I don't understand the unkindness some people show towards each other.


myLot reputation of 95/100. Hatley (48776)   ranked 448 out of 27,455 in mylot.com  3 years ago

hi catdla1 yes thats the way I felt too as things now in'our economy can change so fast as my own life changed, and we did
not do anything wrong but it still happened. I wondered about
that too, I can imagine how he would feel in that situation and that does happen too. when I broke my left shoulder and had to have a shoulder joint replacement it cost 86000 dollars and if I had not been on medicare and secure horizons how would Ihave been able to pay it? it boggles the mind, and this also happens to people younger than myself who do not have adequate insurance. yet they have to have the replacement as you could not go around with crumbled bone in your shoulder. Seems to me that kindness does not cost a penny.


myLot reputation of 99/100. catdla1 (3698)   ranked 724 out of 27,455 in mylot.com  3 years ago

Hi Hatley! Thanks! Did you see that I found the discussion you were referencing? The individual who was so unkind seemed to think that affordable and comprehensive pet insurance was available globally. I gave (I think) a more encouraging and kinder answer and pointed out to the rude responder that insurance probably is not available everywhere. That person was one who would certainly benefit from walking a mile or two in some one else's shoes.


myLot reputation of 95/100. Hatley (48776)   ranked 448 out of 27,455 in mylot.com  3 years ago

hi glad you found it as I have been searching but evidently not in the right place. glad you said something to that harsh man
and maybe it will help him to be more sympathetic to others from now ond. I guess we all tend to think everyone is in the same boat and that's so silly as we come from all over the world and from different circumstances too

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5. myLot reputation of 98/100. Kashmeresmycat (2389)   ranked 1,640 out of 27,455 in mylot.com   3 years ago

You know Hatley, people sometimes are just so insensitive to other people's feelings, it gets downright irritating after a while.

Number one, the person who answered that way I'm sure is not in any financial need, probably has a great job, or a husband who provides well, or inherited some money. If you don't know what it's like, how the heck can you judge anyone? That was so very unnecessary to say it that way, instead of having some compassion.

There are alot of people today who are out of work, not because they want to be, they lost their jobs. You know that, and I know that. They might have had these jobs for years, and boom, all gone. Well, they probably had the pets for years too, so now all of a sudden, some smarta$$ comes along and tells them he shouldn't have a dog if he can't afford a vet? Uncalled for....heartless and clueless to what is going on in the world, or just too busy shopping to care.

I'm in the same situation right now, no job, and I've had my cat for 17 years, am I suppose to give her away?


myLot reputation of 95/100. Hatley (48776)   ranked 448 out of 27,455 in mylot.com  3 years ago

Kashmeresmycat yes it just struck me as being really unkind
and rather thoughtless. People who are in no pain just do'
not realize that there are so many out of work and they
almost all have had pets for years. No keep your cat and do'
whatever you can he he. So many people on mylot are out of'
work right now and we should all be aware of this situation.


myLot reputation of 84/100. rjblueyes (138)   ranked 10,984 out of 27,455 in mylot.com  3 years ago

I agree! Something else the commenter overlooked....Isn't the discussion starter here on mylot?! I mean come one! Maybe they're trying to make some money to take thier pet to the vet. At least they're trying. I can't stand people that flap thier jaws. Think before you say (or type) something! Geez, or do they seriously not care? If not, they will soon when it's them. Then they'll start a discussion looking for sympathy, while some smart alek posts like they did and then they'll whine. Sorry, I'm rambling. Lol, maybe I should go smoke. Errr... it makes me so angry to see that!


myLot reputation of 95/100. Hatley (48776)   ranked 448 out of 27,455 in mylot.com  3 years ago

hi fellow mylotters I just hope that one day the commenter
realizes he or she could just as easily be in the same
financial problems as the dog owner and thumbdownthen will whimper that nobody seems to care. lol maybe what goes around
will come around again and bite the commenter in the butt.thumbdownthumbdown

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6. myLot reputation of 96/100. tamarafireheart (13724)   ranked 699 out of 27,455 in mylot.com   3 years ago

Hi Hatley,


All too often people are ready to put people down when something like this happens, its not the poster's fault if he no longer can afford the vet bill, but it depends on where you live, but he can get help to pay for the vet bill.


Tamara


myLot reputation of 95/100. Hatley (48776)   ranked 448 out of 27,455 in mylot.com  3 years ago

hi tamarafireheart yes thats what another mylotter told me and I am going to suggest to the pet owner that he find out if there is help for pets in his area,I believe it was a he. I will soon
find out. I would love to have a cat or dog, small one of course, but while its allowed it ups your rent a hundred dollars a month which I cannot afford. so I just share occasionally when someone shows me their cat or dog. he he.

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7. myLot reputation of 97/100. Java09 (1657)   ranked 1,347 out of 27,455 in mylot.com   3 years ago

I think people should respond nice.You shouldn't assume the discussion is something it's not,people have commented to me that way and I did report the comment and it was deleted.I started a discussion about how I want to lose weight and someone pretty much told me I shopuld stop eating junk food and go buy produce instead,they said it in a very rude way.People come on here and try to ask advice sometimes.


myLot reputation of 95/100. Hatley (48776)   ranked 448 out of 27,455 in mylot.com  3 years ago

Hi Java 09 yes I do agree as we all have problems and we bring
them to mylot to see if the rest may be able to help us. You
know I have also been on the wrong end of a rude crack when I
mentioned I needed to lose weight. I think people feel its just fine to make mean sarcastic cracks about us overweight people. That could have been suggested in a kind way without being mean or rude, and really that person was judging you and not knowing at all what your situation was.a lot of overweight people do not eat junk food, and theres a zillion reasons why they are overweight.


myLot reputation of 99/100. purplealabaster (3666)   ranked 76 out of 27,455 in mylot.com  3 years ago

Oh Java09, you have just pushed one of my "buttons"! It really gets me all worked up when people assume that overweight people eat a ton of unhealthy, junk food, don't exercise, are lazy, etc.angry There are way too many factors that contribute to obesity that everybody can't be lumped into one group, and there is no "magic cure" for it. If there was, then some people would not be fighting with it all their lives, especially when they do try to eat healthy foods, exercise, practice portion control, and count calories. Some factors are genetic, and others are situation-related, and these are sometimes out of our hands, so the weight creeps on and once there it is very difficult to get rid of, especially if there are factors other than unhealthy eating working against you. It makes me so angry that people feel that they have a right to be rude to people that are overweight or even obese, because they feel that these people do not have the same rights as everybody else or their feelings do not matter or whatever their twisted little minds believe. I am sorry for going on about this. Did I mention that this issue is one of my "hot buttons"?surrender whistle


myLot reputation of 95/100. Hatley (48776)   ranked 448 out of 27,455 in mylot.com  3 years ago

hi purple me too, I am overweight due to a bunch of things and iA am diabetic, some of my weight came from the side effects of Avandia which has warnings on it now but still on the shelf,I gained forty five pounds in three weeks, all in my legs,once off of it I lost about thirty pounds but the other weight plus gaining more snuck back on. I am determined this is the year, my doctor just looked at me and smiled, but he also said he wants to see me every three months now instead of six months so guess my weight and my not so good blood sugar control has convinced him I have problems with the food that Gold Crest serves just,too much carbs not enough protein. but i am starting to work on it, and hopefully in a month or two the scales will move down for me.

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8. myLot reputation of 97/100. dragon54u (15683)   ranked 35 out of 27,455 in mylot.com   3 years ago

There are many people who don't really read the discussions. They skim a post, think they understand what it's about and then set about putting their foot into their mouth. Others are judgmental because they haven't suffered in this recession/depression or lost a job just to find another shortly after. They feel smug and safe and think those that are in trouble have dug their own financial graves through financial irresponsibility so that even when it comes to a sensitive subject like a beloved pet, they are demeaning and callous.

Then there are people who are just mean. And they are pretty pathetic.

I hope the person with the dog wasn't hurt too badly. It's an awful thing to be worried about a pet or person that you love and may not be able to help if the worst happens.


myLot reputation of 95/100. Hatley (48776)   ranked 448 out of 27,455 in mylot.com  3 years ago

hi dragon54u yes that is true and its sad because too many times
they mistake the contents and again they also have never been unemployed and dont even know what its like. to judge someone just because they are out of work is both unfair and unkind. He as much as admitted he was harsh but said he did not apologize. well my it must be nice to be so self righteous. The poster was really worried about his pet dog, and I know that feeling myself.
He did protest against that commenters response but it did no
good. sad to think like that.thumbdownthumbdownglare

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9. myLot reputation of 99/100. ElicBxn (24685)   ranked 25 out of 27,455 in mylot.com   3 years ago

and its not like I wanted to have all these cats - but people won't be responsible for their own pets and so I agreed to try to find homes for them hey - we've found homes for 17 cats in the last few years


myLot reputation of 95/100. Hatley (48776)   ranked 448 out of 27,455 in mylot.com  3 years ago

hi ElicBxn I am so glad that there are people like you who
will help these poor pets to get into a home where they
are wanted. thats great that you have found homes for 17
cats in the last few years. I wish more people would do
that.I grew up on the farm, and town people would drop off
unwanted kittens and puppies too along our fence. we would
take them in and care for them, then find another farm family'who did want a kitten or a puppy as we knew they 'would give them a good home and care for them. the town people were not as kind to animals.


myLot reputation of 99/100. ElicBxn (24685)   ranked 25 out of 27,455 in mylot.com  3 years ago

if they'd just FIX their pets they wouldn't have this problem!

My folks fixed our dog back in 1959, so the procedure has been around a while...


myLot reputation of 95/100. Hatley (48776)   ranked 448 out of 27,455 in mylot.com  3 years ago

yes I am sure it was even back then so they just did not'
want to spend what was probably pretty cheap fees then to
neuter their pets,and just dumped them on our farm instead.'I am so proud of my parents as they made sure these little pets would have good homes with loving people who would care for them.

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10. myLot reputation of 94/100. allknowing (5160)   ranked 690 out of 27,455 in mylot.com   3 years ago

You must have already mentioned this to the one who made that comment as she/he is the main person who should know what you feel.


myLot reputation of 95/100. Hatley (48776)   ranked 448 out of 27,455 in mylot.com  3 years ago

hi allknowing yes that is a great idea and also ask the
pet owner to check and see if there are agencies in his
city that help pet owners who are without funds. But I
really do not want to start a fight with this person.
we shall see.

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