Stupid legal system

@dawnald (85137)
Shingle Springs, California
May 12, 2010 8:22am CST
I want to be a Native American. Like from before Europeans came here. Then I could just put his shoes outside the house and be done with it. What do you think?
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@mentalward (14690)
• United States
12 May 10
I've always thought that divorce should be the easy part. Getting married should be hard! I have to agree with you about the "stupid legal system". I've had dealings with it (as the innocent one) several times in my life and it would be so much simpler if this saying wasn't true: "Men, you can't live with them, you can't shoot them." Once we get wrapped up in the legal system, THAT'S when things get complicated. All we can do is play along with the game, take deep breaths, do some meditation and dream of revenge.
@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
12 May 10
Oh it really isn't as bad as all that. I just don't want to go down to the dang courthouse and pay the stupid fee and then have to get somebody else to serve him because I can't do it. It's just a little intimidating, I guess... I'm not even into the whole mess with custody and property and all that crap yet.
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@mentalward (14690)
• United States
12 May 10
I've done that myself. It wasn't bad. The worst part was finding a parking spot. The people at the courthouse were very nice and helpful. It is a pain when you think of all the paperwork involved and those stupid little fees but it's a lot cheaper than doing it through a lawyer. I know a lawyer would have wanted at least four times more just for taking the forms to the courthouse, probably more. Good luck, though. I hope you don't have any problems with the custody or property issues or, if you do, that they are minor and can be resolved quickly.
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• Canada
12 May 10
"Revenge is a dish...best served cold." Be it man, OR woman...someone always winds up getting hurt the most. cdrxo
@saphrina (31551)
• South Africa
12 May 10
Okay, breath and leave that shoes alone. Anything can go wrong, you know. Any legal system is stupid, but you have to start at the point. You lost me about three blocks back. TATA.
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
12 May 10
I'm just whining. Don't mind me....
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@saphrina (31551)
• South Africa
12 May 10
Realy Dawny?? You think i would fall for that one??
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
12 May 10
Why wouldn't you fall for it?
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@GardenGerty (169449)
• United States
12 May 10
Well, Dawnie, I did not know that was the case, about the shoes, guess it depends on the tribes. I suppose Mr. Helpless is trying to fight back?
@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
12 May 10
He's acting like nothing's wrong again. But I'm just whining because I have to get offa my duff and go down to the courthouse and deal with this...
• United States
12 May 10
The 500 nations were connected to their , the earth. And thus really connected to each other. I wouldn't be a good Native American.I am not connected to the earth, not really.
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• United States
12 May 10
Hang in there. It will be tough but in the end you will be free. If you ever need to talk, send me a private message.
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
12 May 10
okee thanks... :-)
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
12 May 10
I probably wouldn't either, but for some tribes divorce was surely pretty simple.
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@cynthiann (18612)
• Jamaica
12 May 10
As easy as that? You could organise his demise out here by a 'shotta'(gunman) for US$50. Well, I do know that that is expensive but it may be something to think about............. I do hope that you have smiled?
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
12 May 10
Evil Dawn laughed....
@jb78000 (15139)
12 May 10
put his shoes outside the house as a symbolic gesture, have a brownie and try not to get too frustrated by the stupid legal system. then have a cookie.
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
12 May 10
There's free breakfast today at work, that will help. :-) Plus, shhhh, I brought chocolate too! :D
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@cynthiann (18612)
• Jamaica
12 May 10
and then perhaps some chocolate?
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@jb78000 (15139)
12 May 10
i think you need it. so first breakfast = free breakfast, second breakfast = chocolate. do you need any more breakfasts? i usually do
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
13 May 10
Lol is that how they do it there
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
13 May 10
No, but I wish!!!
@jillhill (37353)
• United States
12 May 10
That's an awesome idea...so what would your Indian name be? We have nick names at work....based on Native American names....
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
12 May 10
Sunrise still asleep?
@bunnybon7 (50970)
• Holiday, Florida
13 May 10
i had to do this 4 times. the biggest problem i had was each time another was waiting for me to bring his shoes in yes i guess it was a lot easier for my ancestors.
@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
13 May 10
well if it's the wrong guy, just put those shoes right back out again!!!
@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
13 May 10
well that sucks...
@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
12 May 10
Hey dawn! My bf did that all winter! Does that mean that's all I needed to do was put the rest of the stuff out there too?
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
12 May 10
Yeah in 1602, if you were native American...
@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
13 May 10
How frustrating...Putting his shoes out of the door would be so easy and it sure would help if he was in those shoes and walked away in them! I bet he still carries on as if nothing is wrong and you’re the one that feels like your life is on hold...Typically male behaviour...Deny, deny, deny and it all may just go away!
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
13 May 10
exactly right, deny, deny, deny....
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• United States
12 May 10
I think that I am very lucky that it was a mutual decision that we talked about and agreed upon. It was difficult enough then, even though it was amicable and we still are friends and interact. I am sorry to hear that you have to go through this.
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
12 May 10
This isn't mutual, but so far it's mostly amicable...
@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
12 May 10
especially the children...
• United States
12 May 10
It is great if it can remain amicable, especially if it is not mutual. I hope that it works out for you, especially since that would be best for the children as well as the two of you.
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@much2say (57760)
• Los Angeles, California
12 May 10
I didn't know they did that! I am thinking it may be more effective to put "him" outside the house and be done with - hee hee.
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
12 May 10
I think the idea is that if the shoes are outside, the body will follow...
@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
12 May 10
That would probably attract skunks. Dawn is deciding if that is a good thing or a bad thing.
@much2say (57760)
• Los Angeles, California
12 May 10
How about putting some bait in the shoes . . . like some brownies - hee hee!
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@udayrao2 (781)
• India
13 May 10
What do you mean by a "Native American" - a "Red Indian" or what I presume !! - I am a little confused as I belong here in Asia - so please explain what it ( the whole para) all means then maybe I can respond Thanks in anticipation of clarification
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
13 May 10
I was reading that in some native American tribes, ie peoples native to the Americas before there were European settlers, that the women could divorce their husbands by placing his shoes outside the tent or house. I'm just saying that I wish it were that simple nowadays.
@marguicha (230351)
• Chile
14 May 10
Its moccasins udayrao, not shoes as we use now.
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@udayrao2 (781)
• India
14 May 10
Hi Are you sure about your history & facts? B'cos I do not think the natives of that time would be wearing footwear ( which came much later) in the olden ages!!! More likely that the wives left something else outside the door if there was one!! And jokes apart -yes - sometimes the legal system is too complicated even for simple matters where there everything is crystal clear- I think the old days were better in this regard.
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@BarBaraPrz (51818)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
12 May 10
If only it were that simple... Or, you could do like Evelyn Di ck (local woman of infamy from the 50s) did... They only found his torso...
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
12 May 10
Or the nice German lady in Galapagos. They never did find a body...
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@cream97 (29085)
• United States
12 May 10
Hi, dawnald. Don't feed into his mess. Leave the shoes inside of the house and be done with it. Sooner or later him and his shoes will walk out of the house together. Never to return.
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
12 May 10
This morning was him trying to kiss me as if nothing's wrong and then trying to make me feel bad because I wouldn't. Oh well.... Denial is a powerful thing, I guess.
@bellis716 (4799)
• United States
15 May 10
If you want to become a native American, you'd have to abide by ALL their tribal laws and traditions. Like our laws, some were just and fair, but some were not. I understand that some nomadic tribes would go off and leave to die the elderly who could no longer keep up with the tribe.
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
15 May 10
There's always a catch, isn't there? :-)
@savypat (20216)
• United States
12 May 10
Well if it were to easy we all might bail earlier. The fact that parting id difficult does make us stop and think, not just react. Hang in there.
@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
12 May 10
Well, there is that...
@cyrus123 (6363)
• United States
14 May 10
I have heard that when a woman of the Navajo Tribe wants a divorce, she will put all of his clothes outside the house.
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
14 May 10
Heck, I'll even put them in a U-haul.
@cyrus123 (6363)
• United States
15 May 10
LOL!!!!
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
15 May 10
I don't know that being a Native American would make anything any easier than the way that we have to deal with it today. Life is tough and I think that in all eras of the human life it has been difficult. It is just that the problems that we have to deal with today are far different from the issues that people had to deal with in the past. I'm sorry to hear that you are currently having problems with our legal system.
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
15 May 10
Oh not a problem with the legal system specifically, just intimidated by all the forms and so on...