What is Isolationism?

@Taskr36 (13963)
United States
June 19, 2011 10:17pm CST
John McCain recently ripped the current republican candidates for "isolationism". When asked about it Lindsey Graham agreed that there was an isolationist streak in the current candidates. Obviously this kind of thing is aimed at Ron Paul primarily and he's been accused of being an isolationist in the past. My question, what do YOU consider isolationism? Ron Paul is opposed to getting into wars like Iraq and Libya where clearly neither nation attacked us or sought a war with us. He generally opposes interfering with how other governments run their countries He did vote for the war in Afghanistan where they were sheltering and protecting those who attacked us on 9-11. He also proposed letters of Marque and Reprisal against the terrorists responsible for 9-11. He supports free trade although he has opposed several free trade agreements which he considers "managed trade". Aside from opposing wars against countries that haven't attacked us, and not trying to control the way other governments run their countries, I don't see exactly what about him is isolationist. Perhaps someone could explain it to me.
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@Latrivia (2878)
• United States
22 Jun 11
I think non-interventionism is confused with isolationism. Recalling McCain's past opinions, I think he'd be quite happy with marching our troops into whatever country currently holds the "bad guy of the year" to dethrone some tyrannical meanie-face and spread "democracy". In comparison to him, I suppose Ron Paul would look like an isolationist. Frankly, if there's more non-interventionism in the Republican party these days that's a cause to celebrate.
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@xfahctor (14113)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
21 Jun 11
And McCain wonders why he lost the election? This is typical republican hyperbole. It's a buzz word that has been following Paul around like the plague for decades. Ron Paul and other libertarian-ish candidates would be better described as a "non-interventionist" rather than an isolationist. An isolationist will have no relations no trade with other nations. A non-interventionist will have trade and friendly relationships, but wouldn't go around sticking our noses in to other nations internal affairs or wars.
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@dark_joev (3034)
• United States
20 Jun 11
Well McCain should understand if you aren't the ones sticking your head into everyones business you are less likely to one get attacked and to need to get involved in every thing any one country starts to do. I mean the United States has bases in almost every country it seems we need to pull back to how we where pre WWII if I am an Isolationist by McCain's idea then fine I am Happy to be one. I am for trading and having relations with countries but trade agreements isn't trade it is forced trade. If the market doesn't want it why would you force it. RON PAUL 2012! The only candidate that will make Obama a One Term President.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
20 Jun 11
Yeah, there's kind of a bulls-eye on us when were meddling in every country on the planet. The fact that we are trying to do good doesn't change the fact that people just want us out. Sure, they want our money, but nobody wants the strings attached so we need to keep both our money, and our troops out of these countries. You're right about the trade too. These free trade agreements are not inclusive, they are EXclusive. They manage trade by giving different countries different status in the international trade. I would say that Romney would make Obama a one term president, but as you already know, a Romney presidency would pretty much be a second term of Obama policies.
@_sketch_ (5742)
• United States
20 Jun 11
Well that's exactly what isolationism is. A national policy of abstaining from political or economic relations with other countries. It's about minding your own business and I agree. I don't think that we should intrude, especially when it is clear we are not wanted. It causes war, get's people killed, and wastes money.
• United States
20 Jun 11
Taskr, I would NEVER claim to understand what John McCain is thinking, I don't think anyone really wants to go down that road. But, I have heard many republicans, including Ron Paul, call for eliminating foreign aid to countries. This MAY be what they are thinking, but again, I would rather not take that scary road down the mind of John McCain.
• United States
20 Jun 11
I would say he borders on isolationalism and that is fine. McCain must be backing a different horse, so to speak, but even then I find his comments unnecessarily divisive in a Republican primary year that needs to be more united. True isolationalism, like we had strongly ingrained prior to WWII, would not work in an international economy like we have now. It is also increasingly difficult to avoid fighting around the world to keep the little conflicts from evolving into WWIII. Noone is going to forget the lessons of WWII anytime soon.
@laglen (19759)
• United States
20 Jun 11
Calling Dr Paul an isolationist is a cop out. He is for minding our business but not shutting out the rest of the world. I bet a heck of a lot of people if they read his opinion with out his name on it, most would agree. I am willing to bet that this is true for most of his stances. Isolationism, to me, will be when I find an uncharted island and mover there.....
@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
20 Jun 11
George Washington, in his Farewell Address, spoke of the wisdom of being slow to engage in quarrels between nations when there was no relationship to the US: "The great rule of conduct for us, in regard to foreign nations, is in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible. Europe has a set of primary interests, which to us have none, or a very remote relation. Hence she must be engaged in frequent controversies the causes of which are essentially foreign to our concerns. Hence, therefore, it must be unwise in us to implicate ourselves, by artificial ties, in the ordinary vicissitudes of her politics, or the ordinary combinations and collisions of her friendships or enmities." I think you could currently substitute the "Middle East" for "Europe". However, I would caution that because Israel is the only true democracy in the Middle East, we would be neglecting our duty as the beacon of liberty in the world if we abandon her to her enemies. I think we need to consider more of a policy of non-intervention than true isolationism and perhaps that is also what Ron Paul believes. At the very least, we have to recognize when we have stepped into too many burning buildings.
• United States
20 Jun 11
Ron Paul is NOT an isolationist. What is he is for is us minding our own business and I for one am all for it. But those other idiots like butting their noses in where it doesn't belong and spending billions if not trillions trying to miniplate the rest of the world. we would not tolerate other countries trying to tell us what to do...much less butting our nose in where it doesn't belong...so we should not either. It's all about egos...big egos..the "it's all about me" thing. If something..anything.. happens in the world they think because they are so great that it has something to do with them...because nothing is NOT abut them ....and if anyone does not think EVERYTHING is their business than that person is stupid or crazy....and we wonder why we are hated so much by so many parts of the world.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
20 Jun 11
I wasn't real familiar with him until recently. I am finding he's pretty balanced as far as being ready but not aggessive, which is how I feel we should be. Keep the military up to date, trained and ready. Bring them home to protect our borders here. As for trade, that I am not real informed on. So I'll take a pass. I know he isn't for NAFTA. That's all I felt I needed to know.