happily married, should one feel sad that others do not have that?
@Hatley (163772)
Garden Grove, California
May 12, 2012 3:05pm CST
I have read some heart rending discussons where women are more living than loved, and are so unhappy but not just saying that, just hinting
at it. I feel odd inside as I had very little problems in my marriage although like most people we had our trials too, but we had them together.I know at times I come off making my husband sound like a saint when he was very human and had faults like we all do.
But we were raised to believe in unconditional love and in marriage, and in working to keep a marriage happy and alive. So am I wrong in
being happy for my past when others here are really ,miserable in their marriages or relationships? your take fellow mylotters.
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@saphrina (31551)
• South Africa
12 May 12
Hello sweetie.
I dont think its wrong to feel happy about your past.
My mom tell me a lot of times, we made our bed, we have to sleep on it.
A lot of women have extremely hard lives, but it makes them stronger, as sad as that may sound.
Happiness will eventually come their way.
Miss ya.@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
12 May 12
hi saphie you are here. good glad to see you. yes oddly our lives even the hard parts do actually make us stronger. we lost a child and sometimes couples actually split over something like that but we supported each other and it became a bit easier as time went on, not that we ever would forget but we could talk about her without weeping first,like what does not kill you actually does make you stronger. Miss you too , so come here more often. hugs





@MoonGypsy (4605)
• United States
12 May 12
no, it's nothing to feel bad about. you would feel even worse if you were in one of those miserable relationships your self. i say be happy that you were blessed to be in a good marriage. it's okay to sympathize for others though.
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
12 May 12
hi moongypsy I am a widow since 1991 but still love him and miss him so treasure all my memories.I do most definitely feel for those whose discussions I have read. some are in cultures where the women are supposed to be always obedient and submissive even to the point where where the hubby walks all over her.this
makes me glad I was and am an American. lol lol lol.

makes me glad I was and am an American. lol lol lol.

@mr_pearl (5018)
• India
13 May 12
Hey Hatley... You are so kind dear... You've been thinking 10 steps ahead of others. Not everyone does that! No, you are wrong in feeling good about your past. If your past has been happy and fulfilled then consider it as your earning. You made your life happy dear. When I say you made it, I mean it is something that you could do, which others like me are not able to do... People like me end up alone, unhappy and forgotten... But you are special Hatley... You made it better for yourself, and you should be proud of it...
Take care....
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
13 May 12
hi mrpearl don't fret typos and me are well acquainted. lol I am glad that its okay to feel good about my own married life. we had some big hardships but we supported each other and survived them and still loved each other. You can be happy though Mr Pearl just where you are as I, who do not like retirement centers, am happy here in G old Crest retirement center. We cannot be made happy by others, we have to make ourselves happy. you can do it,honestly. and remember here you do have friends.
@mr_pearl (5018)
• India
15 May 12
Thank you... Yes, I know I have friends here.. I'm very glad of it... Its the friends here on myLot, who make my life tolerable.. Whenever I'm alone and sad and feeling left out; I just come here and speak to you guys... I am happy to be here... Take care dear.... :-)
@kalav56 (11464)
• India
13 May 12
You are absolutely right in feeling happy about your marriage Hatley.In this world there are all sorts of people with all sorts of problems. You had a happy married life but as you yourself pointed out here were trials also. Finally there is an element of "making' our married lives happy too; now this takes a lot of cooperation and understanding. Not all couples are blessed with this. We [more so you] belong to an age where you worked at your marriage. Tolerance is on the wane these days. People choose to be that way and everyone wants everything one’s own way; then why get married at all?
In genuine cases of misery caused by brutal behavior and drunken irresponsibility it is better to leave a person. There is no point staying and feeling miserable.
Coming back to your question, you need not feel bad at all. You have been facing a lot and are in a retirement center now; is that not trouble? You are entitled to your share of happiness by dwelling in the past irrespective of who does what. I, however agree that we do feel bad when others are miserable. But, there is no need to feel guilty; we can only pray sincerely for them.
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
13 May 12
hi kalav we married when marriage meant something and divorce was not smiled on. but we had love for each other, and had respect and trust and I could talk to him about anything,without real
communication between couples marriage will falter. Respect too has
to be there along with love and trust too. My parents were the opposite, they did not belong together at all. My dad was forty years older than mymom and was an old man when he married her, He abused her verbally and because she had never worked outside the home, she was afraid to leave him as she knew not how to support herself.so I was afraid of marriage til I met my hubby to be and he was it, the right one.I talked a lot abou t my parents and he made it a point to show me real respect and I think he tried to make up
for the bitter memories I had of my parents quarrels. I agree when a man starts battering , the woman has got to leave, forget the I loved him part and get the hell out of there. too many wait and become statistics.





@mentalward (14690)
• United States
12 May 12
Oh, heck no, Hatley! You have every right to enjoy and talk about the wonderful memories you have of your marriage. I'm in the middle of hell right now in my marriage but it does me good to hear about how wonderful yours was. It gives me hope, you know?
I was raised with the same beliefs as you, especially about unconditional love. Unfortunately, I have not found the same and have been fooled more than once. This time, it's with a narcissistic sociopath with borderline personality disorder. The more I read about these issues, the more he fits the description. I've been at an unprecedented low point in my life recently and just don't know where to turn but have been lucky enough to have found a support group online for partners of narcissistic people with borderline personality disorder. I JUST signed up so I'll have to spend some time there to see if it helps any.
Still, even though I've been unable to meet a "good" man who was available and who could love me, I'm extremely happy for you and everyone else who is fortunate enough to have found a loving, thoughtful mate.


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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
13 May 12
oh mentalward if I remember your other discussion that he was acting like he wanted to die not doing any of the things
that could help him, or am I thinking of some one else.pdd how some people have the luck of the Irish and flout all cautions and yet live on and some like my husband do not.mentalward, I am wondering could you leave him as he does not sound like he's really trying to get well? I know you won't have his money but you could have something almost as good,happiness again..and perhaps find a
man who would love you for you.





@mentalward (14690)
• United States
13 May 12
I know that, to most, becoming a widow is hard and something you have to adjust to but, in my case, I'd LOVE to become a widow! Sadly, he has demonstrated that he has the luck of at least 100 people because his extremely unhealthy lifestyle SHOULD have killed him by this time but hasn't. I'd be a financially stable widow, too, if I had that kind of luck. He has $200,000.00 worth of life insurance on himself. That would keep me in this house for awhile. But, this is all just wishful thinking. He's going to die a lonely, old man in his 90's at least. He'll probably outlive me.
I'm glad that you are happy in your singledom. I hope I can say that one day. After this, I don't want anything to do with marriage again. I may even be swearing off men altogether but haven't made a definite decision on that yet.
All I can say is, they'll have to be extraordinarily special guys to get my attention from this point on.
All I can say is, they'll have to be extraordinarily special guys to get my attention from this point on.
@vandana7 (102698)
• India
13 May 12
Hatley sweetie..happy mother's day.
Your happiness is from within. Your wants were limited. We are happy when we are fulfilled in some way. Perhaps you feared you would never find a person who would accept you after your past so your satisfaction was great at being accepted and you found it easier to compromise on issues which others find it tough because they are not receiving much in the relationship?
Everybody has their reasons to be happy and unhappy. The ability, however, is within us. I can choose to be unhappy over whatever happened in my past, or I can choose to paint or watch movies or teach kids or myLot. It is up to me to identify which of my feelings create unhappiness for me and which do not. If it is envy that makes me unhappy then I need to curb that. If it is self pity that makes me unhappy then I need to control that. If it is anger that causes me unhappiness then I need to control that. All these are my emotions. What others do cannot harm me unless I let them.
Your happiness is from within. Your wants were limited. We are happy when we are fulfilled in some way. Perhaps you feared you would never find a person who would accept you after your past so your satisfaction was great at being accepted and you found it easier to compromise on issues which others find it tough because they are not receiving much in the relationship?
Everybody has their reasons to be happy and unhappy. The ability, however, is within us. I can choose to be unhappy over whatever happened in my past, or I can choose to paint or watch movies or teach kids or myLot. It is up to me to identify which of my feelings create unhappiness for me and which do not. If it is envy that makes me unhappy then I need to curb that. If it is self pity that makes me unhappy then I need to control that. If it is anger that causes me unhappiness then I need to control that. All these are my emotions. What others do cannot harm me unless I let them. 1 person likes this

@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
13 May 12
hi vandy yesindeed Happy Mothers day. I learned from my own husband that others cannot make us happy really,as it has to
come from within,.Yes for a long time I did not want to marry'as I lived with the quarrels daily, my mom wanted out but did not know' ow to support herself, she had never held a job outside the home as back then girls were taught to marry out of high school and were not taught to get jobs and be self supporting.such a big mistake.My dad forty years my mom's senior was a bitter, soured old man who trusted no one. she was afraid t o tell him how badly she felt when he made fun of her. I also was afraid t o telk to my dad, He never smiled not once.So I was 32 when I met my hubby and it was literally love at first site. we had a lot in common and also we were total opposite, he was an extrovert happy all the time, I was shy and introverted and pessimistic too.But he taught me so much on liking myself and having real self esteem and I taught him to be more careful and not trust door to door salesmen.yes vandy its odd that we actually do like self pitying. 





@vandana7 (102698)
• India
13 May 12
Effectively, people - including me, often surrender the keys to the door of their unhappiness to others. This door can be opened with many keys. Including dissatisfaction. We also have a few keys that we can use to lock the door like achieving our objectives. The more satisfied we become the less inclined we will be to look for reasons to be unhappy and start self pitying. Strangely we like self pitying.
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@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
13 May 12
Absolutely not!!! You should be blessed to have had a good marriage, because today that is something that is rare. You know the problems I am having, and though I am not as happy, I really do love hearing about your relationship, because it gives me hope that it can still happen for me..


@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
13 May 12
You are right, those three are important and why my marriage has problems, those three are not a part of our relationship..

@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
13 May 12
hi carm yes theres always hope and we had our ups and o wns bu t the thing is we supported each other, we loved but we also liked each other, and were best friends too. I think the thing for me was that my husband made it a point to respect me as my dad did not my mom, he was forty years older and verbally abused her yet she loved him , why I d o not know. I made a vow not to marry til I had some job skills and boy did that come in handy when I did marry. you never know what can happen so I was glad i had supported myself before I ever got married my mom did not so she wanted out but was afraid as she did not know how to support herself. oddly my husband heard all about my parents and he did a lot to make up for the unhappiness I saw in m y growing up,. oh we had a few spats but we always made up and we worked to keep our marriage good. I think the think in marriage is resp ect, trust, and good communication you really need all three.





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@jerzgirl (9384)
• United States
13 May 12
No, you shouldn't feel guilty for being happy with what you had. And, others should learn to live their lives whether or not they're married. Being married isn't a cure-all for loneliness or sadness. You have to find that within yourself, with or without someone else. Personally, I think women should learn to love their own company above all else. There are no guarantees that we will all be married or, if we do, that we will stay married. We'd better be prepared to be alone for at least a portion of our lives and still be content. I'm happier now that I am divorced than I ever was before or after being married. Some of that is simply maturity, but that's maybe what some people need to have first. I almost wish I'd matured sooner. I do envy those who have had happy marital lives, but I'm not jealous and I don't wish to ever try again. I think those who manage to have that kind of life are very fortunate and blessed.
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@jerzgirl (9384)
• United States
13 May 12
I love that story! My mother was 31 when she married Dad (who was 24). It was HER second marriage. The first didn't last three years as her husband got himself a girlfriend while she was taking care of her dying mother. I was born just before her 38th birthday. But, it wasn't happy times. Dad drank to get away from his problems, occasionally wasting his entire paycheck. But, it was Mom who was the optimist, who always saw the good in the world. I'm afraid I didn't learn much growing up because I married worse than Dad, but finally divorced after 9 years. Been that way since 1989. But, I'm always thrilled to hear about those who have had successful marriages. It's amazing how many of the couples I graduated with are still happily married today. Sometimes it works.
I'm really sorry to hear about your daughter, though. I didn't know about that. It had to be hard. I was my parents' only child, only pregnancy. And, I have two, but lost three in between them.
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@celticeagle (189833)
• Boise, Idaho
13 May 12
More living than loved? What does that mean? I always made bad choices where men were concerns. Tried four times and none were worth keeping. Infact I never really married for keeps. It was to learn something from them. I would learn and move on. Truly. It took me a while to learn this about myself.
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
13 May 12
oh my gosh Celtic I saw that just after I hit post, it was a typo I missed. should have been more loving than loved. i was thinking of one discussion I read where the woman was really miserable but
afraid to tell her husband . She was in a country where men are the dominant thing in a marriage and the wife is to be obedient always. but I told her women are human beings and obedience is one thing
but letting a man walk all over you then just suffer in silence is wrong. no matter what culture we all are human beings and as such are due some respect.I married late as I had seen the awful marriage of my young mom to my old sour embittered dad. the fights, and she could not leave him as she did not know how to support herself, she had never worked outside the home.I did and was glad as in our marriage I had to go back to work several times and had no problem as nurses aides are always in need.I had a happy marriage asnd some was because I had told my husband about my parents marriage and I think he mae a special effort to always respect me.my dad did not respect my mom like he should have. to me respect , love and trust are all needed in a good marriage.We are all different Celtic and is that not wonderful as otherwise this would be a boring old world.
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@celticeagle (189833)
• Boise, Idaho
14 May 12
You were lucky to have found a great guy. I have some great stories to tell about mine. The one I really loved wouldn't marry me. Sad story there. But it does take all kinds.
@shibham (16977)
• India
13 May 12
Hi hatley...
It is your life and there is nothing wrong in enjoying it according to your wish. We need to think about others(as we should not be so self-centered) but there should be a limit. I mean should not make our own life more miserable than others thinking that they have a miserable life.
have a nice time,.
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
13 May 12
hi shitham I had a good and happy marriage even with lots of upsets beca use we loved, respected and trusted each other. we supported one other through some rough patches that often cause one or the other to leave the marriage. but if you love unconditionally you do not leave your loved one at all, you love more and support more, in sickness and in health.So I do feel sad that others turn on the husband or wife and walk away from the bad times. its not fair to the person you married but they do do this.But I will not feel
'guilty anymore as I do deserve to feel good about great memories in my widowhood.
@velvet53 (24417)
• Palisade, Colorado
13 May 12
There is no reason that you should feel anything but happy. You are one of few, well maybe many, that has had the pleasure of being in a happy marriage. Yes, some women and men are miserable in their marriage/relationship, but they know what needs to be done. I hate to say it but I have seen some marriages where the couples like to make the other miserable. So keep on being happy :)
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@louievill (28846)
• Philippines
13 May 12
I am happy for you and for all those cherished memories
. Well mine is still an ongoing process and it's still going strong but not without sacrifices from both of us to make it work, yes the children are a big part of it too.
. Well mine is still an ongoing process and it's still going strong but not without sacrifices from both of us to make it work, yes the children are a big part of it too.
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@ryanong (9664)
• Vietnam
13 May 12
No one's life looks like the others' life. So that when you can be happy with you marriage life, just enjoy it. We don't know what will happens in the future. The others women could be happy when did married in the beginning time but with the time, their marriage life becomes disaster...What should we do in these cases? we can do nothing, God will bless us all...
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
13 May 12
hi raynong no we can do nothing sometimes we can offer advice, but its still u p to them to try to make a marriage work, or give
up .We had our ups and downs but we did have each others support so that made a huge difference. now days people give up too soon while others keep on fighting and should have given up. we were mature when we married and I think as both of us had worked to support ourselves we had it e asier in makeing our marriage work.



@musicluv4life (1867)
• United States
13 May 12
I dont think its wrong for you to feel good, i think its great that you to have such a good relationship they you can help each other through everything and stay strong together.
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@musicluv4life (1867)
• United States
14 May 12
I am so sorry for your losses, My dad smoked for years and finnally quit. I wasnt born in 1991 haha but, i was in 1993 anyway I am sorry for your husbands smoking i know its a very hard thing to quit my dad tried many time before he quit and my gramother smokes she quit for about a year then my pap passed away from cancer and she stated agian and she hasnt quit since this was 9 years ago he passed. I keep trying to get her to quit all the time but, she just wont even try shes so stuborn i understand that though people wont quit unless they want to.:(
@lynboobsy11 (11343)
• Philippines
15 May 12
Hi ms.hatley,
Your so lucky to have a good marriage, there's nothing for you to feel sad about others who don't have a happy marriage or happy relationship with their partner. I choose to have a life like this i have two men in my life one, the father of Ann which is where i been married, and the father of my youngest where i also left after 15 years of being martyr. It teaches me to be strong and be a fighter. But still im too envy when i saw families that are bond together, husband and wife that walking together. It really hurts me inside, i know someday my question will be answer, i still don't know yet the answer for why i have to be unlucky that i don't have a good partner in life.

@dragon54u (31633)
• United States
12 May 12
You're not wrong at all. You should thank God that you were blessed with a happy marriage to a man who loved you.
A lot of us pick the wrong men, have unhappy marriages, divorce then pick another wrong one. I'm like that, I always fell in love with the wrong person for me. So I'm not doing it anymore because I don't like to be miserable. I think that a lot of us would be happier if we just knew when to give up on "love". I'm always happy to see couples that love each other, we need more of that in this world.
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@GreenMoo (11833)
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12 May 12
Hatley, you could never be wrong in being happy for a successful marriage. Recognise that you were lucky to find the man you could be happy with, perhaps, but never wrong to be happy.
I love to hear you talk about your husband and your married life. It gives me something to aspire to.
Perhaps others are not so lucky, and are miserable or dissatisfied with their relationships. I'm very sorry for them. All of us go through patches in relationships which are not so hot, but I think you come from a generation where working on them would come before giving up.
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@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
16 May 12
No, I don't think that you are wrong at all for being happy with your relationship that you were lucky enough to have with your husband. In my marriage, I will willingly admit that I've been happy for the most part, but I am going through a really rough patch right now and there are times that I feel like just giving up. However, I also know that I want to work on things that have gone astray because I believe in the sanctity of marriage and I want it to work.
Eventually, I think I'll be able to look at this time in my relationship as just being a huge bump in the road that we were able to overcome.
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@much2say (57760)
• Los Angeles, California
12 May 12
Hi Hatley!
You should definitely feel happy and fortunate for your past!! I feel I am in the same boat as you. My hubby and I have been together since our late teens - we've grown and developed this strong relationship throughout the years. Sure we had/have our ups and downs like everyone else, but we've always worked things out together - as couples, I thought, were supposed to do. We didn't get married til about 15 years into our relationship - not because we weren't sure - more because it made it "official" so things weren't in question when we started a family. Two kids later, we are still very happy - what can I say.
At the same time I think it's ok to sympathize with others who are not so happy nor fortunate. Besides the ones I read about in the discussions on myLot, I have personal friends who are in so-so marriages and relationships (or lack of it). I feel bad for such friends - and I really do. Hearing the history of the problems, I can often see where these problems stemmed from and possibly how it can be resolved . . . but I can only say so much. The fixing, if it's possible, is totally up to the couple - it's their issue and their marriage.
One friend put it this way. She heard enough of our mutual friend's blah blah blah complaints about the lack of happiness in her life . . . she said it was almost as if she was making us feel GUILTY for the happiness that we have in our lives. And should we feel guilty? Of course not. It's not that we're just "lucky" to have what we have . . . it's like you said - we WORK to keep a marriage happy and alive. I'm darn proud of it - and you should feel proud too!!
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
13 May 12
hi much2say when couples learn to be a team and support each other small complaints can be worked out and actually make the two grow
closer together. I can easily sympathize with others who are having
a rough time of it but hold on to my own happy memories.You can
offer suggestions but ultimately they still have to decide their own problems. so many refuse to even try to work on problems at all which is sad as we did and we survived nicely. also my husband had
a rich sense of humor and a happy disposition which always helped
a lot.Yes some keep complaining yet they refuse to try to work it
out so why should we be made to feel guilty for being happy?





@changjiangzhibin89 (17239)
• China
17 May 12
I don't think you are wrong and there is not a bit of feeling in which rejoice at others' misfortune in your discussion.I have read your discussions about your happy marriage many times.You were husband and wife that have gone through difficult times together.The topic of the marriage automatically takes your thoughts back to the days where you loved each other.Some have unhappy marriage,but they bottle it up .Maybe they are concerned about face saving or think domestic shame shouldn't be made public.
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