Fair's Fair...

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@twoey68 (13651)
United States
October 30, 2008 8:06pm CST
Ok, this came through Hubby's email this morning and I don't know if anyones heard about it but it's been bothering me. It seems that with Halloween right around the corner pranksters are in full swing. There was a Palin effigy hung by a noose in California "all in good fun" as one person stated. There was also an Obama effigy hung in Kentucky and Indiana, and it's being called a Hate Crime. So, why is one of Palin just good fun and ppl are amused by it, taking pics of it and it's no big deal but the one of Obama is being investigated and ppl are enraged by it. Isn't this double standards? Will anyone that speaks out against Obama or makes fun of him be accused of Hate Crimes? Here are the links: http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474977491302 http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/29/obama-effigies-strung-kentucky-indiana/ [b]~~IN SEARCH OF PEACE WITHIN~~ **AGAINST THE STORMS, I WILL STAND STRONG** [/b]
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@cupkitties (7053)
• United States
31 Oct 08
I think they are looking at the fact about the history of black people in hanging in America with Obama and they are looking at Palin as a white person. They forget there are probably a bunch of woman haters out there who do not want a woman in office.
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@DonnaLawson (4032)
• United States
31 Oct 08
There is a double standard in the world, and it is practised more than it needs to be.. It is wrong on both counts but no more on one than on the other.. It is nor worse to hang Obama than to hang Palin.. I do not like unfairness and get so tired of people crying over circumstances that are so wrong and out of touch with reality.. Sounds to me like it is hate on both counts, but then again, that is just my opinion, things are not always equal in this world,,
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@Hatley (164670)
• Garden Grove, California
31 Oct 08
[/u]twoey hi I feel that both of these are hate crimes and should be treated that way. this election has turned rational people into spiteful hate mongers. both sides are to blame, neither one is exempt and we have the same thing here on mylot, you say you voted one way and suddenly people are trying to [u]straighten you out and call you names, and say you are stupid to vote the way you did.America is still a free country and news to all you mylotters that are spewing hate we all have the right to vote for whome we choose
@ANTIQUELADY (36489)
• United States
31 Oct 08
it's just a mess. they arrested a guy that is from a small towm not very far from my town that was planning to kill obama. i am afraid somebody will. i think he's in harm's way. i hope i'm wrong. i don't like racism about anybody. people carry meaness way too far nowadays.look at jennife hudson's family, just wiped out. the little caylee that they can not find. it's all scary to me.
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@redkathy (3375)
• United States
31 Oct 08
Either way we are in big trouble. Riots if he losses and possible assassinations if he wins.
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@ANTIQUELADY (36489)
• United States
31 Oct 08
as i said we are in a mess!!
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@redkathy (3375)
• United States
31 Oct 08
Their defense is the "hate crime" law. From what I have read and heard that hate crimes are only considered hate crimes when they are committed against minorities. So that means if both of my sons were murdered and hung from a tree in the yard side by side, one would be a hate crime and the other wouldn't. HYPOCRITES AND RACISTS!!!!
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• United States
31 Oct 08
And yet, women are supposed to be minorities, aren't they?
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@redkathy (3375)
• United States
31 Oct 08
Not in the case of hate crimes, I don't think.
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• United States
31 Oct 08
I saw that! And, I agree with you. We are no suppose to be racist yet if we hang one and he's black we are racist. But, if we hang the other she is white we are not. So, would we be investigating her's if she was black. And, would we just consider it all in good fun if he was white? Go figure! Are we racist or not?
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@Barb42 (4217)
• United States
31 Oct 08
We knew it was coming, didn't we? There was a woman on the Gretawire forum other night that got really upset because of the effigy of Palin there in CA. She told her son she'd like to hang up one of Obama, but he told her she couldn't do that. He meant she'd get in trouble. Yet, these guys there are getting away with it as a "Halloween prank". Sure! Double standards that are going to be prevalent when he becomes president. We can just look for it. Just like Joe the Plumber being gone after and vetted, although he only asked a question. Obama hasn't even been held to those standards!
@BarBaraPrz (19635)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
31 Oct 08
You're right... it is a double standard. Hanging anyone in effigy is a hate crime (who goes around hanging people they like?). Don't know why someone didn't label the Palin one a crime against women... It's the same with religion... you can say anything against Christians and no one gives a hoot but say something against Muslims and all hell breaks loose.
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@Nahsik (205)
• India
31 Oct 08
Well your topic of discussion is truly great!!I agree and would like to wait for others opinions too on this discussion
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@samijo719 (1054)
• United States
31 Oct 08
I think that it's wrong and is a double standard. And I think it has everything to do with race and it's sad. People want to be treated as equals but aren't treating others as equals. Weather a person is black, white, male, female, old or young it's not a funyn joke. To joke about someone being hung or dying is in very bad/poor taste and I think bother matters should have been treated the same. They are both human beings after all.
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@walijo2008 (4648)
• United States
31 Oct 08
I'm just about tired of all this going on, people saying this and that about each other, and doing things like what you mentioned in your discussion, I know some people will call it a hate crime, maybe it is, I don't know. I'm just ready to get this election over with, and get on with our lives, we'll just all have to live with the outcome of it, but I'll be glad to have it over with...
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@camomom (7537)
• United States
31 Oct 08
In my opinion they are both Hate crimes and should be treated as such. They are both wrong.
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@jillmalitz (5132)
• United States
31 Oct 08
I saw that too. It did seem to smack of a double standard. Maybe people are bending over backwards to try to insure "political correctness". I did think that Sara Palin made an interesting statement about people commenting on her clothes but not saying anything about the mens suits. Of course what are the men supposed to wear?
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@Lakota12 (42684)
• United States
31 Oct 08
It shouldnt matter if one is hanging the other should hang too. and he takes offence of every thing look at the fit he thru from Joe The plummer for asking a simple question!
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• United States
31 Oct 08
Well, honestly, I don't think that either of these are "good fun". I hope that it doen't turn out that way. I have faith in Obama, I believe that he is a fair man .
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• United States
31 Oct 08
I have seen quite a few TV shows which address this idiotic Halloween decoration. The two young men responsible for it have since removed it. Most people interviewed said was tasteless but if it had been an effigy of Obama it would have been really dangerous going so far as to cause race riots.
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@mariposaman (2967)
• Canada
31 Oct 08
Yes it is a double standard. Halloween was supposed to be about spirits and goblins and not about dismemberment and violence. Unfortunately the Halloween holiday seems to give license to some people to display their unsavory side. Unfortunately it seems in America everything is tainted by race and America has an unenviable history of race relations particularly where it cocerns whites and blacks. People generally operate under the illusions that if you are not white you cannot be racist which could not be further from the truth. This makes hate crime only enforceable against whites when if you have a law it should be equally enforced. If you are a minority and you hate other minorities or even the race of the majority and commit a crime based on that hate the law should equally apply. This is another double standard that goes unacknowledged.
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@catdla1 (6005)
• United States
31 Oct 08
Both events should be looked at as hate crimes. There's nothing funny about either one. Unfortunately, society rightly or wrongly are just used to jokes about women. Look at all the blonde jokes. I like to think that there are more women jokes because we are stong enough to tolerate them. But violent jokes are in bad taste, no matter who says them, or who they are about.
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@sid556 (31006)
• United States
31 Oct 08
I'm not really sure but it could have something to do with the fact that Obama's life has already been threatened more than once. I don't think McCain or Palin have had any threats. Also maybe in talking to the person or persons responsible for the decorations, they may have sensed a bit more than "just fun" and decided to investigate further.
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@tammytwo (4304)
• United States
31 Oct 08
Double standards for sure. I recall a time when women were considered a minority as well. So this isn't considered a hate crime against a minority when it is just a woman????
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