War between US Allies and Iran

On your scale of 1-10, I would say a definite 10.

The treatment of its own people is becoming transparent. Iran is also being threatened within itself. Victims will only sit by for so long before they begin to fight back. Eyes are being opened.

With respect, Iran does not 'mock' the world but a couple of victors of WWII who enjoy permanent membership of the UN. Iran only speaks of truths which the US and her allies are reluctant to hear and the very notion that Iran can consider standing up for its values is seen by the US as bigotry. As you rightly point out, China and Russia do not see American foreign stance in the same light and are strong trading partners. And Iran knows it is the last survivor of the Arab world which American imperialism has not controlled. Iraq dared to challenge the West, look at its fate. The Saudi's are in American pockets as are Jordan and Egypt. Syria does not acknowledge Israel largely because it wants the Golan heights back and is called by GWB an 'axis of evil'. Go figure. It is those who stand up to the West which are threatened by the West.

Or, the US could stop being so arrogant and touchy because Iran through out the US puppet regime of the Shah. Iran does not trust the US and does not agree with its foreign policy. It does not believe unequivable support to Israel is fair and necessary. It sees the invasion of Iraq as 'double standards' whilst allowing the suffering of Palestinians under occupation to continue, but go for an oil rich province to kick an 'agressor' out. Iran talks about trade, the US does not play fair, so it trades with China, Russia and othern Eastern countries. Iran has been clever in that it has, unlike other Arab nations, not courted the US for help. For it knows that its fate will be sealed as that of Saddam Hussein. The reason why Iran hasn't been attacked yet - Afghanistan and Iraq have drained the American will, and unlike Iraq and Afghanistan, there are fewer disloyal commanders who will be bribed and give up intelligence to the CIA. The Americans are struggling to strategically map out Iran for military operations. But then again, with GWB, he may have found a way to attack and his scale from 1-10 probably was 8. But with Obama it is more like 2 or 3.

I can see that outcome. What do you think will change in the world with a nuclear Iran?

I see things getting bad in the region. Israel will be freaking out. Which they should. Iran has threatened to wipe them off the map. So I see the big problems betweent the two. Nations will pick sides. So one of two things will happen....Iran will nuke Israel....who will probly nuke them right back. The rest of the world would watch in horror and the UN might invade Iran over it. But to be honest I think the UN or the US would simple condemn the actions and then do more sactions. Sad but true. Or Iran will use the fact that it has nukes to make itself taken more seriously in the world. Iran wants to be a world player and leader. THey think by getting nukes and having the simple threat of using them that it will make them one of big boys on the block. To me that is what I see from Iran. They want to be a world player and taken seriously. They seem to think nukes is the way to accomplish it. kinda of a "don't mess with me or I will nuke you" kind of thing.

Yeah, when I reread the title, I noticed I should have said, "The US and its Allies". I was trying to include the allies in the equation, since the allies would most likely become part of it sooner or later anyway.

That depends on if other Muslim nations consider a nuclear Iran a threat or an asset to their own security. In the end, it comes down to which outcome the leaders of the nations consider best for themselves. Do you really think the US is the instigator here? Do you consider Iran responsible for any of it?

So the US will round up the usual crew, but who do you expect to stand beside Iran? Do you think it will be a case of Muslim states following or keeping their distance from the mullahs.?

Iraq might not be of much help with direct military support, but being able to stage in Iraq would be far greater help.

Iran has a leader that denies the holocaust and has vowed to blow Iran off the map... Tell me again about the "sense of what might be the consequences?" During the election, a lot of Obama supporters said that he would have the charisma to talk the enemies of the US out of being against us. Obama also thought he could sweet talk Congress into doing his bidding.

ted, out of context again, actual quote: 'but is not as if the countries have lost ALL senses of what MIGHT be the consequences of their actions.' Your quote : 'sense of what might be the consequences'. You seem to this alot Ted, paraphrasing to legitimise your stance. I mean 'lost all sense' and 'not as if' are fundamental parts of the poster is saying, yet you choose to omit it in your question. I rest my case because Ahmadinijad actually said 'due to the suffering Israel has inflicted in the region and problem it creates, Israel SHOULD be taken off the map...'. He also has said that Israel removal off the map does not constitute any kind of confrontation, but a reference to the politcal map and the plight of the 1.5million refugees and the suffering of Palestinian life.

And I would argue that the US get rid of its nuclear arsenal as well - for the same reasons as Iran should not have them.