People are abusive here =P

@mommyboo (13198)
United States
February 22, 2012 5:19pm CST
Here we go again, people being jerks using the negative rating button simply because they don't agree. Come on out, wherever you are! Fess up! I am pretty sure I know who you are but you're cowards and are going to pretend you didn't do anything, aren't you? Just so you know - even though I know who you are, I DO NOT RATE YOU NEGATIVELY, and I don't call you names, and I don't call you wrong. Let's see if any of you have an ounce of maturity. I sure wish the powers that be here would disallow folks from negative rating for obvious stupid and petty reasons or simply remove the negative button entirely. There is so LITTLE actual usage for it in proper terms.
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@owlwings (39229)
• Cambridge, England
22 Feb 12
Hmmm ... "jerks" and "cowards" and you are not calling people names? "myLot has taken precautions to significantly minimize the impact of rogue users harming your myLot reputation by repeatedly rating you negatively. In fact, this kind of behavior will only harm the user who does the inappropriate negative rating. To be clear, it is impossible for one rogue user to significantly damage the myLot reputation of another user." http://www.mylot.com/o/faq/faq11.aspx#5 If you suspect that a particular user (or users) is abusing the rating system, then the correct thing to do is to send a PM with your suspicions and accusations to GoAskAlice. Only he is able to confirm or deny your suspicions and do anything about it.
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@mommyboo (13198)
• United States
24 Feb 12
'jerk' and 'coward' are normal words in any dictionary. Are you telling me they aren't? Also, I don't go about 'reporting' people either, as I think that is cowardly behavior as well as attempting to get people's posts removed 'because you don't like them'. Yes, it is probably impossible for ONE rogue user to damage someone's reputation but that doesn't mean a little group of people consistently going about rating someone down based on one thing they disagreed with isn't. There's no other way to explain a significant drop in a specific topic over a week's time lol.
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@andy77e (5165)
• United States
23 Feb 12
Some people are jerks. That's life. As for getting a negative rating, I would advise you to largely ignore that. Besides they have a right to negatively rate someone for any reason they want. I once gave someone a negative rating simply because of their name. *shrug* Shouldn't I be able to give a negative review for any reason? If I don't like Brad Pit, I can write a review of him that he's awful. Girl, don't let the haters get to you. They way you overcome the haters, is not by trying to muzzle them, but rather by ignoring and moving forward regardless of them. It's the best way :)
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@mommyboo (13198)
• United States
24 Feb 12
Besides they have a right to negatively rate someone for any reason they want. The ToS states otherwise. You are not supposed to be willy nilly rating whatever you want based on whether you agree or like someone's name or don't like someone's name or they posted about something you hated. Yes, I posted this in the hopes I would see what other people had to say about this but it was really more of a call out to the people who actually DO this kind of thing - negatively rate people just because they disagree or like you said - because you think anybody has the right to negatively rate anybody they want for any reason they want. The thing is - the ToS DOES state otherwise. I suppose you could interpret it to mean you can do whatever you want but it's clearly disrespectful to others and NOT contributing to quality discussions here. I'm not like some people. I'll call out a hater - virtually, face to face, whatever. It solves the problem quicker than ignoring it and lets them know you know and you're eventually going to do something about it.
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@andy77e (5165)
• United States
24 Feb 12
I suppose I've never bothered to check the ToS. Perhaps it does say that :) So, do you really think you can stop people from giving negative reviews?
• Philippines
25 Feb 12
It's not the matter of stopping negative review or ratings. It's a mater of abuse. People have different views about things and some are curious and brae enough to ask and discuss those things with other people. what mylot gives us is the freedom to express ourselves. However, the negation rating system proves that you can get back at people without even given a good point for rating them negatively. The rating should only be used for the protection of mylot community. But it doesn't happen all the time. If you feel to disagree with someone over a certain topic, it's better to join the discussion and talk about it. Not just rate negatively because you feel and think that the topic starter have anything personal against you or anyone.
@bhonti (1247)
• Philippines
23 Feb 12
I have not been affected by a negative rating. Not that I'm aware of. I just hope the admin will remove the negative button, or at least find a way to determine if the negative ratings are legit or only out of personal reasons.
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@mommyboo (13198)
• United States
24 Feb 12
It would be nice to just remove it... stop tempting the people who hit it due to disagreements. If they do it once, they'll do it 100 times and they don't care who they wreak havoc with. Very few negative ratings are actually legit for the reasons the ToS state they should be given.
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@beamer88 (4268)
• Philippines
23 Feb 12
I myself had wondered why people do these kinds of things. I mean, I think we all know that we come from different parts of the world, have our own sets of beliefs and opinions, have different ways of expressing ourselves. It's really a given when you join any fora, be it a local or an international one. And you just don't give a negative rating just because the other person disagreed with you. I for one like it when people disagree with my topic. It makes for a good discussion. I mean, if everyone agrees with what I posted, the discussion ends there.
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@mommyboo (13198)
• United States
24 Feb 12
Yes, controversial discussions and random various opinions make for GREAT discussions! I am pretty active in some hot button topics like politics and religion as well as large ones like 'life' 'parenting' and 'relationships'. I don't know what kind of sick joy some people get from doing things like this, it must benefit them SOME way or they wouldn't keep doing it lol. You're right too... it makes NO sense to give someone else a negative rating because you don't agree. Someone else tried to say 'maybe the discussion is not good'. If it garners a LOT of responses and multiple comments under each one and there are a variety of opinions, then yes, it is a good quality discussion and it contributes positively to the environment here, regardless of the difference of opinion. That's what people should remember here! The big picture, not 'hmmm... i disagree with you, I don't like you, I'm going to rate you down'.
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
22 Feb 12
hi mommyboo several others have complained too.I just think anyone who deliberately hits the minus key should know that if they d o this too much more mylot admins will notice and it will destroy their own rating here. we were warned in the guideline never to minus someone just because they did not agree with your opinions. I rarely ever minus anyone as if the post is bad for breaking rules or flaming then one should report it. otherwise I either plus them or if I am undecided I just bypass it. otherwise I do plus everyone.
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@mommyboo (13198)
• United States
24 Feb 12
I never negative people unless the post they make is completely and totally off topic, not in english, or defamatory and offensive towards not just me but anybody who comments... or if they are trolling and stealing things like avatars or pretending to be someone they aren't to gather information and annoy users. It's just frustrating to see so many people who still have TIME to be petty monsters.
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@duke1000 (101)
• United States
22 Feb 12
Sounds to me like you take things very personal. I mean If your discussion is not good why should someone give you a + rating. They have the rating system was in place for people to rate each other if I am not mistaken. Sure it makes an interesting topic and you'll probably get a mix of emotions but that is all part of the freedom of the site. I don't think it is exactly right and I'm not condoning anyone actions but at the same time I am not going to complain because some one acted immature I will simply turn my cheek and continue on as normal. The way I see it If someone doesn't agree with what you right a person has the right to rate negative. This site has given that freedom for everyone and there is no reason that it should be taken away.
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• Grand Junction, Colorado
23 Feb 12
The way I see it If someone doesn't agree with what you right a person has the right to rate negative. I just want to make a correction to your statement, mylot specifically tells us to NOT rate negative just because someone has a difference of opinion here. http://www.mylot.com/o/faq/faq17.aspx#3 What if I disagree with someone? Should I give that post a negative rating? Absolutely not! In fact, if you disagree with a post, but still feel it positively contributes to the discussion, you should rate it positively. Rating quality content negatively will hurt your ratings overall. Remember differing opinions and viewpoints tend to make for the most interesting discussions.
@duke1000 (101)
• United States
23 Feb 12
Okay all this does is create more for me to say... So If i don't agree with the post I should just let it fly but if I feel that it does not contribute I should mark it negative? That could be thousands of posts in here. But of course that is a FAQ and not a TOS. What I want to know is with the next post it clearly states that they will not post results so how can someone honestly say that someone is marking negative on them? It might be that their posts just aren't that good unless I am wrong there too??
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• Grand Junction, Colorado
23 Feb 12
So If i don't agree with the post I should just let it fly Yep, just let it go. You could give your opinion on the subject either in a comment to a response that has been provided that you don't agree with or you could leave a response. You should however not rate it negatively just because you don't agree with it. if I feel that it does not contribute I should mark it negative Yes, although this has been debated a little here too. Basically I would say that comments that make absolutely no sense in a discussion would qualify. Much more difficult to say with a discussion. I look for several things, and most would point to if it violates the guidelines then it could be marked negatively. I have no idea how people look at that FAQ, obviously looking around the board and some of the stars here, more people rate negatively, than actually admit to. I agree that it's really impossible to know who's marking you negatively. I think what happens is that someone is rude to another because of an opinion and the discussion gets heated, while the two that are going back and forth others are reading and may be marking one or both negatively, they each in turn think it's coming from the other guy. Mylot states that one rogue user can't cause that kind of damage, so unless members have little posse that they call into play it's simply the mylot community marking negative for behavior, not for opinions. That's my thoughts. Of course there's also the possibility that members who have read the guidelines are marking negatively because they don't agree with the opinions of others.
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@Mashnn (4503)
23 Feb 12
This is going too far. I do not understand why someone could rate the other person negative just because you disagree with whatever he/she has said. Why do some members here in Mylot have problem accepting that people opinions are difference. It just really annoying. I am very opinionated person and if that is what happens here in Mylot, then I wonder how many negative ratings I have received.
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@mommyboo (13198)
• United States
24 Feb 12
Yes... it IS annoying, isn't it? I don't understand it either, yet it happens. Some people have no scruples, no conscience and don't care if they use personal reasons to screw over someone else. However, the ToS states people should not do this. It is my sincere hope that people who do this often eventually get tossed out of this site for being petty useless users who contribute nothing here. Nobody can provide me any proof that rating people negatively contributes in a positive way to the atmosphere at mylot
@Mashnn (4503)
25 Feb 12
I too hope such type of people will be banned from Mylot. Otherwise, rating someone negative just because of different opinion, is the most immature thing any person can do.
@maezee (32269)
• United States
23 Feb 12
How do you know someone negatively rated you? I mean there's no real way to tell when people do this - is there? Can you really say that it happened during one discussion, because you disagreed with someone? Maybe it was another discussion that you responded to and someone didn't think it was quality work or whatever. *shrugs*. I don't think they should have a negative rating system. I think it should be positive and that's it, and maybe we could excel to a higher score if we got however many positive ratings. Or something. Anyway, I wouldn't let it get to you. It's only a silly star.
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@tipay26 (873)
• Philippines
23 Feb 12
I agree with you too how would a discussion starter know if he/she is rated negatively? To tell you honestly I seldom use those buttons.Why? sometimes I forget to rate and that is because I am enjoying participating to discussions.
@mommyboo (13198)
• United States
24 Feb 12
Yes - if you look at your rating number within a specific topic, say you are 259 out of 584. If someone rates you negatively, especially consistently, you may notice a few days later that now you are 303 out of 584. It takes longer for you to lose your star rating but the other rating is quick. I don't think there should be a negative option either, because it DOES get abused, and generally by the same people, either ones who just get off on it, or users who haven't read the ToS or THINK it's okay to negatively rate due to difference of opinion or 'not liking what you said'. Not liking what someone said doesn't equal 'not quality response or discussion'.
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@sjvg1976 (18386)
• Delhi, India
23 Feb 12
Hello mommyboo, I never play with DRS system i know ratings do effect someone's reputation.I just leave a response as it is if i feel that response does not effect a discussion +vely or -vely and i think this is the right way. Some people do rate - vely to others when they feel they don't like the response they must understand that rating is nothing to do with liking or disliking.I never got worried for my reputation though i know we cannot make millions of people here understand when they should or should not rate -vely.
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@mommyboo (13198)
• United States
24 Feb 12
If the ToS states people will get banned for rating down because they disagree AND THEY ACTUALLY GOT REMOVED AND BANNED, then perhaps it would stop happening. It is annoying to have the ToS state 'it is not appropriate nor acceptable to rate someone else negatively simply because you don't agree with their viewpoint or like what they have to say' and then when someone DOES do that, to NOT have them reprimanded with removal from the site. We just need a few people made examples of and then I guarantee it would happen less.
@shaggin (36845)
• United States
23 Feb 12
Just because you do not agree with someone does not mean that the discussion should be rated negative. You are exactly right about that. Everyone has the right to their opinion. When there is a double post (even my own) I report it so the second post that is a double will be removed. If someone is harrassing someone or name calling I report that. It is rare though I think I have only seen this one time and I know other people reported it to and that discussion was removed. It was a fine discussion but a few rude people started flaming so the hole discussion got removed.
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@mommyboo (13198)
• United States
24 Feb 12
When people get into a flame war I think maybe it IS justified to freeze the discussion so no more fire can be added lol.
• United States
23 Feb 12
She did it!
@mommyboo (13198)
• United States
24 Feb 12
lol!
@ecaron (678)
• Canada
23 Feb 12
I'm sorry you are so upset, maybe you should report these people, I know I wouldn't like negative ratings or abusive language either, I want to be friends and have a place to discuss things and have fun not worry about people being mean and rude. Perhaps you could report these bad people.
@mommyboo (13198)
• United States
24 Feb 12
Reporting specific people whom I suspect would be just as petty and rotten as those people 'namelessly' rating me down lol. I don't want to report them, that's sinking to their level. I want THEM to grow up or get caught by admin abusing the ToS and not following it. I don't put up with tattling from the kids, and I don't tattle. I'll point a finger at you though if I caught you stealing cookies
• United States
23 Feb 12
Why am I not surprised? So things never do change, huh? I have never liked the whole rating system! I dont really care who rates me what
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@mommyboo (13198)
• United States
24 Feb 12
Yep. Get rid of one, two more show up. We need another planet to ship people.
@sid556 (31005)
• United States
30 Mar 12
I agree 100%. There is no need at all for that neg button. At least if you report it, you have to give a reason and they have to check it out and decide if it is reportable. With all the complaints, I don't know why they haven't done so yet.
• Philippines
25 Feb 12
been there for a couple of times. The only thing I hate is picking up the pieces after somebody did that to me. It's like somebody attacked me without knowing. It's very disheartening to see that somebody did that. It questions my commitment here despite the enjoyment and the freedom this site brings. It takes a while for me to recover and it also takes a lot of courage to get back and appreciate again. I hate to be out but I also feel that i should step and thread cautiously or else I'll be suffering the same scenario all over again. I agree on you on many terms but in the meantime, we have to live with it. which makes it so frustrating to say the least.
• Marikina, Philippines
25 Feb 12
First, it is very difficult to have a negative button because there is a possibility that members would abuse it. Second, it is also very difficult to trace a person who did the negative rating. It is difficult to know what they like. We do not know if they rate you negatively just because either of you have different opinions or they have other reasons. It is difficult to determine. It is better to ignore them or you will just suffer at the end.