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Some years ago, during a tough period in my marriage, my wife threw her wedding ring down the toilet and flushed it away. She immediately regretted it and I pulled up the drains looking for it but never found it. I bought her a new one but its always bothered me. To me that new ring is just a ring, the marriage ring, the one that was blessed in church has been flushed down the toilet. It was so nearly the case that the whole marriage followed it but we pulled through. I certainly didn't conduct myself well that night but I felt so betrayed, especially as I had done nothing in my eyes deserving of such a gesture. We are happily married still but this thing stays on my mind and is a raw nerve. I do not wear my wedding ring any more and I dont think I ever look at hers. I say I forgive, but inside I think I must not really forgive because I still am holding on to this and resenting it, feeling betrayed and hurt and refusing to get over it. I know it isn't really possible to forget but how can I truely forgive and what does it mean that the memory does not fade for me?
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1. Nykkee (1425) | 2 years ago | I think it just means that the event really hurt you. Time does not heal all wounds. You can't expect it to just go away. But it's not worth giving up on your marriage either. I think what you should do is renew your vows. Have a second marraige ceremony on your anniversary and have the rings that you have now blessed, and makes your promises to one another again. Basically start over. Maybe then you will be able to let it go and not feel mad about it everyday.
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Norfolk_Jim (104) | 2 years ago | Yeah, thats a good suggestion and a very good answer.
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book1962 (14769) | 2 years ago | Nykkee thats a lovely idea and the best answer anyone could give. I think I can understand your anger and frustration that comes up all the time as this was such a hurt and rejection. I am married as well and as angry as we may get but throwing away the ring is out of the question.
By the way I had a similar experience. As we had met online and later in person we wrote tons of e mails. One day when my then fiance was mad ad me he cleared his computer and threw out all his and mine e mails. I have to add that in the first year of our relationship I didnt have a computer of my own and only went to internet cafes to write to him. And when I had a laptop I had asked him to save both our mails further on what he had done from the beginning, so later I could print them, put them into the right order and have them bound as a book just for us to have. And he threw out the mails although the relationship was still existing and we only had had a quarrel........
When I learned what he had done it also was a big crack in our relationship like a crack in a mug which is not broken completely but damaged. So I think I can relate to you quite well.
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sid556 (10900) | 2 years ago | oops...i responded before reading the responses....gave somewhat the same advice. Sorry I wasn't trying to copy.
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kalav56 (1949) | 2 years ago | I too thought of the same response that NYKEE had written. The moral of the story is that as long as you are happy but still have this hurt betrayal lurking somewhere within and are sentimental about the vows in church, it isbetter to get the ceremony done again. You can vow to each other that such a thing would never happen again.
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Norfolk_Jim (104) | 2 years ago | It it indeed a good response, I think Nykkee might be getting the best response award - I dont fully understand that bit of mylot yet though, I'm not sure how long the originalm poster should wait before selecting a best response?
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2. flowerchilde (6827) | 2 years ago | ..I think it's because she hurt you.. also that it's possible it opened up a past wound..? I think that happens a lot.. and is really quite common.. - I was estranged from my (birth) family for 15 years.. I had a terrible childhood.. along with my siblings. The only way I could forgive.. well, actually I couldn't forgive, but I happened to be one of those people who when they found Jesus, needed him in a bad way, having lots of holes and wounds in me which only he can fill and heal.. along with that (along with Him) came the ability to forgive, and now I love my parents with a very tender and protective love and have for many years.. Which most people, if I share my history, can't believe it! :)
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Norfolk_Jim (104) | 2 years ago | Yes, it did hurt, and as someone who did find Jesus, or rather was found by Jesus, forgiveness is important to me and it troubles me that even after a fair few years now this is still a painful memory for me and comes into my thoughts more than I would like it to. Sometimes I wish I could just laugh at it, it would be almost funny if it was in a TV comedy, but instead it hurts. Its an interesting point you make about opening up a past would. Really there are only two memories like this one that still trouble me. The other was when my mother beat me with a stick. She only beat me once ever but I just came home and she started asking me all sorts of strange questions I couln't answer. When I didn't give her the answers she wanted she beat me and beat me. I've never forgotten that and although I forgave her and forgive her the memory still haunts me. In the same way the memory of that night still haunts me. I think because it was a tough time in general, my emotions were already high, but then the symbolism of the act, I'd have thought I could let it go by now. I want to, because we still love each other. I dont throw it back at her. I guess we can forgive but not necesssarily forget.
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3. plainhousewife (212) | 2 years ago | When my husband and I were to be wed, the rings that we originally wanted had to be ordered and wouldn't make it in time for our wedding day. The store owner was kind enough to actually allow us to borrow the rings we wanted and just give it back when the wedding rings we would order arrived.
We opted to choose other rings instead.
I just didn't like the idea of exchanging rings, having the rings blessed and using rings on our wedding day that we'd eventually return once our order came in.
I guess people give a lot of importance to their wedding rings. It's mainly because of sentimental reasons. It can never be replaced even if it's an exact replica of it.
In your case, since there's no way to get back the original wedding ring like you would want to, a renewal of vows does sound good.
Renewal of vows, new rings and an existing love to continue throughout the years. Hopefully then, you'll learn to let go of the past and learn to forgive and forget.:)
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Norfolk_Jim (104) | 2 years ago | I know its a little off topic but thats a good story. Have you ever thought of submitting it to someone like Readers Digest? I think its the kind of story that would catch peoples attention and make them think. Thanks for sharing that, I appreciate it.
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4. barehugs (3983) | 2 years ago | I've been married 52 years to the same woman! I never had a wedding ring, and never missed it. My wife is a nurse, and because rings are unsanitary in a hospital setting she took her ring off, and has never worn it since. We were married in a Church, but that is not important in our lives.We raised 4 good boys and now have 4 Grandchildren. Life has been Great, and we are very Thankful for our Blessings. Your story touched me! But I'm wondering if you are putting too much emphases on the mundane, (rings) and not enough on your Blessings. Are you worried that God misses the ring that was blessed in Church? God is Love, and love is not gold or silver. Count your blessings (not your rings) and Be Thankful!
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Norfolk_Jim (104) | 2 years ago | Maybe, the wedding ring has always been an important symbol to me, a reminder of my vow and also of some religious significance to me. We do indeed have many blessings and I think it would be way better if I was able to let this go, even laugh at it. Theres sure are a lot of good suggestions on here, plenty of wise experienced folk here at mylot. I think that following some of this advice here is going to help.
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5. lovespecialangel (2839) | 2 years ago | This incident happened some years ago? Don't get me wrong, throwing the wedding ring down the toilet was a horrible thing for your wife to do; but you said it yourself, she was immediately regretful of the action. I know nothing will replace the original ring, but is the ring what really shows the love you have for each other? All the ring is for, really, is to let others know that you are no longer available. If this issue is still causing problems then you and your wife never got past that incident. Do you truly love your wife? Or are you going to let something as material as a ring ruin your marriage? I'm not trying to be mean, so please don't take it as such. I'm just saying that the ring isn't the reason you love your wife. The ring is nothing more that a material item. Love comes from the heart, not a ring.
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Norfolk_Jim (104) | 2 years ago | No, Lovespecialangel, this isnt going to ruin our marriage, no worries there, I just think that I should be able to let this go by now. Have you ever had something come back to trouble you, some memory, that you just cant seem to get rid of though you want it to go away. I think my wife got over this time but it still troubles me, and I think it shouldn't any more. If I forgive, I tend to think the memory will dull and not hurt so much, that it still does hurt makes me think that maybe I've not managed to forgive still - hence the title of my discussion. Theres some great advice being put forward here. I'm glad I posted this because I think it will help and some of the stories are really insiteful. I dont think its so much the material nature of the ring as the symbolism of it and its demise that hurts. If it had just been thrown away in the heat of the moment, then we couldnt find it, that perhaps would not be such a pain. Putting it down the pan was maybe symbolic of how she felt about me at that time. Yet, while I'm a long way from being perfect, a long, long way, I didn't think I'd been such a bad husband. I've been faithful to my wife all our lives and cared for her through years of illness. but I digress...thanks for taking the time to respond.
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lovespecialangel (2839) | 2 years ago | I'm glad to hear that this isn't going to be something that ruins your marriage! I understand more where you are coming from now. Before my husband and I were married (we were engaged), he almost cheated on me with one of my friends. It took me a while to forgive him for what he had done, but I have. The memory is still there and will always be there, and it's still painful. Unfortunately those memories don't go away. I think what your wife did was a heat of the moment thing. Unfortunately when us women get mad like that we don't think about what we say or do until it's too late. I'm sure your wife hasn't forgotten about that moment and it's probably still painful to her as well. I wish I could tell you something that will help make the memory go away, but I haven't mastered that yet. All I can say is to try to focus more on the good that is between you two. Best wishes to you both!
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| 6. Inzy4jonny (27) | 2 years ago | Forgiving and forgetting is solely and entirely up to you, Norfolk_Jim,. I know it was hard to see that ring just go dowan the toilet, but the love, happiness and joy you and your wife shared over the years has not been flushed down the toilet....your marriage is there even though the ring isn't. I've learnt that the ring is just a symbol of a neverending love that joined two people together, wanting to pass their lives with each other no matter the hurdles that come their way. From what you are saying...you still possess deep feelings for your wife, you still love her, and the only thing i see wrong is that you're hurt over what she did, but you want to move on because you're talking it over with your family at mylot..which is good...i respect men that talk over their feelings...esp with their wives(these are marriages that last). As you still love her, talk to her about it, reeally explain as best as you could how you really feel and what it is doing to you now, even if she doesn't understand completely...she will one day...and your gonna feel much better that you have explained how that episode affected and still affects you today. You can forgive and forget...it's up to you my friend...don't let something like this ruin your love you have developed over the years...we're here to help and listen...take care and be safe!!!
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Norfolk_Jim (104) | 2 years ago | Thanks for that compassionate response. Its always been my aim that my marriage should last. My folks split up in my early teens and it was a traumatic time for me. I determined then that I'd do my very best to be a good husband and have a lifelong marriage (I know its not always possible, please dont anyone take offence)with its ups and downs. We've had a number of very traumatic experiences in our marriage and I've managed to come through those and not be revisited by them. This one still haunts me and as I've said elsewhere makes me question if I have indeed forgiven and ask why its hard, not perhaps to utterly forget, I doubt that happens, but at least for the memory to fade a little or to lose its sting. But I've got some good ideas from the replies. We still have a strong marriage and my wife is one of my greatest joys in life. I dont want that to be spoiled by unforgiveness and it maybe spilling out in an argument. This idea about words never hurting you is so wrong, words can burn you forever and guarding my mouth isnt my greatest ability. Hence the desire to not harbour such things.
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| 7. pogoaddict (62) | 2 years ago | I think at some time or another, we've all wanted to do the same thing, but most of us just didn't have the nerve. What's most important is that your marriage is still "there", even though the ring isn't. My husband and I neither one has the same ring we got married with, we both gained weight in our fingers, ha ha, and rather than have them stretched we just bought new ones.
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Norfolk_Jim (104) | 2 years ago | Do you still have the originals? Yes, we too have gained a little around our fingers. My ring sits in a cupboard. Someday I mean to put it back on, but I never do. Maybe I should buy a new one and take up some of that earlier advice given here, we could both have new rings.
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8. sid556 (10900) | 2 years ago | It is not good for either of you or your marriage that you still hold a grudge about this. You say that you love her and besides this are happy together. How about renewing your vows and getting the new ring blessed in the church? You pulled through a tough time together and that is something to be proud of. I say, marry her all over again.
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Norfolk_Jim (104) | 2 years ago | I saw your response further up the board - they say great minds think alike! This advice seems good to me, I think it could be the way to go. Maybe even a second honeymoon, I've heard people say that gave their marriage a new lease of life.
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9. gemini_rose (10153) | 2 years ago | A wedding ring is precious, its blessed and you give them to each other on the day that you declare your love for each other in front of everyone who knows you and to some people that ring signifies everything, and when someone can disregard it and all that it means and represents in a heartbeat it is just crushing. I am still married but something happened in my marriage to break the special bond and blessing of my ring and from the day it happened I took it off and have never put it back on since because to me everything it stood for and signified was broken. I too cant forget it and maybe never fully forgive, he bought me another one to try and mend the damage, but it wasnt blessed and so it wasnt the same, I wear it but it has no real meaning like the first one. Im not sure that the memory will totally fade.
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Norfolk_Jim (104) | 2 years ago | ah, I see we are both reading from the same page. My wedding day was one of, if not the most significant days of my life. I remember it so well even 18 years on, including all that the priest said. The symbolism within the ceremony is important to me so perhaps the signifcance of the ring is greater for me than it might be for others. I'm beginning to wonder if perhaps putting mine back on would be the start. No one has suggested that yet but as I read through all these responses its a thought that comes to me again and again. Reading your response I can see that you know how I feel, and in a strange way, what you have written draws my attention back to my own discarding of my ring albeit in not such a dramatic fashion.
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gemini_rose (10153) | 2 years ago | Putting your own ring on could be a start, but its still not the same is it? For me the only thing that I would feel at peace with is having the new rings we have blessed, I would say renew the vows, but I think they would have to be a different set of vows that are renewed, things have changed and so that has to change, its funny how such a small thing to one is a totally huge thing to others. I hope that you can find a solution and a way to put things right, as I am sure I will with time.
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10. Anhedonia (1776) | 2 years ago | Even though the ring is a symbol of your commitment, it is just an object and not the commitment itself. I'm sure you know this in your heart.
I like the idea someone earlier in this thread suggested, renewing your vows. I wish I'd been the first person to think of it!
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