How can I forgive & forget?  | | Some years ago, during a tough period in my marriage, my wife threw her wedding ring down the toilet and flushed it away. She immediately regretted it and I pulled up the drains looking for it but never found it. I bought her a new one but its always bothered me. To me that new ring is just a ring, the marriage ring, the one that was blessed in church has been flushed down the toilet. It was so nearly the case that the whole marriage followed it but we pulled through. I certainly didn't conduct myself well that night but I felt so betrayed, especially as I had done nothing in my eyes deserving of such a gesture. We are happily married still but this thing stays on my mind and is a raw nerve. I do not wear my wedding ring any more and I dont think I ever look at hers. I say I forgive, but inside I think I must not really forgive because I still am holding on to this and resenting it, feeling betrayed and hurt and refusing to get over it. I know it isn't really possible to forget but how can I truely forgive and what does it mean that the memory does not fade for me?
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| | | | | | | | 11. Pose123 (5830) | 2 years ago | Hi Norfolk_Jim, Forgiving in never easy but it is very necessary. Forgetting seems to be even harder. The fact that it still bothers you means that it is hurting you. Forgiving always helps the one who forgives. If you can't work it out and it continues to bother you, seek professional help. Blessings.
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| | 12. mbs730 (1889) | 2 years ago | Wow, not sure what to say about that. Thats pretty extreme and if I was in your position I would feel the same way. My husband did something that I have never forgiven him for either. Maybe I am wrong but I can't help how I feel. When my daughter was born, he didn't bother visiting me until the evening of the second day of her birth in the hospital. Nor did I even get a call from him. He had been sick, I guess the whole event overwhelmed him and it was BAD enough that he whined about how sick he was and whined how he had no sleep because of it considering I was the one who went through the trauma AND I was the one who NEEDED sleep and didn't get it... but he also lied about staying home and resting that day. I found out that he went to his mother's (who I despise) to set up a fund for our daughter.. mom in law is superficial and materialistic. Hubby also at that time (he is more educated now) cared only about that. This was almost 6 years ago.. but I still have a hard time truly forgiving him for this. Now listen, I have done plenty of not so nice things behind his back too, like somethings I pulled that I wasn't honest about... and I know 2 wrongs don't make a right but what he did was worse. And as far as forgiving, I have a hard time doing that to begin with. Logically I know, if you don't move on it hurts you in the end but... sometimes how can you get rid of that feeling and truly move on? I am with you on wondering how to do it too.
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Norfolk_Jim (104) | 2 years ago | Yes, I can imagine that would be hard to get over. I guess that when you have faced something similar you can readily empathise with the feelings and the difficulty of getting over them and letting them go. I think of forgiveness as a choice rather than as a feeling. I'm not sure we ever forget but my feeling is that the frequency with which we remember should reduce and also the sting of the memory should become less. I have plenty of bad memories that I rarely think of but when I do they dont sting that much. i see you had a problem with the "post comment" button, LOL. They should introduce a delete button here.
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| | 13. mbs730 (1889) | 2 years ago | Wow, not sure what to say about that. Thats pretty extreme and if I was in your position I would feel the same way. My husband did something that I have never forgiven him for either. Maybe I am wrong but I can't help how I feel. When my daughter was born, he didn't bother visiting me until the evening of the second day of her birth in the hospital. Nor did I even get a call from him. He had been sick, I guess the whole event overwhelmed him and it was BAD enough that he whined about how sick he was and whined how he had no sleep because of it considering I was the one who went through the trauma AND I was the one who NEEDED sleep and didn't get it... but he also lied about staying home and resting that day. I found out that he went to his mother's (who I despise) to set up a fund for our daughter.. mom in law is superficial and materialistic. Hubby also at that time (he is more educated now) cared only about that. This was almost 6 years ago.. but I still have a hard time truly forgiving him for this. Now listen, I have done plenty of not so nice things behind his back too, like somethings I pulled that I wasn't honest about... and I know 2 wrongs don't make a right but what he did was worse. And as far as forgiving, I have a hard time doing that to begin with. Logically I know, if you don't move on it hurts you in the end but... sometimes how can you get rid of that feeling and truly move on? I am with you on wondering how to do it too.
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| | 14. mbs730 (1889) | 2 years ago | Wow, not sure what to say about that. Thats pretty extreme and if I was in your position I would feel the same way. My husband did something that I have never forgiven him for either. Maybe I am wrong but I can't help how I feel. When my daughter was born, he didn't bother visiting me until the evening of the second day of her birth in the hospital. Nor did I even get a call from him. He had been sick, I guess the whole event overwhelmed him and it was BAD enough that he whined about how sick he was and whined how he had no sleep because of it considering I was the one who went through the trauma AND I was the one who NEEDED sleep and didn't get it... but he also lied about staying home and resting that day. I found out that he went to his mother's (who I despise) to set up a fund for our daughter.. mom in law is superficial and materialistic. Hubby also at that time (he is more educated now) cared only about that. This was almost 6 years ago.. but I still have a hard time truly forgiving him for this. Now listen, I have done plenty of not so nice things behind his back too, like somethings I pulled that I wasn't honest about... and I know 2 wrongs don't make a right but what he did was worse. And as far as forgiving, I have a hard time doing that to begin with. Logically I know, if you don't move on it hurts you in the end but... sometimes how can you get rid of that feeling and truly move on? I am with you on wondering how to do it too.
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| | 15. mbs730 (1889) | 2 years ago | Wow, not sure what to say about that. Thats pretty extreme and if I was in your position I would feel the same way. My husband did something that I have never forgiven him for either. Maybe I am wrong but I can't help how I feel. When my daughter was born, he didn't bother visiting me until the evening of the second day of her birth in the hospital. Nor did I even get a call from him. He had been sick, I guess the whole event overwhelmed him and it was BAD enough that he whined about how sick he was and whined how he had no sleep because of it considering I was the one who went through the trauma AND I was the one who NEEDED sleep and didn't get it... but he also lied about staying home and resting that day. I found out that he went to his mother's (who I despise) to set up a fund for our daughter.. mom in law is superficial and materialistic. Hubby also at that time (he is more educated now) cared only about that. This was almost 6 years ago.. but I still have a hard time truly forgiving him for this. Now listen, I have done plenty of not so nice things behind his back too, like somethings I pulled that I wasn't honest about... and I know 2 wrongs don't make a right but what he did was worse. And as far as forgiving, I have a hard time doing that to begin with. Logically I know, if you don't move on it hurts you in the end but... sometimes how can you get rid of that feeling and truly move on? I am with you on wondering how to do it too.
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| | 16. mbs730 (1889) | 2 years ago | Wow, not sure what to say about that. Thats pretty extreme and if I was in your position I would feel the same way. My husband did something that I have never forgiven him for either. Maybe I am wrong but I can't help how I feel. When my daughter was born, he didn't bother visiting me until the evening of the second day of her birth in the hospital. Nor did I even get a call from him. He had been sick, I guess the whole event overwhelmed him and it was BAD enough that he whined about how sick he was and whined how he had no sleep because of it considering I was the one who went through the trauma AND I was the one who NEEDED sleep and didn't get it... but he also lied about staying home and resting that day. I found out that he went to his mother's (who I despise) to set up a fund for our daughter.. mom in law is superficial and materialistic. Hubby also at that time (he is more educated now) cared only about that. This was almost 6 years ago.. but I still have a hard time truly forgiving him for this. Now listen, I have done plenty of not so nice things behind his back too, like somethings I pulled that I wasn't honest about... and I know 2 wrongs don't make a right but what he did was worse. And as far as forgiving, I have a hard time doing that to begin with. Logically I know, if you don't move on it hurts you in the end but... sometimes how can you get rid of that feeling and truly move on? I am with you on wondering how to do it too.
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mbs730 (1889) | 2 years ago | OH gosh sorry about that!!! I didn't mean to flood, it was taking forever to post and I kept refreshing the page and copying my answer!!!! SORRY
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| | 17. crazed_moma (873) | 2 years ago | I'm sorry that must stink. Staying angry and carrying the resentment only hurts you though. This sounds really hokey but write on a piece of paper and burn it. There's no way to make up for it.
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Norfolk_Jim (104) | 2 years ago | The drains certainly did. If I can laugh about it, maybe it is a start to getting over it.
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crazed_moma (873) | 2 years ago | There you go Jim.:) LAughter is always the best medicine.;)
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| | 18. chiyosan (9195) | 2 years ago | what she did must have really hurt you. basically because though you still live with her and are happily married to this day with her you still have not forgotten what she did.
i guess you will never forget that.. but for you to move on and wanted to have the ring that was blessed... the ideas shared previously of renewal of vows is the best and it will too help you start over with her.
i am sure she does regret doing it and loves you deeply. its just sometimes, we are only people and we do silly things and hurt those that we love unintentionally. i hope you can find in your heart to put it at the back of your mind so as not to affect your decisions and feelings for her and for your family.
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Norfolk_Jim (104) | 2 years ago | Theres been a lot of good advice put forward on here. I'm glad I posted this as otherwise I'd not have had all those good suggestions. Thanks for your taking time to contribute.
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| | 19. nice030481 (837) | 2 years ago | i understand you on how you felt about it, it is true that wedding ring is not just a ring because it is bless by God, representing everlasting love. thats why i still keep me wedding ring. and my husband too. but maybe you dont know how your wife felt about when her wedding ring lost in the toilet, coz if im am her even though you brought me a new ring, i still cry and wish to bless again in the church the new ring you bought for me.
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Norfolk_Jim (104) | 2 years ago | Yes, for me a lot of symbolism in the ring, maybe not so for everyone. We are all very different, for some people something is more significant that for others. to some its just a band of gold, to others, a symbol of lasting faithfulness and commitment. It was not so much lost as deliberately flushed. That kind of crushed me because to my it symbolised a flushing down the toilet of our whole marriage. I felt utterly rejected at that point. Maybe that was not my wifes intention. she regretted it and I spent a long time in the drains looking for it.
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Norfolk_Jim (104) | 2 years ago | No, never really thought of revenge but as I've read through the replies here I have been made to consider more closely why I dont wear my own ring any more and to consider putting it back on maybe.
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