McCain, How Many Houses Do You Own?

@ParaTed2k (22940)
Sheboygan, Wisconsin
August 21, 2008 8:13pm CST
This question seems to be passing for actual news lately. Wow! Say It Isn't So! The horror! The Agony! The Inhumanity! A man whose investments are bought and sold by investment firms isn't sure about what's in his portfolio. I bet that's never happened before in the history of civilized society! lol On the other hand, should we ask Obama to finally answer the question about his neighbor Tony Rezko? Should we ask Obama how many 1/2 brothers he has? Should we ask Obama how many childhoods he had? (I mean, so far we've heard about him being raised in a poor family, and being raised in a pretty well to do family). Should we ask Obama how many opinions about any given subject he's had? (that we probably have to figure out for ourselves. It's not like the incompetent press will do their jobs here). I know one thing, this is not going to be a boring election season! :~D
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@xfahctor (14113)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
22 Aug 08
First ted, I want to comment and compliment you on the half brother sting, if obama is so concerned with poverty, perhaps he should look to taking care of his own family first right? But marxism only applies I guess when it's someone else doing the giving. And that is just what this smacks of. How dare McCain and his wife be successfull when so many others are suffering. I want one of those houses. I deserve one of them! The GALL of them, I spit on them! *ptooie*
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
22 Aug 08
Thank you for getting that point! I can't imagine a world where, if I was that bad off, my brothers, sister or parents wouldn't be right there to help with whatever they could. In fact, it's happened, and they did. Now, it could be that his half brother is living like that by choice and Obama has tried to do for him. If that is the case, then more power to both of them. If not, then yes, Obama has the right to decide who he will help and who he doesn't... but if he reserves that right for himself, it's awful small of him to not respect that right for the rest of us.
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@xfahctor (14113)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
22 Aug 08
I commented on other aspects of "housegate" in one of annies threads on the topic. http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/1664007.aspx?p=2 It's more of a rant but it speaks to the petiness of the whole issue, check it out.
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• United States
22 Aug 08
The whole half-brother thing is another situation in which Obama's opponents have an attack ready no matter what he says/does. If it came out that he DID help George O. out, I'd bet anything the attack would be that he cares more about helping people overseas than about helping Americans at home. After all, that HAS been argued already, concerning the Global Poverty Act (which doesn't mandate any additional US spending AT ALL). Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. That's how smear artists work. Real, thoughtful people would not try to show him in the worst light possible NO MATTER WHAT.
@irisheyes (4370)
• United States
22 Aug 08
I saw the pictures of the homes that both candidates own on the TV this morning and thought they were all ostentatious, nouveau riche and characterless. What happened to houses like Hickory Hill, the Kennedy compound at Hyannis, San Clemente and Reagan's Californaia ranch. Those were distinctive properties that told you something about their owners. The houses these candidates live in and own are no different than the tacky abodes of your average yuppie trying to impress. I don't really care how many houses they own or how much they are worth. I'd just like to see one home with a little class. After all, they might want to entertain visiting dignitaries in one of their private properties. LOL
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@clrumfelt (5597)
• Tennessee Ridge, Tennessee
22 Aug 08
What difference does it make how many houses McCain owns when considering who you will vote for? So what, Obama owns only one house (if that's even true), and McCain probably own a whole slew of them, and a few condos too. I'd rather have someone in the presidency who knows how to manage money with investments than someone who just HAS money(the Obama's have made millions, and say it is petty cash). In my view, the investor shows superior managment skills and would probably be much better at solving the economic problems of the USA.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
22 Aug 08
The investors also create jobs. I wonder if either Obama has ever created a job in their lives.
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@N4life (851)
• United States
23 Aug 08
That is spinning the top right off the table clrumfelt. The fact that he has no clue how many houses he owns suddenly turns to that proves he is great fr the economy. A good investor knows the homes he owns. I don't care how rich.
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@clrumfelt (5597)
• Tennessee Ridge, Tennessee
22 Aug 08
The Obama strategy here seems to be to surprise Senator McCain with questions he maybe isn't prepared to answer on the spot. I wish McCain was a little quicker on his feet with one liners. I think a good answer to the quesion would have been, "I don't really know, you'll have to give me 90 days to count them." However, the hoopla made in the news about McCain's answer was totally unnecessary. Anyone who takes a few minutes to think about it will remember that Cindy McCain is heiress to a large inheritance and that there is probably no way he could sum up all their investments on the spot. I think those news networks can be so DUMB sometimes (or SHOULD be) in the way they present some items. They think they can spoon feed anything to the American public and they will just eat it up without thinking.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
22 Aug 08
What people forget is, if your retirement is part of a mutual fund or other group plan, you can't answer similar questions about your own assets. Which means a huge number of the people who are shocked at McCain, are no more knowledgable about what they own than he is.
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@clrumfelt (5597)
• Tennessee Ridge, Tennessee
22 Aug 08
So they're hypocrites. And I doubt they're going to ask themselves the same question and try to answer it.
@N4life (851)
• United States
22 Aug 08
Maybe I don't know to much about this, but I have never heard of a mutual fund or group plan in which someone will own an entire house or condo. Does this happen with extremely wealthy investors?
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@RevSkull (271)
• Tokelau
22 Aug 08
All the questions about Obama have been answered in his book and by excellent reporting. Nothing was found improper in the buying of the Obama house and no illegal fund raising was connected to him. He has two half sisters (just like Cindy McCain) and has three surviving half brothers...one was killed in an accident. Very few Americans can relate to someone being so wealthy he doesn't know how many homes he has. That doesn't impune his character but it does bring into question who the elitist really is. Is it he man who is worth a few million dollars...most of which came from his books or is it the man who is now trying hard to keep his personal finances and his wife's away from public scrutiny. What about McCain supporting the draft. It's a part of his website...reporters had missed it till today. Whose judgment is bad? Obama who opposed a war we didn't need to fight, who said we should strike Al Qaeda in Pakistan 3 weeks before we did. Obama who called for 12,000 more troops in Afghanistan only to see us now implementing that plan. Obama who called for a 16 month troop withdrawal form Iraq starting in January...today Secy Rice sign an agreement to do just that. Seems McCain better start letting Obama school him on foreign policy.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
22 Aug 08
Funny how any "explanation" is fine to supporters, even if it isn't the same "explanation" every time... ;~D As for the other things, the terrorist made Iraq the epicenter of the war on terror, once they lost there, they turned their hopes on Afgantistan. When was the Commander of Operations over Afganistan ever denied troops because Gen. Patreaus said he needed them more in Afganistan? Sec. Rice and the tenetative agreement with Iraq is right in line with what Prs. Bush has long said about withdrawal. That is, when the government of Iraq feels it is ready to be independent, then the US and other coalition nations will withdraw. Just because Obama seems to agree with that policy doesn't mean he came up with it. Nice try though. ;~D
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
22 Aug 08
"Obama who called for a 16 month troop withdrawal form Iraq starting in January...today Secy Rice sign an agreement to do just that." Do you really think the conditions in Iraq were the same in January that they are today? Do you really think that we have made absolutely no progress in the last 8 months? Conditions are different and the potential for troop withdrawal is something that must be consistently looked at as situations on the ground continue to develop. Right now violence is at its lowest. That was not the case in January.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
22 Aug 08
True Taskr, also, 8 months ago, Obama was saying he would call for the immediate withdrawal of US troops from Iraq. I wonder what happened to that promise?
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• United States
23 Aug 08
The reason this is such a big deal it the vast majority of Americans know how many houses they have. There are two reasons this has had so much traction: Anyone that doesn't know how many homes they have, can not relate to the majority of Americans. Let's face it, the man is 71 years old, and if this is the only thing he can't remember at this age than he is doing good. After this remark, I am sure there are some Americans that don't really want a man with his hand on the button at his age?
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
23 Aug 08
So what is the difference between a rich man who is out of touch with the middle class and middle class people who are out of touch with the rich? Judging any group of people based on preconcieved notions is still prejudice.
• United States
23 Aug 08
Wouldnt some people say that its the extreme opposite with Obama? That you would be putting a very inexperienced person that is too young "hands on the buttons"? I dont think that because he owns the house that it makes him arrogant or that he didnt want to answer at the moment. He was a prisoner of war, and at least he served his country, again, you cant say that about Obama either.
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@N4life (851)
• United States
23 Aug 08
I just have to say this, probably my most un-PC remark ever made here but here goes. At least Clinton was smart enough to get out of war, not only did McCain go to war he got captured, and now this is a central argument as to why he should be president.
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@bonbon664 (3466)
• Canada
22 Aug 08
This has made the news in Canada today too. I have to admit, I was surprised by his answer at first. I figured that someone has way too much money if they don't know off hand how many houses they have. When I stopped to think of it though, it's not so crazy if he has an investment firm buying and selling for him, he might not know. Bottom line though, if you're in that position, you have a gizillion dollars, and if I was an American voter, it would put the seed in my mind that he has no way of relating to the average American. This man would never really be in the position of knowing where the next mortgage payment is coming from.
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@shooie (4984)
• United States
30 Aug 08
But on the other hand as an American or any other working person if we got someone to manage our money for us wouldn't we be better off? Can't fault a man or woman that has hired someone to handle their money now can we? You get someone to help you with your finance that knows more about investments and things of that nature wouldn't we all be doing better?
@eaforeman6 (8979)
• United States
23 Aug 08
You know I really wouldnt even be concerned about how many houses he has. I just know he has the experience and very first hand knowledge of the worst case senario's. I just cant say that about Obama.
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
22 Aug 08
I would think it is none of anybody's business. But from what I read of some of the following responses, we have a double standard. Obama can own as many houses, have as many childhoods, have a neighbor, have so many half brothers, how many opinions but then he is a Democrat and you know they are above reproach! And he wrote a book. Well maybe McCain did not have time to write one. Besides the majority of the media are slanted towards Obama and the Democrats so they are biased anyway. Except for Fox, of course. As for how many houses that McCain owns, is that leading up to something like should he sell some of his houses and give the money to the poor? Or the ridiculous, where does he store his stuff, has he a summer home, a winter home? Which one did he spend in? Even though he may be partial owner and someone else has to have the say so, the implication is clear, he is a rich man and white at that. But then you would not want a poor man as president, he could not afford it, unless he was like- well I will not say it.
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@patms1 (521)
• United States
22 Aug 08
I think this is great. To me it means the McCain is doing so well that they are going nuts looking for some thing bad to say. I have said it before and I will say it again. If Obama were white he would not have made it to the first runoff. He has no experience at all. At this time America needs a strong leader who is not afraid to fight for us. I don't believe Obama can do this. It seems his answer to ever thing is let talk. I truly believe that the Arabs want him to win and that's what scares me the most. I don't know about others but I am not comfortable with him. I am not sure just where his loyetys lie.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
22 Aug 08
It's just another example of lazy, incompetent "reporters" spewing something they figure will pass as "news". There are plenty of things they could come up with against McCain, fortunately for the lazy bums, they don't need anything deeper than this.
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@N4life (851)
• United States
22 Aug 08
I think with the McCain camp attempting to portray Obama as an eilitist this is news and McCain made it news. It was also the 5 million dollar remark that makes it news. It comes across as hypocritical for McCain.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
22 Aug 08
True, but didn't Obama's big draw have something to do with NOT being just another politician? If he isn't about changing politics as we know it, there's nothing that makes him any different, so all you can go on is experience and his stand on issues... two things that don't speak well for him.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
22 Aug 08
Ok, I'll challenge you on that one (in a friendly way, of course). He says he wants to increase taxes on the wealthy to increase opportunity for everyone... When in history did tax increases on anyone help opportunity for anyone else? The last two major tax CUTS have created record federal revenues. Clinton inhereted the longest continuous period of growth in our economy, yet after his tax increases, he left office with a recession. The incompetent press and the left wing like to paint Prs. Bush's tax cut as "a tax cut for the rich", yet again, it brought it more money, not less. It was part of an economic plan that helped our economy survive the attacks of 9/11, the worst hurricane season in florida in decades and the double wammy known as Hurricanes Katrina and Rita. So Obama's plan is to do exactly what history has proven to decrease revenues? But with the phantom "increased" revenues from the tax increases, he will somehow be able to increase defense spending, increase medical spending, increase spending on education, increase spending on alternative energy, increase spending... His whole "Blueprint for Change" is one spending increase after the other. For the last 8 years, if the Democrats didn't like a bill, they asked Prs. Bush, "How are you going to pay for this"... of course, they never asked that for their own earmarks and pork... but anyway)... How does Obama intend on paying for all this change? By taxing the rich. Ok, that challenge went far longer than I intended, but when I headed over to http://Barackobama.com to verify what I was saying, I noticed more spending than even I was going to accuse him of.
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@N4life (851)
• United States
22 Aug 08
Obama has seemed to change his views on a couple of things since before the campaign. It dissapoints me to an extent, but I guess they all are politicians trying to get elected.
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@valeria1 (2721)
• United States
22 Aug 08
I agree with you this election promisses! So many dirty secrets here and there, but in the end I think Obama wins, just for the fact that he is talked about everywere in the planet! A politician one time said, talk good, talk bad but talk about me! In the end people will vote for him, watch it!
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