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myLot reputation of 90/100. krajibg (2494)   ranked 966 out of 38,461 in life10 months ago

Well, all religions are of the opinion that men ( both man and woman )are God's creation. In the "Genesis" of the Old Testament it is clearly stated that on the sixth day God created men and the seventh day He took rest. If we are religious we must abide by what is said in our religious Books or it would be a heresy. In Hinduism too Lord Brahma is said to be the creator of all lives on the Earth. The Muslims too believe that they are the gift of Allah.

But there came a Darwin and said and proved to men were not given birth to by any outer force but they are the result of evolution. As if a volcano erupted. How could that be? But in his 'Natural Selection' he dared to divulge with proof that the origin of all species is through evolution and human being is an evolution from monkey family including Gorilla, Orang-otan, Chimpanzee, Gibbon etc.

Now you are surely in a precarious situation. As on the one hand you believe in the Almighty God and being rational and an intelligent individual of the post modern era you can not out mode Darwin.

What do you say?

 
 
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1. myLot reputation of 85/100. jolope (706)   ranked 3,111 out of 38,461 in life   10 months ago

i heard this story once from my sister..
i think it was some kind of a text message from her friends..
it goes like this..

God and man were talking..
the man said that he can create anything

and God said, go on show me..

then the man took some dust to make something out of it..

then God said, make your own dust.

so i guess there's really no contest..


myLot reputation of 95/100. Barb42 (2708)   ranked 241 out of 38,461 in life  10 months ago

jolope, I've never heard it said that way. That is a good example showing that there is indeed a GOD!


myLot reputation of 96/100. mariedenae (109)   ranked 3,060 out of 38,461 in life  10 months ago

WOW. That's the best explanation I have ever heard!


myLot reputation of 95/100. zweeb82 (1443)   ranked 1,578 out of 38,461 in life  10 months ago

Cool!~ this is the 1st time I've heard this one, hahalol


myLot reputation of 90/100. krajibg (2494)   ranked 966 out of 38,461 in life  10 months ago

Yes, before I commented there are so many others who have got their views. But I go with Darwin.

Thanks for discussion.

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2. myLot reputation of 54/100. forslahiri (930)   ranked 7,079 out of 38,461 in life   10 months ago

Hi,
I only say that the "Missing Link" is still missing.
Upto that day(when the missing-link will be unfolded with evidence)I 'll believe in that SUPER POWER!
=Lahiri,Kolkata,India.


myLot reputation of 21/100. Chiang_Mai_boy (1258)   ranked 15,194 out of 38,461 in life  10 months ago

While you can claim a missing link in the fossil record there is none in the human genome. This argument is outdated. There is no missing link.


myLot reputation of 90/100. krajibg (2494)   ranked 966 out of 38,461 in life  10 months ago

Hi Forslahiri,

I think you know only the 'missing link' and nothing beyond that. Do you exactly know what is the 'missing link'? If know do elaborate here or else please do not so your pseudo intellectually. That Darwin was right in his concretion is being strengthened by the neo Darwinians.

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3. myLot reputation of 63/100. shambhujit (918)   ranked 1,870 out of 38,461 in life   10 months ago

I believe in the Natural selection. But the point is I still believe in God.


myLot reputation of 90/100. krajibg (2494)   ranked 966 out of 38,461 in life  10 months ago

Accruing to Einstein God never bothers if you believe on not in God. He just gave an example of the vastness of the universe. The universe is so big that the planet called Earth is like a particle of sand and you are no body at all, hence if you believe or not believe makes no sense and therefore I have supported Darwin that Men were not created by God but it came be today's form only because of evolution.

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4. myLot reputation of 95/100. Barb42 (2708)   ranked 241 out of 38,461 in life   10 months ago

I'll ask any Darwin believer why the monkeys, apes, gorillas, etc., haven't become extinct if we evolved from them. And why are women having babies? And why aren't animals having CHILDREN, if we evolved from them? It is a stretch of the imagination to think we came from an animal. Of course, there is always somebody who will question whether there is a real GOD or if he had anything to do with anything. I will have to say, though, that there are some people who do act like monkeys!


myLot reputation of 95/100. zweeb82 (1443)   ranked 1,578 out of 38,461 in life  10 months ago

HahahahalolROFLlol


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (11659)   ranked 226 out of 38,461 in life  10 months ago

I happen to believe in evolution as I've always been a science "nerd"--nope we didn't exactly evolve from monkeys, apes or gorillas but a branch of the primate family...it was around the Ramapithicus some four million years ago that one branch of the primate family group that branch out...the one continued the "monkey" line while the other branched to what would be the human line beginning with Australopithecus--oh, and I do happen to believe in a "higher" force as well, despite my interest in science


myLot reputation of 90/100. krajibg (2494)   ranked 966 out of 38,461 in life  10 months ago

Hi Barb42! I can understand your point. But the fact is that when evolution was taking place the climate and the environment was friendly to suit that. Later when that atmosphere was over all the animals as pointed out by you remained in the same sape. Darwin has proof of this that the origin of man goes to the apes.


myLot reputation of 95/100. Barb42 (2708)   ranked 241 out of 38,461 in life  10 months ago


What proof does Darwin have that out proves the Bible? I believe the Word of God is true and HE says that he made man in HIS image. And I don't think God is an ape. I'll just have to be one of the no sayers. I believe the Word over Darwin.


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (11659)   ranked 226 out of 38,461 in life  10 months ago

Barb42 have you studied science at all? I've studied astronomy, geology, paleontology, anthropology and archeology...the proof of the whole evolutionary process is in the fossil evidence that has been found


myLot reputation of 57/100. Latrivia (1577)   ranked 6,435 out of 38,461 in life  10 months ago

Barb: "I'll ask any Darwin believer why the monkeys, apes, gorillas, etc., haven't become extinct if we evolved from them. "

The answer to this question is, "we didn't". We did not evolve from monkeys or gorillas, though we did evolve from apes. More specifically, we are apes, and so are monkeys and gorillas. We share a common ancestor with them, but they are not our ancestors. Think of them as cousins.


Barb: "And why are women having babies?"
Because we need to procreate in order for the species to survive.



Barb:"And why aren't animals having CHILDREN, if we evolved from them?"
*Sigh* That is simply not how evolution works. The transition from species to species is gradual. No one member of a species just gives birth to a completely different species. It takes time and numerous genetic changes.


Barb:"It is a stretch of the imagination to think we came from an animal."

Given that we are animals ourselves, it is only logical to accept that we descended from other animals. I suppose you find it far more logical that we were created instantaneously out of a pile of dust by an invisible man in the sky?



myLot reputation of 95/100. Barb42 (2708)   ranked 241 out of 38,461 in life  10 months ago

"I suppose you find it far more logical that we were created instantaneously out of a pile of dust by an invisible man in the sky?"

Yes, I believe that GOD created the first woman and man. Darwin's 'truth' was just a theory,nothing else.


myLot reputation of 57/100. Latrivia (1577)   ranked 6,435 out of 38,461 in life  10 months ago

"Darwin's 'truth' was just a theory,nothing else. "

Scientific theories are far more than conjecture. They are as close to the truth as you can get in science.

In the case of evolution - it isn't contested. It happens, we've seen it and tested it.


myLot reputation of 90/100. krajibg (2494)   ranked 966 out of 38,461 in life  10 months ago

Barb has no answer to Pyewacket and Latrivia. Your points are quite out side the context and your clutching around the God thing is too hypothetical and Derwin did not say for nothing. His theories are based on practical finding.


jannike (8)   ranked 29,346 out of 38,461 in life  10 months ago

Barb42, you have no idea what you are talking about. Darwin never said that we were once monkeys, apes etc. Primates all evolved from a species that were around millions of years ago, which were neither humans nor apes, but which separated into different groups and evolved further on their own, to fit their new environments, resulting in the primate species that live today. No one ever said that humans were once monkeys.
Also, why would animals have human children, if that is what you were implying? How does the fact that animals do not give birth to human children disprove the theory of evolution? The reason that billions of different species exist is that as a species spread out, the organisms that are best fitted to that place will survive and reproduce, while ones that are not fitted to the new environment will die. Therefore, the genes of the organisms that are best fitted to the new environment live on, to produce organisms that are better and better fitted to the environent. For example, the beings that the human race evolved from originated in Africa. The ones with the darkest skin survived the fierce sun. As the species spread out to Europe and Asia, dark skin was no longer a necessity, and so members of the species with slightly lighter skin survived each generation, until everyone in Europe and Asia had pale skin.

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5. rroshanr (34)   ranked 18,440 out of 38,461 in life   10 months ago

i believe in Darwin theory as it is more simple. And if you look at the apes, you must believe Darwin theory as they do really look like us.


myLot reputation of 67/100. zedlav23 (377)   ranked 8,017 out of 38,461 in life  10 months ago

I believe Darwin's theory is a diabolical theory that was devised by the devil to confuse man and cast doubt in his mind that there is indeed One and True living God who perfectly designed man.


myLot reputation of 90/100. krajibg (2494)   ranked 966 out of 38,461 in life  10 months ago

You are right and I too believe this. I say the concept of God is all hypothesis and the theory of Darwin is all concrete and there are proves that men' ancestors were the apes.

You belie in God. Just tell me how he created men. All these stories are to be fool men in general.

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6. myLot reputation of 97/100. Pose123 (5825)   ranked 62 out of 38,461 in life   10 months ago

Hi krajibg, I think that there has to be a first cause or as most people say God. It is possible to believe in both God and evolution because we are spiritual beings and Darwin only talks about the physical. Blessings.


myLot reputation of 90/100. krajibg (2494)   ranked 966 out of 38,461 in life  10 months ago

Hi Pose! I do have all respect for your faith on the Almighty. But just reflect upon Darwin's theory of Natural selection and you would find proof that men came to this world only through evolution. And there is no denying that fact.


myLot reputation of 97/100. Pose123 (5825)   ranked 62 out of 38,461 in life  10 months ago

Hi Again krajibg, Thank you and I also respect your beliefs. Blessings.

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7. myLot reputation of 96/100. dragon54u (9761)   ranked 263 out of 38,461 in life   10 months ago

I have no argument with Darwin, nor with the tale of Creation. God (or whatever you choose to call him) did not create the earth in seven of our days, but His. Nor did he create man in one brief moment. God has to be a scientist, just look at the seamless way that all of nature interacts! It would make sense that He evolved us into His image through a gradual process. He also gave us the brains to recognize this if we will only use the intelligence He gave us.

The Bible and other holy books were written by men, inspired by God or not, in such a way that the people of that time could understand them. That is why they say that things were created in a short span of time. The more science I learn, the more my faith is reinforced.


myLot reputation of 90/100. krajibg (2494)   ranked 966 out of 38,461 in life  10 months ago

Yes I go wit you to a limited way only. I would not go eye to eye with you when you say He gave us. Not he have us but we got them so because of evolution. All the holly or unholy books were written by shrewd people like you and me and tried to rule over people with poring the belief that God is there. Whereas no God was seen bu=y any one.

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8. myLot reputation of 92/100. MsTickle (8987)   ranked 853 out of 38,461 in life   10 months ago

If you believe that God created the world in 7 days then you have to believe that Eve was producing children with her sons and the sons with their daughters. People need to understand that the old testament is not a literal translation. It's my opinion that the words of the Old Testament have been given way too much credence.

Darwin found the evidence and put forward the theories, he didn't create anything.


myLot reputation of 90/100. krajibg (2494)   ranked 966 out of 38,461 in life  10 months ago

You said just my version. But people are with all lethal wepon to attack us. So be careful friend.

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9. Felicialessard1 (52)   ranked 15,105 out of 38,461 in life   10 months ago

Well, apparently some scientists have tried to create a "person," of course, they failed. Darwin was "man." So, therefore, if scientists can't make a person or even remotely close to it, it had to be God. I would love to see someone create stars, humans, trees, etc. I think it would be something fun to watch at least. No one is as experienced as the almighty creator. Think about it. God creates a big picture in the sky every second of the day. The Big Bang theory is outplayed now.

I actually had an argument with my science teacher about this. She was teaching on the "Big Bang" theory and I was arguing with her to reach my point. She had scientists and I had my Bible, haha! I never in my life have ever got sent to the office for disagreeing or speaking my mind until that day. Now, if you go into that school, Bibles are allowed and we have the right to wear religious shirts. Go me!

You can't argue with someone that is greater than us. I know people are entitled to their own opinions and I respect that but I will fight whoever disagrees with me, nicely, of course.


myLot reputation of 90/100. krajibg (2494)   ranked 966 out of 38,461 in life  10 months ago

Ye I respect your Bible. But tell me who wrote the Bible? Was not it a man? And visualize the time when a man or a group of men did so. They wanted to make people believe that there is supreme power called God. But now? how would you interpret the bible and the theory of evolution by Darwin?

One or the other you have to believe.

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10. myLot reputation of 85/100. Galena (4123)   ranked 2,384 out of 38,461 in life   10 months ago

this is a silly comparison. believing in evolution is not the same as believing that mankind was created by one of its own.


or do you believe that Newton created gravity?


coming up with a theory does not mean creating it. because theories describe things already there.

I do not believe in the God of book based religions.

but I do not believe that you or I or Darwin created us.

we are products of Nature, and Nature creates change through evolution.


myLot reputation of 83/100. ClassyCat (697)   ranked 3,515 out of 38,461 in life  10 months ago

First of all - - - rroshanr - - speak for yourself. You may look like a monkey, but I sure don't!

The only missing link was Darwin's mind!

Evolution is a farce. Mankind has a spirit, and animals have only a soul. the two are not the same. God is not an animal, and He created mankind in "His own image."

Simple faith accepts God's Word.

The unregenerate mind of humanity will never figure God out, or His ways and or His creation.

I like the scripture that says: "professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, and their foolish hearts were "darkened."


myLot reputation of 85/100. Galena (4123)   ranked 2,384 out of 38,461 in life  10 months ago

I have no problem with the fact that mankind are a species of animal.

no greater and no lesser than other animals, just different. in the same way an elephant and a whale are different.

I have no problem believing that we are descended from other varieties of ape. our DNA is barely different at all.

I can see enough evidence for evolution around me for me to be confident in it's existance. you only have to look at dog breeds, and how they've changed in a lifetime to see how changes come about based on environment, and on who gets to breed.

I find it much easier to believe in evolution than in any of the modern religions.


myLot reputation of 90/100. krajibg (2494)   ranked 966 out of 38,461 in life  10 months ago

Hi Galena, the comparison was not silly. There was an implied metaphor. This was either God or the theory of Darwin? What Darwin sis was all based on scientific analysis. And you are the stern believer on Hod. Well God is all hypothesis and Derwin is all practical. And that made the hell of difference. If you call the color of milk is red it would not be red but would remain ever white.

And that is what is the theory of Darwin.


myLot reputation of 85/100. Galena (4123)   ranked 2,384 out of 38,461 in life  10 months ago

but Drwin could not have created his own species, it was around before he was born.

he simply came up with the idea for the most likely origins of his own species, which happened long before his birth


myLot reputation of 90/100. krajibg (2494)   ranked 966 out of 38,461 in life  10 months ago

Hi Galena! the comparison was not between God and Darwin. It was rather between God's creation and what the theories of Darwin have to say. Thats all.

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