Adolf Obama!

So what would have been wrong with Obama obeying the law and just staying out of the way? GM and Chrysler both ended up in Chapter 11, just as they would have without his illegal actions.

Obama said that they were to big to fail. He said that if the went into bankruptcy, it would cause a depression. Well, they are in Bankruptcy and not a single dime of his "bail out" made any difference at all. Yet now that he has seized control, it's somehow "ok" for them to file Chapter 11.

As for the money spent on the war in Iraq. The Central Committee has already spent more than the entire run of the war so far. None of the money they have wasted on the lies about bail outs have freed a soul or saved a job. All they have accomplished is robbing the taxpayers blind and turning the US into a Marxist nation.

They are nothing but two bit thugs... and they deserve the same treatment.

btw, he also said he wasn't going to nationalize the auto industry, now he says the nationalization is "only temporary".

So which time was he lying?

Be cool, relax, and take control yourself. One good discussion always end up with good conclusion.

This is not a matter of lying or not, anything or whoever, must refer to the law and the Companies Act. gazetted. For GM or Chrysler Inc. or many more, this is a real lesson and new good beginning to reform our auto industry and its future business development.

The main thing now is, release back King Abdullah's tycoon group money that has had been frozen during Mr George Walker Bush, Jr. ruling our country. That is why Obama has to visit King Abdullah in Saudi Arabia this week to discussion that trillions amount of money. To release by consensual agreement that King Abdullah put back on our country's Capital Market.

Don't just take my word, watch on your TV for the next development about it. That is why, today on TV GM's spokesman(CEO) do talking about this predicament will take no longer time, confidently.

Relax and don't jump to the conclusion. Everything will be fine, if all of us now focus on American products. The money will circulate in our country and maintain its American ownership. At the same time, we can't live alone in this world if we want to develop. We need each other, the positive consensus world economy building.

Yes, there was a choice. It's called NO. If GM had been allowed to go bankrupt they would already be on their way to recovery and we wouldn't be stuck with the huge bill. It's been proved over and over again with Amtrak. Bailing companies out doesn't work.

The prisoners at Gitmo have a luxury stay in comparison with the prisoners in the US. I'd even venture to say it is probably the first time in their lives they are getting three meals a day. How many prisoners in Leavenworth Federal get to order out? How many of them get a free laptop?

Greed is the word of the day. I don't blame Obama for it. The greed started before he took office. Can't blame Bush either. Shacks are selling for $100,000 plus these days.

Obama deserves the criticism. The comparison with Hitler is accurate as Obama is leading us into fascism as Hitler did with Germany.

"....criticizing way too much on Obama." I disagree. He deserves plenty of criticism as do most if not all the other politicians in Washington. Just like irishidid said, Obama most certainly did have a choice in the matter. He could have and should have said, No! The auto makers may have asked for the bailout under Bush but Obama didn't try to stand in the way of it either so that makes him just as guilty as Bush as far as the bailouts go. Obama isn't going to straighten out the credit card industry or any other industry for that matter. The whole reason the credit card industry and all the other industries are in the mess they are in is because of the government and those industries being in bed together. And I'm glad Bush neglected to look at it. Why? Because it isn't his or Obama's or any other president's job to "look" into it or fix it. If we want the credit card industry to be fixed then we need to stop turning to the politicians to erase our every mistake and put a bandaid on our every booboo. We don't live in a nanny state for crying out loud! Well, I don't know, maybe we do now. Wanna know how to fix the problem with the credit card industry. It's simple. Pay off any credit card debt you have and stop getting the credit cards. We can solve the problem just like that without running to the government to fix it for us. We, the people of the United States can fix just about all of our problems in the same way. But, we've become so accustomed to running to our politicians or to someone else when we screw up that we've forgotten what it really means to stand on our own, independently. My father told me years ago when I was a teenager that, "with freedom comes responsibility." I didn't understand what he meant at the time but I do now, more than ever. If we are to be a free nation, like our founding fathers intended, we better wake up and buck up and start taking responsibility for that freedom. And we aren't. We better start realizing that being responsible for that freedom means that times may come when we have to take up arms to defend that freedom, that we need to take on the responsibility of knowing what the Constitution says about our rights and our freedoms, that we need to stay in constant touch with our Representatives and Senators and keep an ever diligent and watchful eye on what the government is doing and be willing to stand firm and let them know in no uncertain terms that we will not stand for them exploiting our rights, our freedoms, and all that is rightfully ours, for their own benefit, while doing it in the name of what is right for the nation. I'm not speaking in favor of any politician. I don't trust ANY of them.

Now, as far as the comparisons with Hitler goes, I can understand why you wouldn't compare Obama and Hitler. I certainly don't believe Obama would commit to having millions of innocent people murdered. But, at the same time, I do agree with irishidid that the comparison between Obama and Hilter is accurate, but for a different reason. I study World War II and I've read quite a bit about Hitler. Hitler was a racist. He was a megalomaniac. He murdered millions of Jews and Communists because he believed they were greatly to blame for the sad state of Germany at the time. He also believed that Jews were subhuman and didn't deserve to walk the same earth as the Aryan race. He also murdered gypsies, and Germans who were born with physical and mental defects. Now, like I said, I don't believe Obama is capable of such atrocities as these. But, there is a very strong similarity between the situation in Germany before Hitler was elected and the situation in America before Obama was elected. Both countries were suffering great hardship and despair, Germany perhaps more so than America, but still, things were not looking good in both situations. Both economies were suffering. Both countries, in their own way were not too favorable in the eyes of the rest of the world. And, everyone was desperate for a leader who seemed to have all the answers. Both, Hitler and Obama were great orators. It could maybe even be argued that Hitler was the greatest orator to ever live. Remember the crowds in attendance during Obama's nomination and inauguration? Remember, how they were elated and cried and rejoiced because he had won? Remember how it seemed as though he had finally united a nation in despair? Well, that's very much how it happened when Hitler was elected. Let me finally rap this up. My point is not that Obama is just like Hitler. I don't believe he is. My point is that it is very dangerous to have such blind faith and trust in one human being. Hitler obviously didn't save Germany and Obama can't save America, nor is it his job. But, everyone seems to be relying on him to do just that.

America better wake up, and fast, and realize that if we are to keep our freedoms, we need to take responsibility for those freedoms instead of giving that responsibility to someone else. Our founding fathers created the government to serve us not rule over us. And the only way they can rule over us is for us to give them that power.

What he was supposed to do is uphold the law... which meant just stay out of the way and let the bankruptcy laws handle it.

Instead he broke the law and lied through his rat eating teeth.

First he said he wasn't going to nationalize the auto industry, then he said the nationalization is "only temporary"...

So which time was he lying?

Yes, he did make his Marxism clear in the election, that I do give him credit for (as far as not hiding his intentions). But there is nothing legal, constitutional or honest about what he is doing.

I have to laugh though, Obama has stated that the detainees taken in Afghanistan will get no rights whatsoever. He hasn't stopped any of the interrogations anywhere but GITMO.. which hasn't had any severe interrogations in years.

Obama and Hitler are two peas in a rotting pod. Both of them ran on a campaign of hate, and both ruled on hate.

Don't even try to put McCain in my face, he was forced onto the Republican ticket and the party can rot for it.

So why shrug it off?

I don't really have an interest in politics. And because of that, I don't know as much about political stuff as I would know about something in my area of interest say like how solid state drives work differently than harddrives, and which solid state drives are the best to get for the price. I don't like being incorrect about my facts, and because I wouldn't put much effort into something I have no interest in, I'd rather leave it up to those who do have an interest in it and will make their best effort to be right. I could be a bystander, and that would be just about it.

Hitler hadn't killed anyone in his first 100 days either.

What bigoted fool! Just because we disagree politically you accuse me of being in the Klan? Should I remind you that the Klan is a construct of the Democrat party? Do you know that all the prominent Klansmen in national politics today were Democrats when they were in the Klan?

Take your stereotypical ignorance and take it somewhere where people are stupid enough to swallow your hate.

Don't ever lie to anyone about being anything but the bigot you are.

Hey, in all seriousness, I've seen those old photos. The people Hitler killed kinda looked just like him. Only skinnier and without the Freddie stache.

Anyone who doesn't like Obama is in the clan. You know that don't you Ted? And Mr GoCubsGo, Hitler killed PLENTY of white people. You must be pretty ignorant to believe that "non-whites" were his target. His own "Master Race" didn't even look like him so your asinine claim that he killed those who didn't look like him is completely baseless.

Wow...just wow...

An ignorant cubs fan. How shocking.

0bama now supports Iran getting nukes. Iran has openly declared its intention of wiping Israel off the map. When Iran drops that bomb you and 0bamamoron can pretend to be shocked.

Blah, Blah, Blah.

When you grow a brain and can come up with an original thought, feel free to share it.

What the hell did O'Reilly do? lol

I'm not that big of a fan of the guy (I don't listen to Rush at all), but what's with the O'Reilly hate. The dude's a host of a talk show. He was just blamed for Tiller's death too. We don't blame Olberamann for random horsesht, although we probably should.

No offense, but spouting off stuff like that--conspiracy theory drivvle--makes everything else you write seem like null-and-void nonsense that cannot really be backed up without Moore's mystical gift for editing. Well, except for Bush sitting in the classroom as we were attacked. How dare he assocciate with children!

This guy has had way too much koolaid.

I agree there's plenty of blame to go around. From the auto industry to people who thought they had to have that champagne house on a beer shack budget.

True, but there are laws in place for companies in financial trouble. In fact, they are the same laws that are being used now... they are called "Bankruptcy laws"

Obama said that GM and Crysler were too big to just let them go into bankrupcty. After the billions spent on bailing them out, guess what... they are going into chapter 11 anyway.

The ONLY difference between them doing it now and them doing it before is, now Obama gets his meat hooks into the action.

He is nothing but a two bit thug! No better than any murderous mob boss or Hitler himself.

Well, if you want to take Obama to the Hitler extreme... the only reason Hitler rose to the power and position he attained was because WE put him there. World War I and the restitution they were supposed to pay France, England, etc. bankrupted Germany to the point that someone came along to rally the populace and convince them they weren't going to take it anymore.
Again, the actions of Obama and blame for them can be laid at the feet of Jimmy Hoffa's henchmen who run Teamsters and the UAW. Obama is merely trying to save a sinking ship. "Detroit" isn't working anymore. It doesn't just need fixing, it needs overhauling.
You know... in 1933, the far reaching and far sweeping actions and reforms of Franklin Roosevelt to try and stave off the Depression were often called dictatorial. Obama's actions now are no different. His detractors call him a dictator, but sometimes as the head guy in charge, in times of crisis, someone has to take the bull by the horns. If there was a republican in charge, he'd be doing the same thing.

You can say that the US and others helped set the tone that Hitler exploited to gain power, but you can't say no one else but "we" put him in power. "We" had nothing to do with who Germany chose as their leader.

But hey, I used the rant pulpit to get something off my chest, so far be it from me to try to stop you from doing the same thing...

Rant Away!:~D

Okay...WE pushed the Hitler snowball down the hill. Germans voted him into power because we gave them literally no other choice. He initially was their hope.
I'm afraid, at least in my eyes, your disdain for all things Obama clouds your objectivity. To ME... it does. As soon as I see one of your Obama rants, I wind up defending the guy and I didn't even vote for him - though McCain was no catch (this election's Bob Dole). I liked Bush. I thought he did a good job all things considered.
Sure as hell better than Al Gore. Now THERE is where I lose MY objectivity. I can't stand the guy. He scares the hell out of me.

Ok, then African countries forced slavery on us by making slaves readily available for sale.

African countries made the opportunity available by offering them for sale. The U.S. and many other countries in the world, both white and black took advantage of it.
Had we not imposed such brutal sanctions on Germany at the end of WWI, Hitler and probably WWII may not have happened - at least not on the grand scale that it did. Japan is another story, but we (WWI allies) created the Hitler monster. Perhaps not directly but we certainly made the soil ripe for his type of seed to be sewn.

I can write all night and I won't convince you that Obama is not the evil Hell Spawn you claim he is. You are too set in your opinion. Remember, I don't care for the guy either, but you have put me in a place on more than one occasion to defend him.
Your objectivity is clouded - nothing wrong with that, except you can't get involved in any exchange of dialogue. Your words (and mine) become water sprayed against glass... nothing sinks in, it just splashes off.

Exactly, ORyan. The events after WWI didn't create Hitler, but they did lead to the German people bringing someone like Hitler to power. Just as the African slave trade lead to slavery around the world.

No nation forced Germany to put Hitler in power. No nation closed allowed the things Germans allowed once he was in power. So you can't blame anyone on Hitler but Hitler himself. You can't blame the fact he was able to do what he did on anyone but the Germans who knew about it, yet let it happen anyway.

Obama has stolen the auto industry from the investors and bond holders. He handed the ownership of Chrysler to a foreign company and the ownership of GM to his "car czar" and the UAW. The rightful owners of the company got nothing.

That is called theft! He had no more authority to do what he did than you or I have.

He uses mafia style "protection" rackets and steals from the people.

Justify that!

The old way wasn't working.
Maybe the new way will.
Time to find another discussion.
See you around.

Theft of private property is the "new way".

If you applaud Obama stealing from Auto industry investors and bond holders, why should I care if he comes after you?

Sarah's not as daft as you and others would like us to believe. Even CNN Money can't argue with that.

http://money.cnn.com/2008/08/29/news/newsmakers/palin_oil.fortune/index.htm

Believe it or not, I have written articles in support of Obama. I'll support him when he does things I agree with and oppose him when he does with which I disagree.. and I will completely trash him when he is acting like a viscious dictator. I also admit that there is a fair amount of good old fashioned "Rant" in this article.;~D

Fair enough?

Background:

I'm a husband and father of 4 adult kids. I'm a retired Army NCO. Now I teach guitar and run an online T-shirt shop ( http://cafepress.com/parated2k ) While I've been a Republican most my life, I haven't always voted Republican...and lately I truly wonder if I'll ever consider myself a republican again. I'm mostly conservative, but have been accused of being liberal on a few issues.

I've been a parachute rigger, paratrooper and paramedic. I've done wild land firefighting, security for concerts and events, disaster relief operations and currently volunteer with the Red Cross and People and Paws Search & Rescue... and have been disabled.

That should cover it.;~D

You've been accused of being a liberal? lol When?

Maybe you should start a discussion called "Getting to know ParaTed.
My first question...Do you ever lighten up?

FYI I do enjoy your discussions, even when I disagree with you.

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To me the comparison is accurate in the aspect of fascism. I certainly don't believe that Obama is going to start having people killed.
Many companies have gone bankrupt over the years. I did a search on them and found there are quite a few that are still around today after recovering. They didn't get a bailout. All the bailout has done is put a burden on future generations. We all own a part of GM now. I'm not holding my breath waiting for that dividend check.

Then why is he seizing private companies and dictating how they will run? He stole the company, gave part of it to his buddies in the UAW and gave the investors and bond holders the shaft.

There was a legal way for him to handle the problem at GM.. it's called Chapter 11. The same thing they are going through now. The only difference is Obama got his fascist, Marxist meathooks into it.

He uses the tactics of the Mafia, mixed with every other two bit dictator you can name.

Crime in the name of progress is still crime. If was illegal and Unconstitutional from the beginning. But I guess having Obama's butt in the big chair in the oval office is more important to you than either the law or the Consitution.

I think one of the reason that President Obama didn't allow GM to file chapter 11 is that he is trying to stop the downfall of a company that would effect the country even more than letting filing bankruptcy.

So why is he "allowing" Chapter 11 now? Because he can do it with full control of the proceedings... just like a dictator.

I felt that they could not resolve the company financial issues on their own so he felt it was necessary to encourage GM to file for bankruptcy,especially when the already received a good bit of government funding.

So what's the difference between Chapter 11 months ago and Chapter 11 now? The only difference is Obama got away with his fascist, mafia style theft.

Obama stole the private property of the investors and bond holders. If you applaud him stealing from them, please explain why I should care if he comes after your property next?

Give him time. Hitler wasn't a murderer in his first 100 days either. But he did seize control of the industries of Germany.

((I do admit to a modicum of good old fashioned rant here though).